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[chirp_users] icom IC-80AD future support?
by William Arcand 08 Aug '12

08 Aug '12

Greetings, Looking around at the support new radio section of your website I see that the icom ic-80AD was added to the list back in Sept 2011. I was wondering if any progress was made to support the radio, or if there are plans to support the radio. Any insight you could provide would be appreciated. 73 Bill W1WRA

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[chirp_users] New Daily Build
by Build System 30 Jul '12

30 Jul '12

Greetings, A new daily build of CHIRP is available. This includes changes made directly to the tree yesterday, and may include additional features, bug fixes, and/or bugs. If you are interested in trying it, grab it from the following location: http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/daily-20120730 A list of the changes included in this build (since the last daily) follows: Changes for Build #105 [Dan Smith <dsmith(a)danplanet.com>] Updated EU LPD and PMR channels from Inga Muste Fixes #259 Changes for Build #106 [Dan Smith <dsmith(a)danplanet.com>] Restore the last serial port even if it's not in the platform's list Fixes #262 Changes for Build #107 [Dan Smith <dsmith(a)danplanet.com>] [alinco] Identify the radio before downloading, for the log Related to #254

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Re: [chirp_users] Using Chirp with Ubuntu
by Creede Lambard 29 Jul '12

29 Jul '12

Geoffrey, Lots of things tend to work better when they're plugged in. :-) There are two main rig control programs for Linux that I'm aware of. One, grig, is in the Ubuntu repositories under "Amateur Radio". The other, flrig, is available through the developer's web site at http://w1hkj.com. I've used both and IMO flrig is nicer and better maintained, but YMMV. (Plus Dave, the developer of flrig, is approachable and responsive, and there's an active Yahoo group for Dave's software.) Try both and see. 73, Creede WA7KPK ------------------------------ From: Geoffrey K. Phillips Sent: 7/28/2012 1:30 PM To: chirp_users-request(a)intrepid.danplanet.com; chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Using Chirp with Ubuntu Hello all, I really appreciate al the help and suggestions given. All informative and useful. Turns out that old age has gotten the better of me and stupidity has set in with a vengeance. I had not plugged in the cable (duh !!), so there was nothing to be detected. Now all is well, and CHIRP works fine. In fact it feels more stable than on Windows XP. So again thanks for a job well done. { Now who knows about a good HF rig control program for UBUNTU?} Geoffrey On 28 Jul 2012 at 12:00, chirp_users-request(a)intrepid.danplanet.comchirp_users Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22 wrote: *> Send chirp_users mailing list submissions to* *> chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com* *> * *> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit* *> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users* *> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to* *> chirp_users-request(a)intrepid.danplanet.com* *> * *> You can reach the person managing the list at* *> chirp_users-owner(a)intrepid.danplanet.com* *> * *> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific* *> than "Re: Contents of chirp_users digest..."* *> * *> * *> Today's Topics:* *> * *> 1. Re: Using CHIRP with UBUNTU (Tom Hayward)* *> 2. Re: Using CHIRP with UBUNTU (D.J.J. Ring, Jr.)* *> 3. Re: Using CHIRP with UBUNTU (daemons_ca(a)yahoo.com)* *> 4. Using CHIRP with UBUNTU (chirp.fratermus(a)spamgourmet.net)* *> * *> * *> ----------------------------------------------------------------------* *> * *> Message: 1* *> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:04:48 -0600* *> From: Tom Hayward <esarfl(a)gmail.com>* *> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Using CHIRP with UBUNTU* *> To: gphillips13(a)centurylink.net, Discussion of CHIRP* *> <chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com>* *> Message-ID:* *> <CAFXO5Z20HS_XX=5kn0PANUQzS9Gza0VhLn= c0Pw57ZQpYgfVvQ(a)mail.gmail.com>* *> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8* *> * *> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Geoffrey K. Phillips* *> <gphillips13(a)centurylink.net> wrote:* *> > Hi there,* *> >* *> > Well, I got CHIRP to work fine with my handy little Baofeng UV-5R on Windows* *> > XP. [well done fellows !!]* *> >* *> > I now have it running on UBUNTU, except it looks for a tty(x) driver, and I* *> > use a USB cable.* *> >* *> > What do I have to do so that I can use this cable? Do I need a Linux driver?* *> > And if so, where do I get one?* *> * *> All of the drivers are included with Ubuntu and loaded automatically* *> (easy, eh?).* *> * *> You will probably find your cable at /dev/ttyUSB0.* *> * *> Tom KD7LXL* *> * *> * *> ------------------------------* *> * *> Message: 2* *> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:16:34 -0400* *> From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea(a)arrl.net>* *> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Using CHIRP with UBUNTU* *> To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com>* *> Message-ID:* *> < CADO5RbhqG6hhfOfyh2V4bzRY5w2-yAOTRE9-FXQCH-oic+7umQ(a)mail.gmail.com>* *> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"* *> * *> Also get a listing of /dev/USB01 with the -l for long listing.* *> * *> Then check the group and see if you have privledges to "hear" and "send"* *> through that device.* *> * *> http://bugs.goldencheetah.org/projects/goldencheetah/wiki/Allowing_your_Lin… * *> * *> I'm not at the rig, so I don't have a USB01 device - but my user groups are:* *> dr adm lp dialout fax cdrom floppy tape sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare* *> * *> Where dr is my username group.* *> * *> You have to add yourself to dialout if I remember correctly, that article * *> will help or just do:* *> * *> sudo nano /etc/group* *> * *> or if you want to use gedit in X windows.* *> sudo gedit /etc/group* *> * *> Find dialout it will look something like this - the number may differ.* *> dialout:x:20:* *> * *> At the end of that line add your user name like I will add mine:* *> dialout:x:20:dr* *> * *> Save the file, and exit. Control O and control X if using nano.* *> * *> Best to you,* *> * *> David* *> * *> * *> David J. Ring, Jr., N1EA <http://www.qsl.net/n1ea/> Radio-Officers* *> Group<http://groups.google.com/group/radio-officers?hl=en>-- Join* *> CW email list <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/cw%20> -- Historic * *> Morse Recordings <http://archive.org/search.php?query=n1ea>* *> *Gopher Hole:* gopher://sdf.org/1/users/djringjr/ (native or with* *> Firefox's Overbite extension) or via http to gopher* *> gateway< http://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw?gopher://sdf.org/1/users/djringjr/>* *> *C**hat* Skype: djringjr MSN: djringjr(a)msn.com AIM: N1EA icq: 27380609* *> * *> =30=* *> * *> * *> * *> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Tom Hayward <esarfl(a)gmail.com> wrote:* *> * *> > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Geoffrey K. Phillips* *> > <gphillips13(a)centurylink.net> wrote:* *> > > Hi there,* *> > >* *> > > Well, I got CHIRP to work fine with my handy little Baofeng UV-5R on* *> > Windows* *> > > XP. [well done fellows !!]* *> > >* *> > > I now have it running on UBUNTU, except it looks for a tty(x) driver, * *> > and I* *> > > use a USB cable.* *> > >* *> > > What do I have to do so that I can use this cable? Do I need a Linux* *> > driver?* *> > > And if so, where do I get one?* *> >* *> > All of the drivers are included with Ubuntu and loaded automatically* *> > (easy, eh?).* *> >* *> > You will probably find your cable at /dev/ttyUSB0.* *> >* *> > Tom KD7LXL* *> > _______________________________________________* *> > chirp_users mailing list* *> > chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com* *> > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users* *> >* *> -------------- next part --------------* *> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...* *> URL: http://intrepid.danplanet.com/pipermail/chirp_users/attachments/20120727/fb… * *> * *> ------------------------------* *> * *> Message: 3* *> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:31:41 -0700 (PDT)* *> From: daemons_ca(a)yahoo.com* *> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Using CHIRP with UBUNTU* *> To: "chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com"* *> <chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com>* *> Message-ID:* *> <1343421101.4113.YahooMailNeo(a)web110304.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>* *> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"* *> * *> Geoffrey,* *> * *> No driver needed. USB serial devices are detected by the kernel.* *> * *> It's very easy. Just edit the /dev/ttyS0 to /dev/ttyUSB0 or 1 whichever was detected.?* *> * *> Do a?* *> ls -alt /dev/ttyU*?* *> in a terminal window to find which device it used after you've plugged in the cable.* *> * *> * *> You'll get something like this:* *> crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 188, 0 Jul 27 16:18 /dev/ttyUSB0* *> * *> Make sure your user is part of the dialout group to avoid having to run Chirp as root.* *> * *> * *> Enjoy,* *> * *> * *> Marc-Andre, Ve2evn* *> * *> * *> * *> * *> >________________________________* *> > From: "chirp_users-request(a)intrepid.danplanet.com" < chirp_users-request(a)intrepid.danplanet.com>* *> >To: chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com * *> >Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:00 PM* *> >Subject: chirp_users Digest, Vol 43, Issue 21* *> > * *> >Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:15:51 -0400* *> >From: "Geoffrey K. Phillips" <gphillips13(a)centurylink.net>* *> >Subject: [chirp_users] Using CHIRP with UBUNTU* *> >To: chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com* *> >Message-ID: <5012DAD7.22500.D82DA20(a)gphillips13.centurylink.net>* *> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"* *> >* *> >Hi there,* *> >* *> >Well, I got CHIRP to work fine with my handy little Baofeng UV-5R on * *> >Windows XP. [well done fellows !!]* *> >* *> >I now have it running on UBUNTU, except it looks for a tty(x) driver, and I * *> >use a USB cable.* *> >* *> >What do I have to do so that I can use this cable? Do I need a Linux driver? * *> >And if so, where do I get one?* *> >* *> >Thank you a lot,* *> >* *> >Geoffrey* *> >* *> >* *> >* *> >Geofrey K. Phillips* *> >gphillips13(a)centurylink.net* *> >WD4LYO* *> >* *> -------------- next part --------------* *> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...* *> URL: http://intrepid.danplanet.com/pipermail/chirp_users/attachments/20120727/ca… * *> * *> ------------------------------* *> * *> Message: 4* *> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 19:11:28 -0500* *> From: chirp.fratermus(a)spamgourmet.net* *> Subject: [chirp_users] Using CHIRP with UBUNTU* *> To: chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com* *> Message-ID:* *> < CAD+7+NpNJEPBsVy0TOtvdQLaLag_JkqfFjPb+qNbAJCSR5tNcQ(a)mail.gmail.com>* *> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1* *> * *> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:00 PM,* *> <+chirp+fratermus+d96050956e.chirp_users-request# intrepid.danplanet.com(a)spamgourmet.com>* *> wrote:* *> > From: "Geoffrey K. Phillips" <gphillips13(a)centurylink.net>* *> > Subject: [chirp_users] Using CHIRP with UBUNTU* *> * *> > I now have it running on UBUNTU, except it looks for a tty(x) driver, and I* *> > use a USB cable.* *> * *> Linux handles it gracefully (probably even the fake chips), and generally * *> assigns it to something like:* *> /dev/ttyUSB0* *> (number zero, not the capital letter O)* *> * *> You can type in the /dev/ttyUSB0 in the chirp dialog and it will remember it.* *> * *> For more indication what your system is doing, run one or more of the* *> following. There are probably more elegant ways to see but I haven't* *> had my coffee yet...* *> dmesg | grep tty* *> ls /dev/tty** *> * *> * *> * *> -- * *> Jason Carr* *> http://www.mousetrap.net/mouse/* *> * *> * *> * *> ------------------------------* *> * *> _______________________________________________* *> chirp_users mailing list* *> chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com* *> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users* *> * *> * *> End of chirp_users Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22* *> ******************************************** *> * *> * *> -----* *> No virus found in this message.* *> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com* *> Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5160 - Release Date: 07/28/12 * *> * Geofrey K. Phillips gphillips13(a)centurylink.net WD4LYO

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[chirp_users] KG-UV6D
by Milton Garb 29 Jul '12

29 Jul '12

I see on the Chirp website that this radio is supported, "In Daily Builds". Does that mean it's ready and will work? I don't want to do something that will freeze up the radio. Your patience please. Milt. N6MG

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Re: [chirp_users] Using Chirp with Ubuntu
by Geoffrey K. Phillips 28 Jul '12

28 Jul '12

Hello all, I really appreciate al the help and suggestions given. All informative and useful. Turns out that old age has gotten the better of me and stupidity has set in with a vengeance. I had not plugged in the cable (duh !!), so there was nothing to be detected. Now all is well, and CHIRP works fine. In fact it feels more stable than on Windows XP. So again thanks for a job well done. { Now who knows about a good HF rig control program for UBUNTU?} Geoffrey On 28 Jul 2012 at 12:00, chirp_users-request(a)intrepid.danplanet.comchirp_users Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22 wrote: > Send chirp_users mailing list submissions to > chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > chirp_users-request(a)intrepid.danplanet.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > chirp_users-owner(a)intrepid.danplanet.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of chirp_users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Using CHIRP with UBUNTU (Tom Hayward) > 2. Re: Using CHIRP with UBUNTU (D.J.J. Ring, Jr.) > 3. Re: Using CHIRP with UBUNTU (daemons_ca(a)yahoo.com) > 4. Using CHIRP with UBUNTU (chirp.fratermus(a)spamgourmet.net) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:04:48 -0600 > From: Tom Hayward <esarfl(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Using CHIRP with UBUNTU > To: gphillips13(a)centurylink.net, Discussion of CHIRP > <chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com> > Message-ID: > <CAFXO5Z20HS_XX=5kn0PANUQzS9Gza0VhLn=c0Pw57ZQpYgfVvQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Geoffrey K. Phillips > <gphillips13(a)centurylink.net> wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > Well, I got CHIRP to work fine with my handy little Baofeng UV-5R on Windows > > XP. [well done fellows !!] > > > > I now have it running on UBUNTU, except it looks for a tty(x) driver, and I > > use a USB cable. > > > > What do I have to do so that I can use this cable? Do I need a Linux driver? > > And if so, where do I get one? > > All of the drivers are included with Ubuntu and loaded automatically > (easy, eh?). > > You will probably find your cable at /dev/ttyUSB0. > > Tom KD7LXL > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:16:34 -0400 > From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea(a)arrl.net> > Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Using CHIRP with UBUNTU > To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com> > Message-ID: > <CADO5RbhqG6hhfOfyh2V4bzRY5w2-yAOTRE9-FXQCH-oic+7umQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Also get a listing of /dev/USB01 with the -l for long listing. > > Then check the group and see if you have privledges to "hear" and "send" > through that device. > > http://bugs.goldencheetah.org/projects/goldencheetah/wiki/Allowing_your_Lin… > > I'm not at the rig, so I don't have a USB01 device - but my user groups are: > dr adm lp dialout fax cdrom floppy tape sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare > > Where dr is my username group. > > You have to add yourself to dialout if I remember correctly, that article > will help or just do: > > sudo nano /etc/group > > or if you want to use gedit in X windows. > sudo gedit /etc/group > > Find dialout it will look something like this - the number may differ. > dialout:x:20: > > At the end of that line add your user name like I will add mine: > dialout:x:20:dr > > Save the file, and exit. Control O and control X if using nano. > > Best to you, > > David > > > David J. Ring, Jr., N1EA <http://www.qsl.net/n1ea/> Radio-Officers > Group<http://groups.google.com/group/radio-officers?hl=en>-- Join > CW email list <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/cw%20> -- Historic > Morse Recordings <http://archive.org/search.php?query=n1ea> > *Gopher Hole:* gopher://sdf.org/1/users/djringjr/ (native or with > Firefox's Overbite extension) or via http to gopher > gateway<http://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw?gopher://sdf.org/1/users/djringjr/> > *C**hat* Skype: djringjr MSN: djringjr(a)msn.com AIM: N1EA icq: 27380609 > > =30= > > > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Tom Hayward <esarfl(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Geoffrey K. Phillips > > <gphillips13(a)centurylink.net> wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > > > Well, I got CHIRP to work fine with my handy little Baofeng UV-5R on > > Windows > > > XP. [well done fellows !!] > > > > > > I now have it running on UBUNTU, except it looks for a tty(x) driver, > > and I > > > use a USB cable. > > > > > > What do I have to do so that I can use this cable? Do I need a Linux > > driver? > > > And if so, where do I get one? > > > > All of the drivers are included with Ubuntu and loaded automatically > > (easy, eh?). > > > > You will probably find your cable at /dev/ttyUSB0. > > > > Tom KD7LXL > > _______________________________________________ > > chirp_users mailing list > > chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com > > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users > > >

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[chirp_users] Using CHIRP with UBUNTU
by chirp.fratermus＠spamgourmet.net 27 Jul '12

27 Jul '12

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:00 PM, <+chirp+fratermus+d96050956e.chirp_users-request#intrepid.danplanet.com(a)spamgourmet.com> wrote: > From: "Geoffrey K. Phillips" <gphillips13(a)centurylink.net> > Subject: [chirp_users] Using CHIRP with UBUNTU > I now have it running on UBUNTU, except it looks for a tty(x) driver, and I > use a USB cable. Linux handles it gracefully (probably even the fake chips), and generally assigns it to something like: /dev/ttyUSB0 (number zero, not the capital letter O) You can type in the /dev/ttyUSB0 in the chirp dialog and it will remember it. For more indication what your system is doing, run one or more of the following. There are probably more elegant ways to see but I haven't had my coffee yet... dmesg | grep tty ls /dev/tty* -- Jason Carr http://www.mousetrap.net/mouse/

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Re: [chirp_users] Using CHIRP with UBUNTU
by daemons_ca＠yahoo.com 27 Jul '12

27 Jul '12

Geoffrey, No driver needed. USB serial devices are detected by the kernel. It's very easy. Just edit the /dev/ttyS0 to /dev/ttyUSB0 or 1 whichever was detected. Do a ls -alt /dev/ttyU* in a terminal window to find which device it used after you've plugged in the cable. You'll get something like this: crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 188, 0 Jul 27 16:18 /dev/ttyUSB0 Make sure your user is part of the dialout group to avoid having to run Chirp as root. Enjoy, Marc-Andre, Ve2evn >________________________________ > From: "chirp_users-request(a)intrepid.danplanet.com" <chirp_users-request(a)intrepid.danplanet.com> >To: chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com >Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:00 PM >Subject: chirp_users Digest, Vol 43, Issue 21 > >Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:15:51 -0400 >From: "Geoffrey K. Phillips" <gphillips13(a)centurylink.net> >Subject: [chirp_users] Using CHIRP with UBUNTU >To: chirp_users(a)intrepid.danplanet.com >Message-ID: <5012DAD7.22500.D82DA20(a)gphillips13.centurylink.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Hi there, > >Well, I got CHIRP to work fine with my handy little Baofeng UV-5R on >Windows XP. [well done fellows !!] > >I now have it running on UBUNTU, except it looks for a tty(x) driver, and I >use a USB cable. > >What do I have to do so that I can use this cable? Do I need a Linux driver? >And if so, where do I get one? > >Thank you a lot, > >Geoffrey > > > >Geofrey K. Phillips >gphillips13(a)centurylink.net >WD4LYO >

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[chirp_users] Using CHIRP with UBUNTU
by Geoffrey K. Phillips 27 Jul '12

27 Jul '12

Hi there, Well, I got CHIRP to work fine with my handy little Baofeng UV-5R on Windows XP. [well done fellows !!] I now have it running on UBUNTU, except it looks for a tty(x) driver, and I use a USB cable. What do I have to do so that I can use this cable? Do I need a Linux driver? And if so, where do I get one? Thank you a lot, Geoffrey Geofrey K. Phillips gphillips13(a)centurylink.net WD4LYO

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[chirp_users] How to install Development builds
by chirp.fratermus＠spamgourmet.net 27 Jul '12

27 Jul '12

> From: "Jay Moran, N2JCM" <jay+CHIRP(a)tp.org> > Subject: Re: [chirp_users] How to install Development builds > http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/ > > >From there you can scan through looking for the latest daily build date, as > of today that would be daily-20120724. Here is a direct link: ... > Of course, that date/link will change when there is a new build available. Does anyone else see any value in symlinks on the server that would point to the latest directory/builds? IMO it could simplify project documentation and would simplify scripting solutions to pull the the latest version programmatically on non-*buntu platforms. The most recent example would be: daily-latest/ --> daily-20120724/ chirp-daily-latest-installer.exe --> chirp-daily-20120724-installer.exe chirp-daily-latest-win32.zip --> chirp-daily-20120724-win32.zip chirp-daily-latest.app.zip --> chirp-daily-20120724.app.zip chirp-daily-latest.tar.gz --> chirp-daily-20120724.tar.gz Under this model this kind of URL would always be valid: http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/daily-latest/chirp-daily-latest… This all assumes the dailies are published by a script that would be amenable to automagically updating the symlinks (delete the current links and make new ones to the new dailies). If it's done by hand then return on invested effort would be much less. -- Jason Carr http://www.mousetrap.net/mouse/

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Re: [chirp_users] How to install Development builds
by David Carlson 27 Jul '12

27 Jul '12

Ok then I guess I don't see the daily builds. The stable version is a single installer.exe file where do I get the new versions. Sorry I should have a clue but I seem to be missing something. Thanks, Dave KA2OQZ

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