[chirp_users] R-tone and C-tone
Hi, My local repeater uses 131.8 for a PL tone. I at one point had 88.5 in one place and 131.8 in the other. So I changed both to 131.8, and it seems that it should still work, but it isn't keying the repeater. I'm guessing the R in r-tone is for repeater, and the C in C-tone is CTCSS? Anyway, which one of these is the repeater wanting to hear to open up? Thanks.
Glenn A man with a clock always knows what time it is. A man with two clocks is never sure. -- A derivative of Segal's law
Your correct setting should be Tone Mode = TSQL - this sets CTCSS encode and decode. Tone = 131.8
To my mind, I find CHIRP's CTCSS/DCS configuration very clumsy. It takes up file columns to describe a very simple concept which could easily be covered in three columns.
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 at 19:34, K0LNY ?? glenn@ervin.email wrote:
Hi, My local repeater uses 131.8 for a PL tone. I at one point had 88.5 in one place and 131.8 in the other. So I changed both to 131.8, and it seems that it should still work, but it isn't keying the repeater. I'm guessing the R in r-tone is for repeater, and the C in C-tone is CTCSS? Anyway, which one of these is the repeater wanting to hear to open up? Thanks.
Glenn A man with a clock always knows what time it is. A man with two clocks is never sure. -- A derivative of Segal's law _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Tony Ling at tonyg7txu@gmail.com To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com To report this email as off-topic, please email chirp_users-owner@intrepid.danplanet.com Searchable archive: https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
Column 1 , CTCSS or DCS Column 2, Tx Encoding Column 3, Rx Decoding
In all my 30 years of PMR and amateur programming, I have only ever come across one system which did not use a different tone for Tx and Rx, let alone one which uses a combination of CTCSS / DCS for Tx and Rx. DCS is frankly not very good, which is why it was not widely used in the commercial world. It is prone to false triggering. DCS polarity is merely a numerical compliment and again, negative values are never used in practice.
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 at 19:42, Tony Ling tonyg7txu@gmail.com wrote:
Your correct setting should be Tone Mode = TSQL - this sets CTCSS encode and decode. Tone = 131.8
To my mind, I find CHIRP's CTCSS/DCS configuration very clumsy. It takes up file columns to describe a very simple concept which could easily be covered in three columns.
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 at 19:34, K0LNY ?? glenn@ervin.email wrote:
Hi, My local repeater uses 131.8 for a PL tone. I at one point had 88.5 in one place and 131.8 in the other. So I changed both to 131.8, and it seems that it should still work, but it isn't keying the repeater. I'm guessing the R in r-tone is for repeater, and the C in C-tone is CTCSS? Anyway, which one of these is the repeater wanting to hear to open up? Thanks.
Glenn A man with a clock always knows what time it is. A man with two clocks is never sure. -- A derivative of Segal's law _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Tony Ling at tonyg7txu@gmail.com To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com To report this email as off-topic, please email chirp_users-owner@intrepid.danplanet.com Searchable archive: https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
W0OFK on 146.73 (-600KHz) uses 131.8 on both TX and RX W0OFK on 444.250 (+5MHz) uses 88.5 on RX only.
That's how 88.5 was injected into the confusion, it's a different repeater.
You could use T (tone) with the right frequency for either. C (CTCSS) is optional.
73 Danny, K5CG HH 550-000-0609 SKCC 14257
From: "K0LNY ??" glenn@ervin.email To: "chirp users" chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 1:05:37 PM Subject: [chirp_users] R-tone and C-tone
Hi, My local repeater uses 131.8 for a PL tone. I at one point had 88.5 in one place and 131.8 in the other. So I changed both to 131.8, and it seems that it should still work, but it isn't keying the repeater. I'm guessing the R in r-tone is for repeater, and the C in C-tone is CTCSS? Anyway, which one of these is the repeater wanting to hear to open up? Thanks. Glenn A man with a clock always knows what time it is. A man with two clocks is never sure. -- A derivative of Segal's law
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