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[chirp_users] No USB Port Error
by Glenn K0LNY 23 May '20

23 May '20

Hi, I just got a new used radio, a Kenwood TH-F6. So I plugged in the radio using a non-Kenwood cable and I went into "radio" and download from radio and selected my radio model and USB0 and I get the message: error no 2 cannot open tty/usb0 error cannot locate tty/USB0. or something similar. I have used this cable and that Ubuntu with Chirp in the past for my other radios, and other than different brands of radios, I have always been able to do this. I know a guy who has done this to this model using the Baofeng cable using a different software in Windows, not the Kenwood software, but one that they purchased. I don't recall the name, but I think it starts with an R. At any rate, I'd sooner buy a Kenwood cable than that other software and keep using Chirp. Hopefully I didn't get it mixed up with the Radioddity cable. I thought I had the right cable with the Radioddity when I sent it off. I don't know if they put the name of the associated radio on the cables, since I'm Blind. But any who, would this be an error for the wrong cable? Thanks. Glenn

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Re: [chirp_users] chirp_users Digest, Vol 137, Issue 18
by tommy 22 May '20

22 May '20

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[chirp_users] New Daily Build
by Build System 21 May '20

21 May '20

Greetings, A new daily build of CHIRP is available. This includes changes made directly to the tree yesterday, and may include additional features, bug fixes, and/or bugs. If you are interested in trying it, grab it from the following location: http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/daily-20200521 A list of the changes included in this build (since the last daily) follows: Changes for Build #622 [Jaroslav Škarvada <jskarvad(a)redhat.com>] Add support for IC-E90/IC-T90 Fixes #579 [Joe Milbourn <joe(a)milbourn.org.uk>] [AnyTone778] Initial, read and write, support for AnyTone 778UV, partially closes #4901 Probably also supports similar looking things, like the retevis RT95. Supports frequency, offset, name, power, duplex, CTCSS, and DTCS. Doesn't support any settings.

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Re: [chirp_users] chirp_users Digest, Vol 137, Issue 16
by Dave B 21 May '20

21 May '20

I think you need to visit the main Chirp website, and get the PPA details, then add that to your system. https://launchpad.net/~dansmith/+archive/ubuntu/chirp-snapshots Chirp Daily, is not distributed by Ubuntu, but by their own PPA. 73. Dave G0WBX. On 20/05/2020 20:00, chirp_users-request(a)intrepid.danplanet.com wrote: > Subject: [chirp_users] Ubuntu FF with PPA: Unable to locate package > chirp-daily? -- Created on and sent from a Unix like PC running and using free and open source software:

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[chirp_users] Pyenv and CHIRP
by D.J.J. Ring, Jr. 20 May '20

20 May '20

Hi CHIRPers, I was going to submit something about pyenv separately but I mentioned it in a post about Ubuntu current. The application pyenv which allows using specific versions with certain programs. I'm trying to get that very program working to allow me to use python 3.7 on a distro SLINT (Slackware) that only has python 2.7. I've gotten pyenv working nicely, but I'm having problems installing slpkg a new unofficial package installer. Haven't mastered yet, but I'm stubborn. I'm sure the devs know other means to keep CHIRP working but I just heard of this, it gives a particular program the python environment it needs and a shortcut with environmental settings can be put in ,profile file. 73 David N1EA

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[chirp_users] Baofeng T-57
by Richard Setford 20 May '20

20 May '20

Hi, I'm running Linux Mint 19.10 with CHIRP daily-20200516 and it would appear that my Baofeng T-57 isn't supported by CHIRP. Can this radio be added please or is there a workaround? Thanks, Rich

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[chirp_users] Using Python 2 and Python 3 in Linux
by D.J.J. Ring, Jr. 18 May '20

18 May '20

Various versions of Python can be used in Linux. These instructions were for Slackware, but I suppose they work well in other distributions. Install pyenv as root: 1. cd /root 2. curl -L https://github.com/pyenv/pyenv-installer/raw/master/bin/pyenv-installer | bash update your .bashrc (or create it if not exists) and add this: export PATH="$HOME/.pyenv/bin:$PATH" eval "$(pyenv init -)" eval "$(pyenv virtualenv-init -)" load the new .bashrc with source .bashrc now install the python version that you want like: pyenv install 3.7.2 (you can have multiple versions installed at the same time) (you can check for the available versions with: pyenv install --list) Switch to the new version with: pyenv global 3.7.2 and run slpkg. When you finish with it you can switch back to your original python with: pyenv global system And finaly check for the available python versions in your system with: pyenv versions (the first 'system' means the python that is installed by your system) For example this is from mine: root@lab:~# pyenv versions system 3.1.2 3.5.5 * 3.7.2 (set by /root/.pyenv/version) References: https://github.com/pyenv/pyenv It seems that pyenv only reports the python versions installed into it. My system python is: Python 2.7.17 73 David N1EA

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[chirp_users] New Daily Build
by Build System 16 May '20

16 May '20

Greetings, A new daily build of CHIRP is available. This includes changes made directly to the tree yesterday, and may include additional features, bug fixes, and/or bugs. If you are interested in trying it, grab it from the following location: http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/daily-20200516 A list of the changes included in this build (since the last daily) follows: Changes for Build #621 [Jim Unroe <rock.unroe(a)gmail.com>] [PX-777] Update Tuning Steps List for Puxing PX-777 This patch updates rf.valid_tuning_steps for the Puxing PX-777 to include 6.25 KHz and 12.5 KHz. #7849

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Re: [chirp_users] chirp_users Digest, Vol 137, Issue 13
by Gary Nobody 16 May '20

16 May '20

adding frequencies with chirp ________________________________ From: chirp_users-bounces(a)intrepid.danplanet.com <chirp_users-bounces(a)intrepid.danplanet.com> on behalf of chirp_users-request(a)intrepid.danplanet.com <chirp_users-request(a)intrepid.danplanet.com> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 2:00 PM To: chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com <chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com> Subject: chirp_users Digest, Vol 137, Issue 13 Send chirp_users mailing list submissions to chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to chirp_users-request(a)intrepid.danplanet.com You can reach the person managing the list at chirp_users-owner(a)intrepid.danplanet.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of chirp_users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: chirp_users Digest, Vol 137, Issue 12 (IT1 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR) 2. Re: Yaesu FT-8500 (W Paul Mills) 3. Re: Yaesu FT-8500 (Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF) 4. Re: Yaesu FT-8500 (Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 15:31:13 -0400 From: "IT1 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR" <stuart.tener(a)bh90210.net> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] chirp_users Digest, Vol 137, Issue 12 To: chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com Message-ID: <20200514153113.Horde.-Zn2TpRTN4d2IcjKv7IKjge(a)mgtmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Nolan, Indeed you might be thinking that you are reminding people of some obvious piece of wisdom to conduct a search for old articles, but indeed this is a fools errand (unless you are suggesting such messages were very recent in the last 30 to 45 days, which I did not get the impression you were). Why you ask? Python is still under heavy development and unless these older messages specifically substantiate what the exact version of Python existed at the time the messages were written and what specific Python version they were referring to, their content and meaning may be entirely inapplicable now as perhaps the technical concerns at issue at the time may well have been overcome my changes to the Python language or been amended in the current instantiation of the Chirp source code base. In either event, we would not gain such insights from old messages. Thus, obviously asking what the issues are now is a very different question from "what were the issues then?", a question I did not ask and therefore had no need to research the answer for. Secondly, you can't agree with me that "Python 3 would be nice to have", because I did not say that. I meant to assert in the most compelling manner that I could articulate that the idea of moving to Python3 is an imperative and to not do so terribly disadvantages users and retards the security of a system they are expected to continue to keep Python2 running upon. Let me clear here, I appreciate all the hard work that Dan, et alia, have put into Chirp and mean in no way to diminish the excellence of that work or to suggest any lack of appreciation. Moreover, if the argument is "We can't move to Python2 because its a part time project and nobody has time." I understand and accept that fully. However, that in no way changes the fact that distributing software in a now virtually unsupported language instigates a very high risk for the users of that software in such a case. Moving to Python3 is something that must happen, just as many programs written for Amateur Radio are no longer used because they ran on TRS-80s and Apple IIs, and we don't use that technology anymore. Chirp will eventually move in such a direction if it is not ported to Python3 soon (or some other secure language) as people that care about the security posture of their systems will be loath to remain to keep an environment running that is not longer be actively patched with security patches and having bugs remediated there within. 73, Stuart, N3GWG ?

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[chirp_users] Yaesu FT-8500
by Claes Harde 15 May '20

15 May '20

Hello, I don’t see my radio listed. Is there another “close enough” that I could use? Thanks, Max

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Re: [chirp_users] chirp_users Digest, Vol 137, Issue 12
by IT1 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR 14 May '20

14 May '20

Nolan, Indeed you might be thinking that you are reminding people of some obvious piece of wisdom to conduct a search for old articles, but indeed this is a fools errand (unless you are suggesting such messages were very recent in the last 30 to 45 days, which I did not get the impression you were). Why you ask? Python is still under heavy development and unless these older messages specifically substantiate what the exact version of Python existed at the time the messages were written and what specific Python version they were referring to, their content and meaning may be entirely inapplicable now as perhaps the technical concerns at issue at the time may well have been overcome my changes to the Python language or been amended in the current instantiation of the Chirp source code base. In either event, we would not gain such insights from old messages. Thus, obviously asking what the issues are now is a very different question from "what were the issues then?", a question I did not ask and therefore had no need to research the answer for. Secondly, you can't agree with me that "Python 3 would be nice to have", because I did not say that. I meant to assert in the most compelling manner that I could articulate that the idea of moving to Python3 is an imperative and to not do so terribly disadvantages users and retards the security of a system they are expected to continue to keep Python2 running upon. Let me clear here, I appreciate all the hard work that Dan, et alia, have put into Chirp and mean in no way to diminish the excellence of that work or to suggest any lack of appreciation. Moreover, if the argument is "We can't move to Python2 because its a part time project and nobody has time." I understand and accept that fully. However, that in no way changes the fact that distributing software in a now virtually unsupported language instigates a very high risk for the users of that software in such a case. Moving to Python3 is something that must happen, just as many programs written for Amateur Radio are no longer used because they ran on TRS-80s and Apple IIs, and we don't use that technology anymore. Chirp will eventually move in such a direction if it is not ported to Python3 soon (or some other secure language) as people that care about the security posture of their systems will be loath to remain to keep an environment running that is not longer be actively patched with security patches and having bugs remediated there within. 73, Stuart, N3GWG

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[chirp_users] Upload stalls with Mac OS10.14 Mojave
by glenmac 14 May '20

14 May '20

I posted this last month and tried some new things. but, still stuck. Previously, used a 2018 15 inch MacBook Pro with OS10.14.6 (Mojave) that required a Kensington USB-C dock for the IOGear USB-Serial adapter. Uploading to an iCom 2200H stalled, forcing a reboot to get Chirp running again. Resurrected a mid-2012 MBP with Mojave, this one has 'real' USB ports, eliminating the Kensington dock. Installed the IOGear driver and KK7DS Python runtime. About Chirp: Chirp daily-20200430, GTK 2.24.32, PYGTK 2.24, Python 2.27,10. Kextstat: com.ATEN.driver.PL2303 (1.6.0) Download from Radio: dev/cu.UC-232AC/iCom/IC-2200H Still stalls when I immediately attempt to upload back to the 2200H, which displays “CL IN”. Force Quit on Chirp leaves it unable to re-open until I reboot. the IOGear driver and convertor worked under Win 7 with the iCom software. Any suggestions? Other recommended USB-serial converters? TIA, Glen KE7HIM

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[chirp_users] chirp flatpak (In need of a few brave souls)
by Richard Shaw 14 May '20

14 May '20

Well thanks to the help and pointers here I was able to navigate the truly atrocious documentation for flatpaks and was able to create a bundle. I need a few brave souls to test: https://hobbes1069.fedorapeople.org/chirp-20200430.flatpak I put the version in the name, so be careful, if I update it it, you could install more than one version. I still have yet to learn how you update flatpak packages. I went through and did a "cleanup" of a lot of files we don't actually need. The original version was ~140MB... It should be practical to get it listed on flathub. The archives are called "daily" but really it's whenever something significant has been committed and the date is the version. Let me know if it works fine or needs some fixes. Thanks, Richard KF5OIM

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Re: [chirp_users] Using Chirp On A Mac
by IT1 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR 13 May '20

13 May '20

Tycen, You state: "You can use Chirp on Mac if you are pre-Catalina (due to python2/python3)." I am very confused by the comments you make here regarding the usage of Chirp within a macOS environment that is based on Catalina. I just upgraded to Catalina and would wonder why Chirp is not capable of running there? I am dumbfounded by what you could possibly be implying by this (that no steps have been taken to migrate Chirp to Python3). Python2's deprecation was enunciated in 2008 and scheduled for 2015, it is 2020 now and we are just getting to it being taken out of service. I am not familiar with Chirp's internal programming constraints, but I cannot even begin to imagine that over all these years the forthcoming end of support for Python2 was outright ignored by Dan. I've met Dan several times, he is an extremely bright individual, what you are implying makes absolutely no sense. If this is true, then within one year Mac users will done with Chirp since by then (for security reasons) we will have all upgraded to Catalina. Moreover, Brew does provide Python2 I believe (granted, I will not run it after this year, also for security reasons absent future updates). But, can you please disambiguate as to what you mean by "due to Python2/Python3"? 73, Stuart, N3GWG Very Respectfully, Stuart B. Tener Computer Scientist / FCC Licensed Radio Operator -- IT1 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR, N3GWG (Extra), MROP Las Vegas, NV / Philadelphia, PA / Beverly Hills, CA (310) 358-0202 Mobile Phone (215) 338-6005 Google Voice

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[chirp_users] Using Chirp On A Mac
by Glenn K0LNY 13 May '20

13 May '20

Hi, Someone just asked me about using Chirp on a Mac, and if it can be used in the Mac CLI. Thanks. Glenn

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[chirp_users] Using Chirp to program the Yaesu FT-50r
by Richard K Parrish 13 May '20

13 May '20

Trying to Program a Yaesu FT-50r. I follow the instructions to hold the mon key and press the PTT 3 times. Unit goes into Clone mode, Send, then gets a CERR Any suggestions? Richard K. Parrish, NREMT-P, PC Course Administrator, Woodstock FD, Com 5 35 Park Drive Woodstock, NY 12498 845-679-6504 Ritchkp(a)gmail.com

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[chirp_users] How to read Kenwood TH-D7?
by Ernesto Xload 12 May '20

12 May '20

Hello, How can I read Kenwood my TH-D7 fron CHIRP? Best regards

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Re: [chirp_users] Using Chirp to program the Yaesu FT-50r
by Richard Gordon 12 May '20

12 May '20

I have an FT-50R and I am using the latest CHIRP release, CHIRP daily-20200430. There is no need to press the PTT 3 times. The instructions for the FT-50R are to hold the PTT and Knob while powering on the radio. (The knob is on the top of the radio and must be pressed down.) To clarify, press the PTT and the knob and then press the orange power button. All three must be pressed at the same time. The radio's display will read 'CLON'. From CHIRP select 'Radio' and 'Download from Radio' and then your port, 'Yaesu' and 'FT-50'. Click OK. The instructions will pop-up if enabled. Click OK. Once CHIRP's cloning dialog for the FT-50R is present on the screen, press the PTT once and the radio should clone. I hope this helps. Rich Gordon k0eb

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[chirp_users] CHIRP issue with OS X Catalina
by Jean-Paul Louis 10 May '20

10 May '20

Hello all Catalina users, Has anyone found why CHIRP now refuse to read the Desktop? I always had my CHIRP files in a folder in the Desktop since I got the MacBook, Circa 2014. But since OS X Catalina, I get an error popup telling me that CHIRP cannot read the Desktop and folders below. It seems to be true for almost anywhere but my Home directory. but this does not seems to be a safe practice as Desktop is a folder in the home directory. It is the same with the folder “Documents”. Is that a normal CHIRP behavior? The only way I could make it works is to move the CHIRP folder from the Desktop to the Home directory. Why the CHIRP folder cannot be in the Desktop or in Documents? I am at a loss here. Jean-Paul N1JPL

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[chirp_users] Grumpy old man.
by Dennis Wage 09 May '20

09 May '20

I humbly wish and believe all posts about installing chirp on anything besides windows and Mac OS should start their own list. I will unsubscribe soon if I see many more posts about installing chirp on Linux. If you try to use any distro of linux as your OS of choice you better be savvy enough, like my son Chris, to solve these issues on your own. GET OFF MY LAWN!!! -- Dennis M. Wage (iPhone) 245 Corum Hill Road Castalian Springs, TN 37031 (615) 310-4242 Cell (615) 562-5128 Home http://hammondb3organ.net http://overdubs.net

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Re: [chirp_users] Grumpy old man.
by John Schubert 09 May '20

09 May '20

On 5/8/20 12:00 PM, chirp_users-request(a)intrepid.danplanet.com wrote: > Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 09:19:10 -0500 > From: Dennis Wage<dwage(a)dwage.com> > Subject: [chirp_users] Grumpy old man. > To: Discussion of CHIRP<chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com> > Message-ID: > <CAE1d061Btm5df9Ad5Pg9Ndj1BpuEqaBTygn5TVMsuke3HSp=Bg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I humbly wish and believe all posts about installing chirp on anything > besides windows and Mac OS should start their own list. > > I will unsubscribe soon if I see many more posts about installing chirp on > Linux. > > If you try to use any distro of linux as your OS of choice you better be > savvy enough, like my son Chris, to solve these issues on your own. > > GET OFF MY LAWN!!! > > > -- Dennis M. Wage (iPhone) 245 Corum Hill Road Castalian Springs, TN 37031 (615) > 310-4242 Cell (615) 562-5128 Home http://hammondb3organ.net http://overdubs.net -- reality check... macOS is based on BSD Linux... 73, John

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[chirp_users] Python2-serial
by Phil 08 May '20

08 May '20

I recently upgraded to Kubuntu 20.04. I have installed Python2 but I'm unable to find python2-serial. Any ideas? -- Regards, Phil

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[chirp_users] PC
by Dennis Wage 06 May '20

06 May '20

How do I use chirp? 😜 -- Dennis M. Wage (iPhone) 245 Corum Hill Road Castalian Springs, TN 37031 (615) 310-4242 Cell (615) 562-5128 Home http://hammondb3organ.net http://overdubs.net

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Re: [chirp_users] PC
by Edwin W Luke 05 May '20

05 May '20

Ha ha! I got it. KL7IXX On May 5, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Dennis Wage <dwage(a)dwage.com> wrote: OK nobody got my joke. I should have known better. Comedy and Hams do not work. Dennis M. Wage (W9BOQ) 245 Corum Hill Road Castalian Springs, TN 37031 (615) 310-4242 Cell (615) 562-5128 Home http://hammondb3organ.net http://overdubs.net On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 11:09 AM John La <JohnLa(a)usa.net> wrote: This link may assist. Section 6 has Guides, definitions and examples. www.Miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php From: chirp_users-bounces(a)intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Wage Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 9:21 AM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: [chirp_users] PC How do I use chirp? 😜 -- Dennis M. Wage (iPhone) 245 Corum Hill Road Castalian Springs, TN 37031 (615) 310-4242 Cell (615) 562-5128 Home http://hammondb3organ.net http://overdubs.net _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Dennis Wage at dwage(a)dwage.com To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe(a)intrepid.danplanet.com

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[chirp_users] Using Chirp to program the Yaesu FT-50r
by Richard K Parrish 02 May '20

02 May '20

Follow the instructions to hold the mon key and press the PTT 3 times. Unit goes into Clone mode, then get a CERR Any suggestions? Richard K. Parrish, NREMT-P, PC Course Administrator, Woodstock FD, Com 5 35 Park Drive Woodstock, NY 12498 845-679-6504 Ritchkp(a)gmail.com From: chirp_users-bounces(a)intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Richard Shaw Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 10:19 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] chirp flatpak (In need of a few brave souls) On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 9:09 PM <goldstar611(a)hotmail.com> wrote: Richard, I did a live boot with Ubuntu 20.04, apt installed flatpak, added the runtime and installed your flatpak file. Success! I had Chirp running on Ubuntu 20.04 in under 10 minutes! And I was able to download and upload to several of the older Baofeng 888 radios and a Radioddity GA-2S (same driver in chirp). Good deal! Some notes on your current flatpak: - Chirp needs network access for the online repeater database and to check for updates Added, for the next version. - Chirp complains (when launched from the console) that 2 drivers need python-future package Ok, I'll add that with pip. I did some more modifications to my flatpak file and here's what I found: - pygtk fails to compile with gnome Sdk version 3.36 but compiles on 3.26. gnome Sdk 3.30 is unsupported for some reason. - I'll look into how to get things working on a newer version I'm using 3.28 as the current target. I'm not sure I really need to be using the gnome sdk over the regular freedesktop sdk but I inherited that with the json file. - Nolan's repo has a lot of stuff mine is missing. - Like a desktop shortcut Mine should show a desktop shortcut. It worked with a local repo install. Thanks, Richard

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[chirp_users] Only 99 channels with Kenwood TM-281A
by AS 02 May '20

02 May '20

Only 99 channels with Kenwood TM-281A Hi All: Been trying to use CHIRP to program my Kenwood TM-281A. This radio is specced for 200 channels but, according to literature, reverts to 100 channels when names are used. When I download from the radio it only allows me 100 channels (0-99), even when I import a CSV file with the names deleted. When I click on the memory range I am unable to go past 99 (upward arrow greyed out). Is there a way to open up the memory to 200 channels? Thanks!

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[chirp_users] Fedora COPR for Fedora 32 and EL 8
by Richard Shaw 02 May '20

02 May '20

As a stop gap measure I have created a COPR for chirp with the missing python2 requirements. https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/hobbes1069/chirp/ I have built chirp for Fedora 32, Fedora Rawhide, and EL 8. One of the dependencies is libxml2 which is a C library with python bindings. Hopefully it doesn't cause any issues with the Fedora version but I'll have to stay on top of any updates to the Fedora version. This a very much a less than ideal situation but I haven't found a better one. I tried setting up a flatpak but gave up. The documentation is too poor and trying to write JSON is an exercise in frustration. Thanks, Richard KF5OIM

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[chirp_users] can't upload to 2200H with Mac
by glenmac 30 Apr '20

30 Apr '20

Hello, thanks for creating a cross platform program! But, I’m having a consistent problem programming my iCom 2200H. System: 2018 MacBookPro, OS 10.14.6 IOGear USB to Serial converter GUC232A, driver ATEN ls /dev/cu* 4/26/20 results /dev/cu.Bluetooth-Incoming-Port /dev/cu.UC-232AC /dev/cu.MacDonaldsiPhone-Wirele Updated the IOGear converter driver from 1.6.0 to 1.6.2 kextstat: com.aten.driver.PL2303 (1.6.0) Fresh install of KK7DS Python Updated to Chirp-unified-daily-20200430 Chirp: Selecting UC232A for com port downloading, then immediately uploading starts the clone then stalls at 1/3 of progress bar. Hitting cancel in the Clone Progress dialog generates the Beach Ball of Death until force quit. After force quit, Chirp won’t restart unless I reboot. The icon just bounces in the dock. installed the Prolific driver, with still same issue. The 2200H is reading “CL IN” Any suggestions to resolve this? Thanks, Glen MacDonald KE7HIM

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[chirp_users] Retevis RT24 download problem
by Marc Eberhard 30 Apr '20

30 Apr '20

Hi, I'm trying to use Chirp with an RT24 and I'm getting the following error when trying to download the radio memory: ERROR: ---------------------------- ERROR: -- Exception: -- ERROR: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/chirp/ui/clone.py", line 256, in run self.__radio.sync_in() File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/chirp/drivers/radioddity_r2.py", line 364, in sync_in data = do_download(self) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/chirp/drivers/radioddity_r2.py", line 270, in do_download block = _r2_read_block(radio, addr, radio._block_size) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/chirp/drivers/radioddity_r2.py", line 223, in _r2_read_block raise errors.RadioError("Failed to read block at %04x" % block_addr) RadioError: Failed to read block at 0008 ERROR: ---------------- ERROR: Clone failed: Failed to read block at 0008 ERROR: --- Exception Dialog: Failed to read block at 0008 --- ERROR: None It's not always block 0008, sometimes others. Sounds like a timing issue that hits often enough to make a download impossible, but not always at the exact same block. The cable is: [ 590.992784] usb 1-11: new full-speed USB device number 11 using xhci_hcd [ 591.133874] usb 1-11: New USB device found, idVendor=067b, idProduct=2303, bcdDevice= 3.00 [ 591.133880] usb 1-11: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 [ 591.133884] usb 1-11: Product: USB-Serial Controller [ 591.133887] usb 1-11: Manufacturer: Prolific Technology Inc. [ 591.136816] pl2303 1-11:1.0: pl2303 converter detected [ 591.138128] usb 1-11: pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0 I bought the cable from eBay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-Programming-Cable-for-Retevis-H777-RT22-RT24… As far as I can tell it looks genuine. The PC is a current Arch Linux system. Reading the docs suggests that the cable might be to blame. Before contacting the seller about it I just wanted to check if this is the expected failure mode for the cable or would it not work at all if it were using a copycat pl2303? If this is a timing issue can I slow Chirp down somehow to see if that makes a difference? E.g. let it sleep for a bit between downloading blocks to give the radio/cable some time to recover? All suggestions and comments welcome! Thanks, Marc

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[chirp_users] New Daily Build
by Build System 30 Apr '20

30 Apr '20

Greetings, A new daily build of CHIRP is available. This includes changes made directly to the tree yesterday, and may include additional features, bug fixes, and/or bugs. If you are interested in trying it, grab it from the following location: http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/daily-20200430 A list of the changes included in this build (since the last daily) follows: Changes for Build #620 [Dan Smith <dsmith(a)danplanet.com>] Add Radioddity GA-510 driver Fixes #7791

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[chirp_users] Python 3
by Tate KA7O 30 Apr '20

30 Apr '20

Being eager can bite ya in the, uh, yea.... So, like a dummy, without reading up first, I updated my primary workstation to Fedora 32. Now that Python2 isn't even a mainline option in F-32, I'm eager for a Python3 variant of Chrip. I found this: https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Linux_Python3 Doesn't work here. Seems all the drivers have multiple syntax errors for Python3. I know it's a work in progress - and one day it'll be available - any rumors or rumors of news in the mean time? Thanks! -- Casper ARC - W7VNJ www.casperarc.net <http://casperarc.net> <http://wyominghamcon.org>

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[chirp_users] auhage@rogers.com
by Tim Auhage 30 Apr '20

30 Apr '20

Sent from my iPad

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Re: [chirp_users] Import/Export and CROSS
by NE1EE - Rich 29 Apr '20

29 Apr '20

On 2020-04-29 06:12:+0200, you wrote: >Don, > >Then do like I do. My UV-5R image is my master image. I have several >different brands and models of radios here. Whenever I program a radio >I just "import" the UV-5R's *.img file into the tab that I am >programming. It works exactly the same as importing a CSV file (you >just choose *.img instead of *.csv) except, it handles more settings >(such as split DCS codes, Cross Mode settings and "Other" settings >like BCL). > >Jim KC9HI I had forgotten this! Very useful. I immediately put it at the top of the notes that I keep for Chirp. And I wondered about chirp, CHIRP, Chirp...is there a "name" for this app, or is it whatever we happen to type. It's not consequential...I just wondered if CHIRP is an acronym for something. Rich

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[chirp_users] Import/Export and CROSS
by Don Goodrich 29 Apr '20

29 Apr '20

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[chirp_users] Annother request for AnyTone AT-5888UV III
by Philip Brown 29 Apr '20

29 Apr '20

I would also like to request support for the AnyTone AT-5888UV III, the tri-band version of the AT-5888UV. In response to Bernhard Hailer's question, After I select the com port, vendor, and model, I get the dialog warning of an experimental driver. When I click I yes immediately get the unsupported model error. Feel free to email me directly with any questions. 73,Phil

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[chirp_users] Google Chrome?
by Ken & Sarita Strawn 28 Apr '20

28 Apr '20

How to download CHIRP to the Google Chrome OS ? Thanx!

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Re: [chirp_users] chirp_users Digest, Vol 136, Issue 15
by Frank Kohn 23 Apr '20

23 Apr '20

For a strictly analog UHF / VHF hand-held, I would highly recommend the Yaesu FT-60R. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles of other Yaesu handi-talkies, but the radio is compact, sounds great, receives 1000% better than the Baofeng I own and is only $159 . > 9. Re: Recommendations on "under $400.00" hand-held (David Ranch) > 10. Re: Recommendations on "under $400.00" hand-held (Bill KA8VIT) > > _______________________________________________ > chirp_users mailing list > chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users > To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe(a)intrepid.danplanet.com

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Re: [chirp_users] Recommendations on "under $400.00" hand-held
by NE1EE - Rich 23 Apr '20

23 Apr '20

On 2020-04-21 23:12:+0300, you wrote: >I am still using my motorola maxtrac that was manufactured in the 70's!! There is something to be said for not upgrading unless you want to, and then there is the attraction of some of the newer inexpensive gear. But I still use my Radio Shack HTX-202 (1990s?). Bought it new, and don't regret it. RS made some good, if unattractive, gear. It is a solid performer, but old enough that it does not play well with the new radio management software. I still use it for dedicated ops, like and APRS & up/downlink for high alt balloon missions. That way I don't tie up another radio for that, and I can count on its solid signal to control the instrument package @ 35km. But I admit that my BaoFeng are great for supporting local volunteer ops, especially when I can exchange an event-specific chirp image with the group, and we can all be on the same page. I just cart along my laptop, and sync all our radios. I still use my TS-830 for HF, and though I know it doesn't have all the DSP bells and whistles, it sure works nicely on phone and CW.

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[chirp_users] Recommendations on "under $400.00" hand-held
by Bret Goodfellow 23 Apr '20

23 Apr '20

Hello Friends, I am using an 8 year old radio, Wouxun KG-UV3D. It’s worked well for my limited use. I’m looking to get a new hand-held radio under $400. Any suggestions on radios not made in China? Suggestions on Chinese radios? Thanks for your expertise! Deuce

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[chirp_users] John Barker-AnyTone 5888UV-Change Squelch
by John Barker 23 Apr '20

23 Apr '20

This is my first post so I hope I'm doing it right. Can you change the squelch on the above radio using CHIRP? Thanks John KG7LUB

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[chirp_users] CHIRP on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and WINE
by Tom Consodine 21 Apr '20

21 Apr '20

Ubuntu 20.04 LTS will be released in a few days. I installed the beta version of Xubuntu to see how it works. Ubuntu has dropped Python 3 and the old repo version of CHIRP. The chirp-daily Linux tarball will no longer run locally because of Python 2 no longer being available. A lot of people using CHIRP on Linux are not going to be happy. I installed the Windows version of chirp-daily on WINE 5.0 and it appears to work but the GUI theme looks terrible and the memory editor column order isn't saved if I rearrange the columns. Are there any other Windows DLLs or components that should be installed with winetricks to improve CHIRP's appearance or functionality when running it under WINE? Tom ND5Y

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[chirp_users] ICOM ID-1 Support
by IT1 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR 20 Apr '20

20 Apr '20

Dan, et alia: I have an ICOM ID-1 radio and the software that ICOM provides for it is "operating software" not programming software. Does Chirp support the ID-1 and if not, how difficult would it be to add support? I can send in a personality file for the ID-1 if that helps any. Thanks in advance and stay healthy. 73, Stuart, N3GWG

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[chirp_users] Python 3 status?
by Richard Shaw 18 Apr '20

18 Apr '20

I just wanted to check and see what the status is of the Python 3 branch. I see there have been some commits but not for a couple of months. Is the py3 branch usable yet? Fedora 32 is in beta so that means Fedora 31 (the last release containing chirp) only has about 5 months left before going EOL. Thanks, Richard KF5OIM

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[chirp_users] Bug 1113 Icom 2100H error reported
by Peter 18 Apr '20

18 Apr '20

Re Bug # 1113 I too have an Icom 2100H 2m transceiver and I also get the message "Unexpected response from radio" when I try to upload/download from the radio. This is under Linux Mint with the most recent version of Chirp. I set the environment variable DEBUG=30, try Chirp and get the error. The laptop is dual boot, Linux Mint and Windows7. Last lines of debug.log when Chirp (Linux Mint)was tried to 'detect' radio: ... [2020-04-17 13:23:02,391] chirp.ui.reporting - DEBUG: Server reports version daily-20200409 is latest [2020-04-17 13:23:51,102] chirp.ui.reporting - DEBUG: Reporting exception [2020-04-17 13:23:51,103] chirp.ui.inputdialog - ERROR: --- Exception Dialog: 'Serial' object has no attribute 'get_payload' --- [2020-04-17 13:23:51,105] chirp.ui.inputdialog - ERROR: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/chirp/ui/clone.py", line 175, in run cs.radio_class = detect.DETECT_FUNCTIONS[vendor](cs.port) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/chirp/detect.py", line 76, in detect_icom_radio result = _detect_icom_radio(ser) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/chirp/detect.py", line 43, in _detect_icom_radio md = icf.get_model_data(ser) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/chirp/drivers/icf.py", line 140, in get_model_data send_clone_frame(radio, 0xe0, mdata, raw=True) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/chirp/drivers/icf.py", line 174, in send_clone_frame payload = radio.get_payload(data, raw, checksum) AttributeError: 'Serial' object has no attribute 'get_payload' [2020-04-17 13:23:51,107] chirp.ui.inputdialog - ERROR: ---------------------------- So then I retry, putting in the values for the port ttyUSB0, choose the vendor as Icom and model 2100 and when I click clone from radio, I get this error report: last lines of debug file [2020-04-17 13:27:51,235] chirp.ui.mainapp - INFO: Skipping existing stock config [2020-04-17 13:27:51,238] chirp.ui.reporting - DEBUG: Checking for updates [2020-04-17 13:27:51,483] chirp.ui.reporting - DEBUG: Server reports version daily-20200409 is latest [2020-04-17 13:28:02,317] chirp.ui.mainapp - DEBUG: User selected Icom IC-2100H on port /dev/ttyUSB0 [2020-04-17 13:28:02,324] chirp.ui.clone - DEBUG: Clone thread started [2020-04-17 13:28:02,578] chirp.ui.reporting - DEBUG: Reporting exception [2020-04-17 13:28:02,579] chirp.ui.common - ERROR: -- Exception: -- [2020-04-17 13:28:02,581] chirp.ui.common - ERROR: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/chirp/ui/clone.py", line 256, in run self.__radio.sync_in() File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/chirp/drivers/icf.py", line 657, in sync_in self._mmap = clone_from_radio(self) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/chirp/drivers/icf.py", line 318, in clone_from_radio raise errors.RadioError("Failed to communicate with the radio: %s" % e) RadioError: Failed to communicate with the radio: Unexpected response from radio [2020-04-17 13:28:02,581] chirp.ui.common - ERROR: ---------------- [2020-04-17 13:28:02,581] chirp.ui.clone - ERROR: Clone failed: Failed to communicate with the radio: Unexpected response from radio [2020-04-17 13:28:02,587] chirp.ui.clone - DEBUG: Clone thread ended [2020-04-17 13:28:02,598] chirp.ui.reporting - DEBUG: Reporting model usage: Icom_IC-2100H,download,True [2020-04-17 13:28:02,612] chirp.ui.inputdialog - ERROR: --- Exception Dialog: Failed to communicate with the radio: Unexpected response from radio --- [2020-04-17 13:28:02,613] chirp.ui.inputdialog - ERROR: None [2020-04-17 13:28:02,614] chirp.ui.inputdialog - ERROR: ---------------------------- [2020-04-17 13:28:02,614] chirp.ui.reporting - DEBUG: Reporting exception So, then I reboot into Windows7, no change in cable or usb port, and it all works! I prefer to work in Linux so any suggestions would be welcome! Peter, VE3BBN -- Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein

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[chirp_users] Mac Question
by ID_Bill Bill 11 Apr '20

11 Apr '20

I have a Mac running Catalina 10.15.3 Will CHIRP run on this OS? I believe it's 64 bit. Thanks, Bill

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[chirp_users] Install issues
by w4rss＠radioclub.org 10 Apr '20

10 Apr '20

I'm having issues installing the repository for Chirp in Ubuntu. I just installed the newest version of Ubuntu and then tried to add the Chirp repository to it. Here is the output from the terminal: More info: https://launchpad.net/~dansmith/+archive/ubuntu/chirp-snapshots Press [ENTER] to continue or Ctrl-c to cancel adding it. Hit:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal InRelease Hit:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates InRelease Hit:3 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-security InRelease Hit:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-backports InRelease Ign:5 http://ppa.launchpad.net/dansmith/chirp-snapshots/ubuntu focal InRelease Err:6 http://ppa.launchpad.net/dansmith/chirp-snapshots/ubuntu focal Release 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.95.83 80] Reading package lists... Done E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/dansmith/chirp-snapshots/ubuntu focal Release' does not have a Release file. N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. Any suggestions how to overcome this? The manpage is not really very helpful. Thanks Dick W4RSS

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[chirp_users] Chirp will not start in Fedora 31 nor 32 beta. Works fine in 30
by Fred 10 Apr '20

10 Apr '20

Since I am mostly confined to home due to the restrictions caused by the virus outbreak, I decided to up grade my Linux system from Fedora 30 to the current version which is Fedora 31. After the upgrade, Chirp and a Solitary game which is written in Python no longer worked so I upgraded to the new beta version Fedora 32. This morning, the developers released an update which included many Python changes which fixed the Solitary game but sadly, not Chirp. So, maybe the Chirp developers will have the answer. Here is the output of starting the 20200227 Chirp version with -v: [fred@m5a97r2 chirp-daily]$ ./chirpw -v Traceback (most recent call last): File "./chirpw", line 20, in <module> from chirp import chirp_common File "/home/fred/chirp/chirp-daily/chirp/chirp_common.py", line 979 except errors.InvalidDataError, e: ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax [fred@m5a97r2 chirp-daily]$ The ~/.chirp/debug.log entries are dated 2020-03-14 which are from a Chirp run before upgrading from Fedora 30. A bit of an aside: Is this a Python issue in Chirp or a missing Python 2 file in Fedora 32? I notice that when the command "dnf list --installed | grep python" there is a python3.x86_64, but the python2 file is named python27.x86_64. There is no python2.x86_64 file but there is in Fedora 30 a file python2.x86_64. Although, the which command shows both a /usr/bin/python3 and a /usr/bin/python2 file exist in Fedora 32. There are several link files in /usr/bin/ with python names that seem to be new additions and probably sort all that out though. Thanks for the help. Fred

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[chirp_users] New Daily Build
by Build System 09 Apr '20

09 Apr '20

Greetings, A new daily build of CHIRP is available. This includes changes made directly to the tree yesterday, and may include additional features, bug fixes, and/or bugs. If you are interested in trying it, grab it from the following location: http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/daily-20200409 A list of the changes included in this build (since the last daily) follows: Changes for Build #618 [Tony F <goldstar611(a)hotmail.com>] [h777] Fix some settings not taking effect Fixes #7653 Does not cause regression in #7067 Changes for Build #619 [Dan Smith <dsmith(a)danplanet.com>] [tk3180] Fix DCS squelch encoding The value we set in memory was slightly different from how the OEM software writes it, although the OEM software decodes it properly. With our encoding the radio would not actually transmit the DCS code, rendering it ineffective. Fixes #7777

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Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng UV-5RA...lost first words
by Bill Riess 04 Apr '20

04 Apr '20

I didn't see if the original message said this was via a repeater or direct. If via a repeater, realize some repeaters have a slight delay, especially if the carrier is allowed to drop between transmissions and/or it uses PL/DPL. Some dual mode repeaters (analog/digital) can exhibit this behavior. Also, at least one repeater in my area has a delay (1-2 seconds) on the first transmission in a conversation to discourage "pinging" the repeater. Bill Riess KW9WR(a)ARRL.net AKA: (Bill(a)Riess.us) -----Original Message----- From: chirp_users-bounces(a)intrepid.danplanet.com <chirp_users-bounces(a)intrepid.danplanet.com> On Behalf Of chirp_users-request(a)intrepid.danplanet.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 14:00 PM To: chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: chirp_users Digest, Vol 136, Issue 1 Send chirp_users mailing list submissions to chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to chirp_users-request(a)intrepid.danplanet.com You can reach the person managing the list at chirp_users-owner(a)intrepid.danplanet.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of chirp_users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Baofeng UV-5RA...lost first words (Bill Card) 2. Re: Baofeng UV-5RA...lost first words (Ray Hutchinson) 3. Re: Replying to the list with a new (Dennis Wage) 4. Re: Replying to the list with a new (W Paul Mills) 5. Re: Replying to the list with a new (David) 6. Re: Replying to the list with a new (D.J.J. Ring, Jr.) 7. email / forum etiquette (NE1EE - Rich) 8. Re: email / forum etiquette (Richard Shaw) 9. Re: email / forum etiquette (NE1EE - Rich) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 12:31:42 -0700 From: Bill Card <willardscard(a)gmail.com> Subject: [chirp_users] Baofeng UV-5RA...lost first words To: Post to Chirp Mailing List <chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com> Message-ID: <CADT+LLuCbHczz1Bf67nK2Tj7xOYT3xzZszfCXOL8heJc4-2MtQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" This is relating to the discussion about... >> "I am using a UV-5RA and it has about a sec delay before I hear the other person talk is this normal or is there a setting someplace that I can change? A real pain as it cuts off the other persons one or 2 first words." I've followed the discussion but haven't seen anyone mention that, if the other person in your communication is using VOX, you'll lose the first few words of his/her transmission. When I used to use it with CBs on motorcycles, we had to blow into the mic, wait a second, then transmit to avoid loss of the first few words. So it might not be your radio at all. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://intrepid.danplanet.com/pipermail/chirp_users/attachments/20200331/8a… ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 19:55:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Ray Hutchinson <rdhutch(a)pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng UV-5RA...lost first words To: Post to Chirp Mailing List <chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com> Message-ID: <775894566.1962839.1585684529781(a)mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Another thought.? If this phenomenon of missing the first couple of words happens when communication with a paticular individual, then perhaps that individual is "Quick Keying", or not fully engaging the PTT on their radio before speaking.? If this seems to be the case, encourage them to consciously be sure they're pressing the PTT and pausing slightly before speaking.? This is often a problem with newer or inexperienced operators in the Ham world 73 de Ray, AE6H, WQXK637 On Tuesday, March 31, 2020, 12:33:37 PM PDT, Bill Card <willardscard(a)gmail.com> wrote: This is relating to the discussion about... >> "I am using a UV-5RA and it has about a sec delay before I hear the other person talk is this normal or is there a setting someplace that I can change? A real pain as it cuts off the other persons one or 2 first words." I've followed the discussion but haven't seen anyone mention that, if the other person in your communication is using VOX, you'll lose the first few words of his/her transmission. When I used to use it with CBs on motorcycles, we had to blow into the mic, wait a second, then transmit to avoid loss of the first few words. So it might not be your radio at all._______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Ray at rdhutch(a)pacbell.net To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe(a)intrepid.danplanet.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://intrepid.danplanet.com/pipermail/chirp_users/attachments/20200331/82… ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 15:34:47 -0500 From: Dennis Wage <dwage(a)dwage.com> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Replying to the list with a new To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com> Message-ID: <CAE1d062UJSV7m6Nw1Um5S29K_Loz5MdeJVryfqaWjOXVsNZFLQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I don't even want to know, why you are trying to reinvent the wheel. Dennis M. Wage (W9BOQ) 245 Corum Hill Road Castalian Springs, TN 37031 (615) 310-4242 Cell (615) 562-5128 Home http://hammondb3organ.net http://overdubs.net On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:23 AM NE1EE - Rich <NE1EE(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > David asked if I got a new thread...so I logged into the email package > to see. NO...my "new" subject is under a thread of Yaesu FT-7100 > Baofeng UV-5RA > showing the hijacked message > > My message appears in the same 5RA thread. > I was under the impression that, though the standard called out the > use of In-Reply-To, it was rarely used. Not the case here, as the mail > package correctly identified the thread. I suppose that has some > usefulness, because someone could preserve the thread and change the > subject, providing a clue to someone of the thread content. > > So ... > You need to start a new message. > Mike, WB4TTZ > > is entirely correct. I'm glad I ran the test and got the answer to a > pending question in my mind, though I didn't know how to find it. > Thanks Mike! > ~R~ > > _______________________________________________ > chirp_users mailing list > chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users > This message was sent to Dennis Wage at dwage(a)dwage.com To > unsubscribe, send an email to > chirp_users-unsubscribe(a)intrepid.danplanet.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://intrepid.danplanet.com/pipermail/chirp_users/attachments/20200331/f4… ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 17:18:27 -0500 From: W Paul Mills <ac0hy(a)wpmills.com> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Replying to the list with a new To: chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com Message-ID: <5d544d7a-bafc-4d2d-ab92-51f6ec71d6b3(a)wpmills.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://intrepid.danplanet.com/pipermail/chirp_users/attachments/20200331/ae… ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:16:03 -0500 From: David <weather(a)lightingunlimited.com> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Replying to the list with a new To: chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com Message-ID: <8f4bd56b-06fa-e5df-8d86-c75b0491c896(a)lightingunlimited.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Ok another question, If I am responding to a post do I use "reply" or do I use "reply list"? I use Thunderbird for email. David On 3/31/2020 10:21 AM, NE1EE - Rich wrote: > David asked if I got a new thread...so I logged into the email package > to see. NO...my "new" subject is under a thread of Yaesu FT-7100 > Baofeng UV-5RA > showing the hijacked message > > My message appears in the same 5RA thread. > I was under the impression that, though the standard called out the use of In-Reply-To, it was rarely used. Not the case here, as the mail package correctly identified the thread. I suppose that has some usefulness, because someone could preserve the thread and change the subject, providing a clue to someone of the thread content. > > So ... > You need to start a new message. > Mike, WB4TTZ > > is entirely correct. I'm glad I ran the test and got the answer to a pending question in my mind, though I didn't know how to find it. Thanks Mike! > ~R~ > > _______________________________________________ > chirp_users mailing list > chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users > This message was sent to Dave at weather(a)lightingunlimited.com To > unsubscribe, send an email to > chirp_users-unsubscribe(a)intrepid.danplanet.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 20:25:05 -0400 From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea(a)arrl.net> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Replying to the list with a new To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com> Message-ID: <CADO5RbjFDY7THRdJ+yuKV-zE2xqTQhJxZ2d8ZNU9MKR+_ZSFFw(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" David, Administrators can set the lists up so that replies go to the author, or to the list, or both, or "user decides" - moments ago I just set my googlegroups list to "user decides" because if I don't set it that way the author's email address is hidden - even from me - the list owner! Email lists are strange. Gmail doesn't send you back your own posts, which was the original setting "way" back in 1980s when everyone was on a 300 baud modem and phone lines. Conserve valuable bandwidth in those days. Now sending you your own message takes a few milliseconds. I still use mutt and thunderbird, both have "bounce" functions because sometimes my list subscribers think they have to send their emails to me for forwarding to the list. Bouncing an email makes it look like it was sent by the original sender to the final addressee - which in my case is always the email list, but it can be abused to fool people, Person A sends me and email, I bounce it to Person B and Person B thinks it was sent directly from Person A. You can see it came through me if you look at the headers. I did have my email list set up that way in 1994 when I started that list as a "one way" email list. Finally when google announced it was doing free lists, I jumped at the chance. I also printed newsletters using a Commodore 64 and GeoPublish - wow that's going back some. 73 DR N1EA On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 7:16 PM David <weather(a)lightingunlimited.com> wrote: > Ok another question, > > If I am responding to a post do I use "reply" or do I use "reply list"? > I use Thunderbird for email. > > David > > On 3/31/2020 10:21 AM, NE1EE - Rich wrote: > > David asked if I got a new thread...so I logged into the email > > package > to see. NO...my "new" subject is under a thread of > > Yaesu FT-7100 > > Baofeng UV-5RA > > showing the hijacked message > > > > My message appears in the same 5RA thread. > > I was under the impression that, though the standard called out the > > use > of In-Reply-To, it was rarely used. Not the case here, as the mail > package correctly identified the thread. I suppose that has some > usefulness, because someone could preserve the thread and change the > subject, providing a clue to someone of the thread content. > > > > So ... > > You need to start a new message. > > Mike, WB4TTZ > > > > is entirely correct. I'm glad I ran the test and got the answer to a > pending question in my mind, though I didn't know how to find it. > Thanks Mike! > > ~R~ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > chirp_users mailing list > > chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com > > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users > > This message was sent to Dave at weather(a)lightingunlimited.com To > > unsubscribe, send an email to > chirp_users-unsubscribe(a)intrepid.danplanet.com > _______________________________________________ > chirp_users mailing list > chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users > This message was sent to D.J.J. Ring, Jr. at n1ea(a)arrl.net To > unsubscribe, send an email to > chirp_users-unsubscribe(a)intrepid.danplanet.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://intrepid.danplanet.com/pipermail/chirp_users/attachments/20200331/ba… ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 13:17:47 -0400 From: NE1EE - Rich <NE1EE(a)hotmail.com> Subject: [chirp_users] email / forum etiquette To: chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com Message-ID: <DM5PR0701MB38138C9C831C5B464F5BF75CF5C90(a)DM5PR0701MB3813.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Well, I often see breaches of etiquette. The most serious of these is hijacked threads. I find it nearly impossible sometimes to find what I am looking for, because a thread with subject A will really be about subject B. So maybe we could have some sort of monthly reminder email, with explanations? ~R~ 73 de Rich NE1EE On the banks of the Piscataqua ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 09:25:11 -0500 From: Richard Shaw <hobbes1069(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] email / forum etiquette To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com> Message-ID: <CAN3TeO0PvgqaMjJMhyX7y3XzmeLde5aD=7ZA6Es=gU3Un_QnSA(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 8:50 AM NE1EE - Rich <NE1EE(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > So maybe we could have some sort of monthly reminder email, with > explanations? > A gentile but direct reminder is more effective I think, but it wouldn't hurt to reference the full list once a breach is noted (for everyone). This list seems pretty complete: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette Thanks, Richard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://intrepid.danplanet.com/pipermail/chirp_users/attachments/20200401/33… ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 10:44:29 -0400 From: NE1EE - Rich <NE1EE(a)hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] email / forum etiquette To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com> Message-ID: <DM5PR0701MB3813EB70EB65B674221BEC02F5C90(a)DM5PR0701MB3813.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Gosh! Thanks for being kind about that! I think that I am too outspoken, and I actually meant to delete the email. I was momentarily stunned when I saw a post with exactly the same subject! Yes...I like what you have recommended. I used to have a link to something similar, but then the web page went away. Saay...what's up here? I feel cheated <grin> Instructions For Specific Clients No Eudora! Again, thanks for the suggestion. Much appreciated, and I have bookmarked it. ~Rich~ On 2020-04-01 09:25:-0500, you wrote: >On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 8:50 AM NE1EE - Rich <<mailto:NE1EE@hotmail.com>NE1EE(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >So maybe we could have some sort of monthly reminder email, with explanations? > >A gentile but direct reminder is more effective I think, but it wouldn't hurt to reference the full list once a breach is noted (for everyone). > >This list seems pretty complete: > ><https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette>https://wiki.open >stack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette > >Thanks, >Richard ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe(a)intrepid.danplanet.com End of chirp_users Digest, Vol 136, Issue 1 *******************************************

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Re: [chirp_users] email / forum etiquette
by NE1EE - Rich 01 Apr '20

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Gosh! Thanks for being kind about that! I think that I am too outspoken, and I actually meant to delete the email. I was momentarily stunned when I saw a post with exactly the same subject! Yes...I like what you have recommended. I used to have a link to something similar, but then the web page went away. Saay...what's up here? I feel cheated <grin> Instructions For Specific Clients No Eudora! Again, thanks for the suggestion. Much appreciated, and I have bookmarked it. ~Rich~ On 2020-04-01 09:25:-0500, you wrote: >On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 8:50 AM NE1EE - Rich <<mailto:NE1EE@hotmail.com>NE1EE(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >So maybe we could have some sort of monthly reminder email, with explanations? > >A gentile but direct reminder is more effective I think, but it wouldn't hurt to reference the full list once a breach is noted (for everyone). > >This list seems pretty complete: > ><https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette>https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette > >Thanks, >Richard

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