[chirp_users] How in the world . . . .
How in the world did you people get a ham license if you can't read?
The instructions to unsubscribe appear on every message list.
The majority of issues about chirp and your radio can be answered by reading either the radio's manual or the Q&A area of the web site.
Did some sit beside you giving you the answers on the license test?
Or, did you just pass your test by luck?
Just wondering.
Priceless and well put.
EC
On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:05 PM, DocBeattie . doc.beattie@gmail.com wrote:
How in the world did you people get a ham license if you can't read?
The instructions to unsubscribe appear on every message list.
The majority of issues about chirp and your radio can be answered by reading either the radio's manual or the Q&A area of the web site.
Did some sit beside you giving you the answers on the license test?
Or, did you just pass your test by luck?
Just wondering. _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
Every village needs one.
Sent from my euphonium
On 4 Feb 2015, at 09:47, Erik Claus clausvms@yahoo.com wrote:
Priceless and well put.
EC
On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:05 PM, DocBeattie . doc.beattie@gmail.com wrote:
How in the world did you people get a ham license if you can't read?
The instructions to unsubscribe appear on every message list.
The majority of issues about chirp and your radio can be answered by reading either the radio's manual or the Q&A area of the web site.
Did some sit beside you giving you the answers on the license test?
Or, did you just pass your test by luck?
Just wondering. _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
Can you play that euphonium in the upper register?
What a great instrument!
I'd almost give up Morse to play one of those, they're so sweet.
73 DR N1EA
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:35 PM, Malcolm Larkin malcolm.larkin@icloud.com wrote:
Every village needs one.
Sent from my euphonium
On 4 Feb 2015, at 09:47, Erik Claus clausvms@yahoo.com wrote:
Priceless and well put.
EC
On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:05 PM, DocBeattie . doc.beattie@gmail.com wrote:
How in the world did you people get a ham license if you can't read?
The instructions to unsubscribe appear on every message list.
The majority of issues about chirp and your radio can be answered by
reading either the radio's manual or the Q&A area of the web site.
Did some sit beside you giving you the answers on the license test?
Or, did you just pass your test by luck?
Just wondering. _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
Not a good idea to be too critical, boys. Those of you who present as knowledgable, get asked the questions. Something like the teacher in a classroom.
If you belittle the kid who asks what *you* think is a dumb question, he won't do it again.
So then what?
Eventually, you will live in your own little world and nobody will ask you anything.
Pretty soon you will be asking the "dumb" questions.
I wonder who will answer.
Maybe we should stop this stuff.
Fred VE3KYD/VE3EE
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:35 PM, Malcolm Larkin malcolm.larkin@icloud.com wrote:
Every village needs one.
Sent from my euphonium
On 4 Feb 2015, at 09:47, Erik Claus clausvms@yahoo.com wrote:
Priceless and well put.
EC
On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:05 PM, DocBeattie . doc.beattie@gmail.com wrote:
How in the world did you people get a ham license if you can't read?
The instructions to unsubscribe appear on every message list.
The majority of issues about chirp and your radio can be answered by
reading either the radio's manual or the Q&A area of the web site.
Did some sit beside you giving you the answers on the license test?
Or, did you just pass your test by luck?
Just wondering. _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
Granted, Fred, but I have little patience with people who won’t take a second to explore, their knee-jerk reaction being to have someone ‘do it for me’. I’m also not an ‘old style’ Ham who grouses at everything. :) This is so common for ANY email list that it should be expected by now. It’s been going on for a decade or more. But for the rest, maybe the suggestion below might be useful….
——>>>> Perhaps if the list owner would add a tag to the lines at the bottom, as many lists do, that says: “to UNSUBSCRIBE click here:” and the list URL. I’m sure that wouldn’t 100% fix it, but it might be an assisting step or at least something those who are ruffled could point to in disgust. :)
Forrest
On Feb 4, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Fred Springer littlekyd@gmail.com wrote:
Not a good idea to be too critical, boys. Those of you who present as knowledgable, get asked the questions. Something like the teacher in a classroom.
If you belittle the kid who asks what you think is a dumb question, he won't do it again.
So then what?
Eventually, you will live in your own little world and nobody will ask you anything.
Pretty soon you will be asking the "dumb" questions.
I wonder who will answer.
Maybe we should stop this stuff.
Fred VE3KYD/VE3EE
Good response, Forrest. And I have to agree. Fred
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Forrest Joyner wfj@usa.com wrote:
Granted, Fred, but I have little patience with people who won’t take a second to explore, their knee-jerk reaction being to have someone ‘do it for me’. I’m also not an ‘old style’ Ham who grouses at everything. :) This is so common for ANY email list that it should be expected by now. It’s been going on for a decade or more. But for the rest, maybe the suggestion below might be useful….
——>>>> Perhaps if the list owner would add a tag to the lines at the bottom, as many lists do, that says: “to UNSUBSCRIBE click here:” and the list URL. I’m sure that wouldn’t 100% fix it, but it might be an assisting step or at least something those who are ruffled could point to in disgust. :)
Forrest
On Feb 4, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Fred Springer littlekyd@gmail.com wrote:
Not a good idea to be too critical, boys. Those of you who present as knowledgable, get asked the questions. Something like the teacher in a classroom.
If you belittle the kid who asks what *you* think is a dumb question, he won't do it again.
So then what?
Eventually, you will live in your own little world and nobody will ask you anything.
Pretty soon you will be asking the "dumb" questions.
I wonder who will answer.
Maybe we should stop this stuff.
Fred VE3KYD/VE3EE
chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
but I have little patience with people who won’t take a second to explore
I don't think this is really the issue, but this type of attitude is what keeps a lot younger folks out of our hobby.
They go to a meeting, ask what someone else thinks is a dumb question, gets berated and never goes to another meeting.
Well done, gentlemen.
73 - Bill KA8VIT
On February 4, 2015 at 11:53 AM Forrest Joyner wfj@usa.com wrote:
Granted, Fred, but I have little patience with people who won’t take a second to explore, their knee-jerk reaction being to have someone ‘do it for me’. I’m also not an ‘old style’ Ham who grouses at everything. :)
==================================== Bill Chaikin, KA8VIT USS COD Amateur Radio Club - W8COD WW2 Submarine USS COD SS-224 (NECO)
ka8vit@ka8vit.com http://ka8vit.com http://www.usscod.org ====================================
It is kind of like the parent who continually tells his kid that he doesn't know what he is talking about and then wonders why the kid won't talk to him any more.
Fred VE3KYD/VE3EE
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 12:02 PM, ka8vit@ka8vit.com ka8vit@ka8vit.com wrote:
but I have little patience with people who won’t take a second to
explore
I don't think this is really the issue, but this type of attitude is what keeps a lot younger folks out of our hobby.
They go to a meeting, ask what someone else thinks is a dumb question, gets berated and never goes to another meeting.
Well done, gentlemen.
73 - Bill KA8VIT
On February 4, 2015 at 11:53 AM Forrest Joyner wfj@usa.com wrote:
Granted, Fred, but I have little patience with people who won’t take a second to explore, their knee-jerk reaction being to have someone ‘do it for me’. I’m also not an ‘old style’ Ham who grouses at everything. :)
==================================== Bill Chaikin, KA8VIT USS COD Amateur Radio Club - W8COD WW2 Submarine USS COD SS-224 (NECO)
ka8vit@ka8vit.com http://ka8vit.com http://www.usscod.org ====================================
chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
I can’t find the correlation. This isn’t about amateur radio, this is about common sense. No one groused at answering any radio question. We are being told ‘over and over’ to remove people from the list. My first question is often, ‘how did you get on the list?’. The answer is not ‘they put me on it’.
<shrug> enough from me on this. That’s my 2 cents and I’m sticking to it. :)
Forrest
On Feb 4, 2015, at 11:02 AM, ka8vit@ka8vit.com wrote:
but I have little patience with people who won’t take a second to explore
I don't think this is really the issue, but this type of attitude is what keeps a lot younger folks out of our hobby.
They go to a meeting, ask what someone else thinks is a dumb question, gets berated and never goes to another meeting.
Well done, gentlemen.
73 - Bill KA8VIT
On February 4, 2015 at 11:53 AM Forrest Joyner wfj@usa.com wrote:
Granted, Fred, but I have little patience with people who won’t take a second to explore, their knee-jerk reaction being to have someone ‘do it for me’. I’m also not an ‘old style’ Ham who grouses at everything. :)
==================================== Bill Chaikin, KA8VIT USS COD Amateur Radio Club - W8COD WW2 Submarine USS COD SS-224 (NECO)
ka8vit@ka8vit.com http://ka8vit.com http://www.usscod.org ====================================
Maybe it is not what you say, but how you say it.
You'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
Just sayin'...
73 - Bill KA8VIT
On February 4, 2015 at 12:34 PM Forrest Joyner wfj@usa.com wrote:
I can’t find the correlation. This isn’t about amateur radio, this is about common sense. No one groused at answering any radio question. We are being told ‘over and over’ to remove people from the list. My first question is often, ‘how did you get on the list?’. The answer is not ‘they put me on it’.
==================================== Bill Chaikin, KA8VIT USS COD Amateur Radio Club - W8COD WW2 Submarine USS COD SS-224 (NECO)
ka8vit@ka8vit.com http://ka8vit.com http://www.usscod.org ====================================
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Forrest Joyner wfj@usa.com wrote:
——>>>> Perhaps if the list owner would add a tag to the lines at the bottom, as many lists do, that says: “to UNSUBSCRIBE click here:” and the list URL. I’m sure that wouldn’t 100% fix it, but it might be an assisting step or at least something those who are ruffled could point to in disgust. :)
This is actually included in every message, but it's in the headers. Here's an example:
List-Unsubscribe: http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users, mailto:chirp_users-request@intrepid.danplanet.com?subject=unsubscribe
This is the "correct" way to provide an unsubscribe link, as specified in RFC 2369 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2369.html. Capable MUAs should present this to the user in the form of a big unsubscribe button. Unfortunately, many users will use MUAs that don't support this.
On a grander scale, I have to wonder how these users got subscribed in the first place. The subscribe and unsubscribe processes are the same, so they most have been capable of figuring it out at some point if they successfully subscribed. Luckily, this also means most users incapable of unsubscribing themselves will never figure out how to subscribe in the first place.
Tom KD7LXL
Tom…..! You don’t seriously expect email/list rookies to be able to find the headers do you? It’s more about what works for apparent email list novices and finding and reading headers isn’t going to be it. They are clearly going to need more spoon feeding than that. I think that’s an awkward technicality up which to take a stance.
Forrest
On Feb 4, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Tom Hayward tom@tomh.us wrote:
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Forrest Joyner wfj@usa.com wrote:
——>>>> Perhaps if the list owner would add a tag to the lines at the bottom, as many lists do, that says: “to UNSUBSCRIBE click here:” and the list URL. I’m sure that wouldn’t 100% fix it, but it might be an assisting step or at least something those who are ruffled could point to in disgust. :)
This is actually included in every message, but it's in the headers. Here's an example:
List-Unsubscribe: http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users, mailto:chirp_users-request@intrepid.danplanet.com?subject=unsubscribe
This is the "correct" way to provide an unsubscribe link, as specified in RFC 2369 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2369.html. Capable MUAs should present this to the user in the form of a big unsubscribe button. Unfortunately, many users will use MUAs that don't support this.
On a grander scale, I have to wonder how these users got subscribed in the first place. The subscribe and unsubscribe processes are the same, so they most have been capable of figuring it out at some point if they successfully subscribed. Luckily, this also means most users incapable of unsubscribing themselves will never figure out how to subscribe in the first place.
Tom KD7LXL _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Forrest Joyner wfj@usa.com wrote:
Tom…..! You don’t seriously expect email/list rookies to be able to find the headers do you?
No, I expect MUA developers to properly implement the spec and expose a big unsubscribe button to their users.
Tom KD7LXL
It doesn't matter how bad the pilot is... The plane is always going to land....
On 2/4/15, Tom Hayward tom@tomh.us wrote:
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Forrest Joyner wfj@usa.com wrote:
Tom…..! You don’t seriously expect email/list rookies to be able to find the headers do you?
No, I expect MUA developers to properly implement the spec and expose a big unsubscribe button to their users.
Tom KD7LXL _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
This is me turning blue….. I think you’re a few levels above me on this, but I’ll continue pretending to know what I’m talking about a little while longer.
I think the number of people who even use email is dwindling and the number of those who use a traditional client are still fewer. People want a cute GUI, all pre-digested for them, while somewhat old school that I am, still use POP/SMTP and hardly ever fool with webmail. I get all gnarly when people complain about hijacking threads and sort by conversation.
Maybe I am a grouse after all. “She” says I am, LOL, but that’s usually when I’m yelling at other drivers. She has no idea how bad I am online.
Later, Forrest
On Feb 4, 2015, at 11:41 AM, Tom Hayward tom@tomh.us wrote:
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Forrest Joyner wfj@usa.com wrote:
Tom…..! You don’t seriously expect email/list rookies to be able to find the headers do you?
No, I expect MUA developers to properly implement the spec and expose a big unsubscribe button to their users.
Tom KD7LXL _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
1) Mailman should be intercepting most of these 'unsubscribe' requests to the main list and queueing them up as admin requests; the mailing list config probably needs to be tweaked to enable that.
2) I have found tweaking the mailman footers to include the magic work 'unsubscribe' helps quite a bit
mike
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Michael Pittaro mikeyp@lhrc.com wrote:
- Mailman should be intercepting most of these 'unsubscribe' requests
to the main list and queueing them up as admin requests; the mailing list config probably needs to be tweaked to enable that.
Mailman is intercepting the "unsubscribe" requests, but not the "unsubscribing", "remove me", or "don't send me this stuff anymore" requests. I can hardly blame it; Mailman is not a native English speaker (it's written in Python ;-).
Maybe you can suggest some rules to capture this stuff?
Tom KD7LXL
Tom,
The fact that the unsubscribe information is in the header, for a mailing list, is irrelevant in todays world. Todays email user has absolutely no knowledge of email headers or even how to find them. If a list owner wants the subscriber to see how to unsubscribe, a direct link must be put in the message footer.
Yeah, those of us that have been around for a long time know it's in the header, but then, those of us who have been around a long time know how to unsubscribe from a mailing list.
Tom Hayward wrote:
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Forrest Joynerwfj@usa.com wrote:
——>>>> Perhaps if the list owner would add a tag to the lines at the bottom, as many lists do, that says: “to UNSUBSCRIBE click here:” and the list URL. I’m sure that wouldn’t 100% fix it, but it might be an assisting step or at least something those who are ruffled could point to in disgust. :)
This is actually included in every message, but it's in the headers. Here's an example:
List-Unsubscribe:http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users, mailto:chirp_users-request@intrepid.danplanet.com?subject=unsubscribe
This is the "correct" way to provide an unsubscribe link, as specified in RFC 2369 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2369.html. Capable MUAs should present this to the user in the form of a big unsubscribe button. Unfortunately, many users will use MUAs that don't support this.
On a grander scale, I have to wonder how these users got subscribed in the first place. The subscribe and unsubscribe processes are the same, so they most have been capable of figuring it out at some point if they successfully subscribed. Luckily, this also means most users incapable of unsubscribing themselves will never figure out how to subscribe in the first place.
Tom KD7LXL _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
And the solution is what, putting unsubscribe links between every paragraph?
On Wed, February 4, 2015 12:43 pm, John Rice wrote:
The fact that the unsubscribe information is in the header, for a mailing list, is irrelevant in todays world. Todays email user has absolutely no knowledge of email headers or even how to find them. If a list owner wants the subscriber to see how to unsubscribe, a direct link must be put in the message footer.
Yeah, those of us that have been around for a long time know it's in the header, but then, those of us who have been around a long time know how to unsubscribe from a mailing list.
-- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.
NYC-ARECS/RACES Net Mon. @ 8:30PM 147.360/107.2 PL http://www.nyc-arecs.org and http://www.nyc-skywarn.org
NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB/1500 hz waterfall spot; Olivia 8/500 check-ins
"Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan
"The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus
"Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.)
"No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan
I don't know, but when so many continue to have problems, you don't stubbornly refuse to attempt improvements!
I suppose it's more fun to bash those who don't know better.
Mike Earls AF5MS TSRA Life Member NRA Benefactor Member
-----Original Message----- From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Charles J. Hargrove Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 1:05 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] How in the world . . . .
And the solution is what, putting unsubscribe links between every paragraph?
On Wed, February 4, 2015 12:43 pm, John Rice wrote:
The fact that the unsubscribe information is in the header, for a mailing list, is irrelevant in todays world. Todays email user has absolutely no knowledge of email headers or even how to find them. If a list owner wants the subscriber to see how to unsubscribe, a direct link must be put in the message footer.
Yeah, those of us that have been around for a long time know it's in the header, but then, those of us who have been around a long time know how to unsubscribe from a mailing list.
-- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
This seems so incongruous to me. Day after day after day ..., there is the same question about Windows drivers and a near-saint-like patient response. Why does the less frequent unsubscribe help request create this reaction? The choices are 1) a one sentence response or 2) nothing.
Alan,,, n4lbl
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Michael D Earls mikeearls@earthlink.net wrote:
I don't know, but when so many continue to have problems, you don't stubbornly refuse to attempt improvements!
I suppose it's more fun to bash those who don't know better.
Mike Earls AF5MS TSRA Life Member NRA Benefactor Member
-----Original Message----- From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Charles J. Hargrove Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 1:05 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] How in the world . . . .
And the solution is what, putting unsubscribe links between every paragraph?
On Wed, February 4, 2015 12:43 pm, John Rice wrote:
The fact that the unsubscribe information is in the header, for a mailing list, is irrelevant in todays world. Todays email user has absolutely no knowledge of email headers or even how to find them. If a list owner wants the subscriber to see how to unsubscribe, a direct link must be put in the message footer.
Yeah, those of us that have been around for a long time know it's in the header, but then, those of us who have been around a long time know how to unsubscribe from a mailing list.
-- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Alan wrote:
Why does the less frequent unsubscribe help request create this reaction?
Most of the time, someone will helpfully point out the means to unsubscribe. What blew up this time was the string of "take me off this lists" requests right after someone did post instructions on how to do just that. Funniest of all was the person who was tired of being "spammed" by a list that he obviously had to opt in to receive. I'm not aware of any random system that just grabs email addresses and adds them to this list -- someone has to complete some action to add an address to the list. Then there is surprise when email shows up, so one has to wonder about the mental acuity of some people.
Bruce in Blacksburg KB4GIW
subscribe
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Bruce Harper brucebharper@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Alan wrote:
Why does the less frequent unsubscribe help request create this reaction?
Most of the time, someone will helpfully point out the means to unsubscribe. What blew up this time was the string of "take me off this lists" requests right after someone did post instructions on how to do just that. Funniest of all was the person who was tired of being "spammed" by a list that he obviously had to opt in to receive. I'm not aware of any random system that just grabs email addresses and adds them to this list -- someone has to complete some action to add an address to the list. Then there is surprise when email shows up, so one has to wonder about the mental acuity of some people.
Bruce in Blacksburg KB4GIW
chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 15:53:18 -0500, Ryan Tourge ryan.tourge@gmail.com wrote:
subscribe
*SPLORF*
mdr
Charles J. Hargrove wrote:
And the solution is what, putting unsubscribe links between every paragraph?
If a list owner wants the subscriber to see how to unsubscribe, a direct link must be put in the message footer.
On Wed, February 4, 2015 12:43 pm, John Rice wrote:
The fact that the unsubscribe information is in the header, for a mailing list, is irrelevant in todays world. Todays email user has absolutely no knowledge of email headers or even how to find them. If a list owner wants the subscriber to see how to unsubscribe, a direct link must be put in the message footer.
Yeah, those of us that have been around for a long time know it's in the header, but then, those of us who have been around a long time know how to unsubscribe from a mailing list.
-- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.
NYC-ARECS/RACES Net Mon. @ 8:30PM 147.360/107.2 PL http://www.nyc-arecs.org and http://www.nyc-skywarn.org
NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM& USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB/1500 hz waterfall spot; Olivia 8/500 check-ins
"Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan
"The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus
"Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.)
"No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan
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On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 5:05 PM, DocBeattie wrote:
How in the world did you people get a ham license if you can't read?
The instructions to unsubscribe appear on every message list.
How did you get on this list in the first place?
Did someone hack your email and sign you up at random?
Or did you just do it yourself, picking some list at random and joining it without remembering it?
Just wondering.
Some of us aren't HAM operators. Besides, being a HAM operator doesn't automagically make you more intelligent. (have you seen the tech test lately?)
It has been standard practice for the last THIRTY+ years on about 99% of all mailing lists that UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message or the subject header did just that --- Unsubscribed ya.
Old habits die hard, that's all.
It has also been proper etiquette on a listserv for the last 30 years to only submit to the list if you have something to contribute. You aren't better than someone else just because you have a ticket.
You don't have to respond for the sake of responding.
If it truly bothered ya you'd ignore it and eventually they would figure it out.
R E L A X people.
-Tony
From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of DocBeattie . Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 5:05 PM To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: [chirp_users] How in the world . . . .
How in the world did you people get a ham license if you can't read?
The instructions to unsubscribe appear on every message list.
The majority of issues about chirp and your radio can be answered by reading either the radio's manual or the Q&A area of the web site.
Did some sit beside you giving you the answers on the license test?
Or, did you just pass your test by luck?
Just wondering.
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