[chirp_users] Baofeng 888s cable issue
I have a couple of 888s UHF radios and the cable I have for them is coming up on COM 3 Problem is the radio goes into transmit when connected to the cable and turned on. The cable has worked on my UV-5R radios before but now also puts them into transmit. The only thing that has changed is i have gone to a laptop (Windows 10) to a desktop machine (Also Windows 10).
Any ideas?
Thanks! Ronny K4RJJ
Push the cable FIRMLY into the radio.
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On Nov 17, 2016, at 17:19, Ronny Julian k4rjjradio@gmail.com wrote:
I have a couple of 888s UHF radios and the cable I have for them is coming up on COM 3 Problem is the radio goes into transmit when connected to the cable and turned on. The cable has worked on my UV-5R radios before but now also puts them into transmit. The only thing that has changed is i have gone to a laptop (Windows 10) to a desktop machine (Also Windows 10).
Any ideas?
Thanks! Ronny K4RJJ
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On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Ronny Julian k4rjjradio@gmail.com wrote:
I have a couple of 888s UHF radios and the cable I have for them is coming up on COM 3 Problem is the radio goes into transmit when connected to the cable and turned on. The cable has worked on my UV-5R radios before but now also puts them into transmit. The only thing that has changed is i have gone to a laptop (Windows 10) to a desktop machine (Also Windows 10).
Any ideas?
Thanks! Ronny K4RJJ
This is a common problem. Your programming cable most likely has an unauthorized copy (aka counterfeit) Prolific chip in it. The driver auto installed by Windows for this chip is intentionally incompatible. You must download, install and select the older, but compatible, v3.2.0.0 driver.
http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_Drivers.php
I have several installed for testing cables, but keep the v3.2.0.0 driver selected most of the time because it works with genuine and not-so-genuine Prolific type chips.
Jim
Wish I could say that any of the above worked. I verified the driver version after the EXE installed it. Made sure the cable was plugged in tight. No difference. Tried 4 radios. All go to TX. I'll build a Linux box this weekend and see if that makes a difference. i planned on doing this anyway. I also have a different cable set on the way from an eBay seller.
Does anyone know an eBay seller that sells FTSDI cables that work well for kenwood, Moto, and maybe even midland? I have a Titan that needs a few added channels.
Thanks! Ronny K4RJJ
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Jim Unroe rock.unroe@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Ronny Julian k4rjjradio@gmail.com wrote:
I have a couple of 888s UHF radios and the cable I have for them is
coming
up on COM 3 Problem is the radio goes into transmit when connected to
the
cable and turned on. The cable has worked on my UV-5R radios before but
now
also puts them into transmit. The only thing that has changed is i have gone to a laptop (Windows 10) to a desktop machine (Also Windows 10).
Any ideas?
Thanks! Ronny K4RJJ
This is a common problem. Your programming cable most likely has an unauthorized copy (aka counterfeit) Prolific chip in it. The driver auto installed by Windows for this chip is intentionally incompatible. You must download, install and select the older, but compatible, v3.2.0.0 driver.
http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_Drivers.php
I have several installed for testing cables, but keep the v3.2.0.0 driver selected most of the time because it works with genuine and not-so-genuine Prolific type chips.
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On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Ronny Julian k4rjjradio@gmail.com wrote:
Wish I could say that any of the above worked. I verified the driver version after the EXE installed it. Made sure the cable was plugged in tight. No difference. Tried 4 radios. All go to TX. I'll build a Linux box this weekend and see if that makes a difference. i planned on doing this anyway. I also have a different cable set on the way from an eBay seller.
Did you got into Device manage to select v3.2.0.0 driver? I mostly use the Prolific type cables here had to downgrade the drivers in my Windows 7 64-bit desktop computer and my Windows 7 32-bit and Windows 10 64-bit virtual machines. It isn't hard to do once you get the hang of it.
Does anyone know an eBay seller that sells FTSDI cables that work well for kenwood, Moto, and maybe even midland? I have a Titan that needs a few added channels.
Just go to baofengtech.com and purchase their PC03 cable. It is a genuine FTDI cable and their checkout system will let you pay with PayPal.
Thanks! Ronny K4RJJ
Jim KC9HI
cables with ch340 chip work well plug and play. windows detects it and sets a working driver 273usd on aliexpress now (i paid 2.18) https://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB-Programming-Cable-with-CD-for-Baofeng-UV... i found one for 1.88 but dont know which chip https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-Portable-USB-Programming-Cable-Two-Way-...
you can save even more by buying ch340 or cp2102 chip boards for less than a dollar and solder 3.5mm and 2.5mm plugs taken from old earphones . check miklor.com for instructions https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-CH340-module-USB-to-TTL-CH340G... 0.6usd
2016-11-18 4:31 GMT+02:00 Jim Unroe rock.unroe@gmail.com:
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Ronny Julian k4rjjradio@gmail.com wrote:
Wish I could say that any of the above worked. I verified the driver version after the EXE installed it. Made sure the cable was plugged in tight. No difference. Tried 4 radios. All go to TX. I'll build a
Linux
box this weekend and see if that makes a difference. i planned on doing this anyway. I also have a different cable set on the way from an eBay seller.
Did you got into Device manage to select v3.2.0.0 driver? I mostly use the Prolific type cables here had to downgrade the drivers in my Windows 7 64-bit desktop computer and my Windows 7 32-bit and Windows 10 64-bit virtual machines. It isn't hard to do once you get the hang of it.
Does anyone know an eBay seller that sells FTSDI cables that work well
for
kenwood, Moto, and maybe even midland? I have a Titan that needs a few added channels.
Just go to baofengtech.com and purchase their PC03 cable. It is a genuine FTDI cable and their checkout system will let you pay with PayPal.
Thanks! Ronny K4RJJ
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Hi, s'cuse me butting in but.......
will these work under windoze 10 ?
I noticed that the webpage only mentioned xp, vista, 2000, win7 etc. in other words do you still have to use the backdated driver?
Garth, zl1 tue
On 11/18/2016 7:08 PM, Amnon Zohar wrote:
cables with ch340 chip work well plug and play. windows detects it and sets a working driver 273usd on aliexpress now (i paid 2.18) https://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB-Programming-Cable-with-CD-for-Baofeng-UV... i found one for 1.88 but dont know which chip https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-Portable-USB-Programming-Cable-Two-Way-...
you can save even more by buying ch340 or cp2102 chip boards for less than a dollar and solder 3.5mm and 2.5mm plugs taken from old earphones . check miklor.com http://miklor.com for instructions https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-CH340-module-USB-to-TTL-CH340G... 0.6usd
I use the CP2102 boards. Took my stock cables and retrofitted them.
Got rid of all the issues! Works on all versions of Windows including 10
On 11/18/2016 7:08 PM, Amnon Zohar wrote: cables with ch340 chip work well plug and play. windows detects it and sets a working driver
you can save even more by buying ch340 or cp2102 chip boards for less than a dollar and solder 3.5mm and 2.5mm plugs taken from old earphones . check miklor.com http://miklor.com for instructions
Definitely a Linux dog.
On 18 November 2016 at 16:15 Garth Robinson soundtek@vodafone.co.nz wrote:
Hi, s'cuse me butting in but.......
will these work under windoze 10 ?I noticed that the webpage only mentioned xp, vista, 2000, win7 etc. in other words do you still have to use the backdated driver?
Garth, zl1 tue
On 11/18/2016 7:08 PM, Amnon Zohar wrote:
cables with ch340 chip work well plug and play. windows detects it and sets a working driver 273usd on aliexpress now (i paid 2.18) https://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB-Programming-Cable-with-CD-for-Baofeng-UV... i found one for 1.88 but dont know which chip https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-Portable-USB-Programming-Cable-Two-Way-...
you can save even more by buying ch340 or cp2102 chip boards for less than a dollar and solder 3.5mm and 2.5mm plugs taken from old earphones . check miklor.com http://miklor.com for instructions https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-CH340-module-USB-to-TTL-CH340G...
0.6usd--
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On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Garth Robinson soundtek@vodafone.co.nz wrote:
Hi, s'cuse me butting in but.......
will these work under windoze 10 ?I noticed that the webpage only mentioned xp, vista, 2000, win7 etc. in other words do you still have to use the backdated driver?
Garth, zl1 tue
When using a Prolific type chip based programming cable with Windows, you might as well count on using the backdated driver because the majority of these chips are counterfeit. The device driver auto installed by Windows has been incompatible with counterfeit chips since around 2008. The backdated driver will work no matter if the chip is genuine or not.
V2.0.2.1: Windows XP V3.2.0.0: Windows Vista, 2000, 7, 8.x and 10
Both drivers can be obtained from links on the miklor.com website.
Jim KC9HI
Hi Jim,
..... so, how can one guarantee ( without dismantling the cable ) that there is a genuine chip within the cable? I'm even suspect of the Baofeng cables.
Garth. zl1tue ..... an still shakin'
On 11/19/2016 11:14 AM, Jim Unroe wrote:
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Garth Robinson soundtek@vodafone.co.nz wrote:
Hi, s'cuse me butting in but.......
will these work under windoze 10 ?I noticed that the webpage only mentioned xp, vista, 2000, win7 etc. in other words do you still have to use the backdated driver?
Garth, zl1 tue
When using a Prolific type chip based programming cable with Windows, you might as well count on using the backdated driver because the majority of these chips are counterfeit. The device driver auto installed by Windows has been incompatible with counterfeit chips since around 2008. The backdated driver will work no matter if the chip is genuine or not.
V2.0.2.1: Windows XP V3.2.0.0: Windows Vista, 2000, 7, 8.x and 10
Both drivers can be obtained from links on the miklor.com website.
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On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Garth Robinson soundtek@vodafone.co.nz wrote:
Hi Jim,
..... so, how can one guarantee ( without dismantling the cable ) that there is a genuine chip within the cable? I'm even suspect of the Baofeng cables.
Garth. zl1tue ..... an still shakin'
About 4 years ago I downloaded every version of Prolific driver for Windows I could find. I installed them one by one from the most recent to the oldest to find out exactly which driver was the absolute latest that would work with a counterfeit Prolific chip. The answer was v3.3.2.105. But although this driver works great with CHIRP, it is incompatible with most programming software written for Chinese radios.
So my testing continued. It wasn't until I got to the Prolific v3.2.0.0 driver that it would work with all of my programming software. And it works with the latest Prolific chips as well.
As you can see from the attached screen capture, I have 4 Prolific drivers installed in my Windows 7 64-bit computer. I can switch between these driver versions at will to determine if a Prolific type chip is genuine.
So if you have a programming cable with a Prolfic type chip, there is no need to test if it is genuine or not. Genuine Prolific chips are rare. Out of some 20+ Prolific type chip based cables that I have here, I only have 2 that know are genuine.
One came from a now out of business dealer. The description stated that it contained a genuine Prolfic chip. It cost $10 more than the non-genuine version that they also sold. The second came with (but was purchased separately) a Wouxun KG-UV6D V2 radio that I purchased from a USA dealer.
So if you run Windows XP or above, the non-destructive test to determine if the Prolific type chip in your programming cable is genuine is pretty simple. Plug it into the USB port and wait for the latest Prolific driver to install. Then try it out. then if it works (not likely) it has a genuine Prolific chip. If it doesn't work (very likely) it has a counterfeit chip.
But if you already have the programming cable, it is too late to worry about which type of Prolific chip is in it (genuine or counterfeit). Just download, install and select the older Prolific driver (it works for both).
v2.0.2.1 Windows XP v3.2.0.0 Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10
If the idea is to avoid the hassle of dealing with counterfeit Prolific type chips, then note the following.
A genuine Baofeng (the radio manufacturer based in China) programming cable is virtually guaranteed to have a counterfeit Prolific chip.
If the listing states that the programming cable only works with older versions of Windows or states that it does not work with the latest versions of Windows, it is a good bet that is will have a counterfeit Prolific chip. The same goes for listings where there is no mention of the chip the programming cable contains.
So the best thing to do to avoid the driver hassle is to look for a cable with an FTDI type chip. Even FTDI chips can be counterfeit, but even the counterfeit chips currently work with the latest available device drivers.
Although I mostly use Prolific type chips here, I do have some with genuine FTDI chips. My source for the last few has been Baofeng Tech (the radio dealer based in the USA).
Jim KC9HI
Jim,
I am like you, having numerous cables that have the fake chips in them. Once I learned what to do with them, through you and the Miklor site, it only takes about 2 minutes to roll back the driver, if I have to. When Windows 8 first came out, I spent 3-4 months fighting with cables not working. After learning what to do, I don't worry about it anymore. The nice thing is, is that I have cables for many different radios, but once you get the right driver installed, it works for all of them. I am not going to go out and spend money I don't have to, just to save me 2 minutes of work. I also do not have the skill set, tools, or time, to make my own cables out of earphones and some other chip.
I really do appreciate your testing the theories of why the cables are 'not compatible with Windows 10', etc. and coming up with the proper solution. It is just NOT THAT HARD TO DEAL WITH, when you know what to do.
Thank you.
Jardy Dawson WA7JRD Ham Radio
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On Nov 21, 2016, at 06:19, Jim Unroe rock.unroe@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Garth Robinson soundtek@vodafone.co.nz wrote:
Hi Jim,
..... so, how can one guarantee ( without dismantling the cable ) that there is a genuine chip within the cable? I'm even suspect of the Baofeng cables.
Garth. zl1tue ..... an still shakin'
About 4 years ago I downloaded every version of Prolific driver for Windows I could find. I installed them one by one from the most recent to the oldest to find out exactly which driver was the absolute latest that would work with a counterfeit Prolific chip. The answer was v3.3.2.105. But although this driver works great with CHIRP, it is incompatible with most programming software written for Chinese radios.
So my testing continued. It wasn't until I got to the Prolific v3.2.0.0 driver that it would work with all of my programming software. And it works with the latest Prolific chips as well.
As you can see from the attached screen capture, I have 4 Prolific drivers installed in my Windows 7 64-bit computer. I can switch between these driver versions at will to determine if a Prolific type chip is genuine.
So if you have a programming cable with a Prolfic type chip, there is no need to test if it is genuine or not. Genuine Prolific chips are rare. Out of some 20+ Prolific type chip based cables that I have here, I only have 2 that know are genuine.
One came from a now out of business dealer. The description stated that it contained a genuine Prolfic chip. It cost $10 more than the non-genuine version that they also sold. The second came with (but was purchased separately) a Wouxun KG-UV6D V2 radio that I purchased from a USA dealer.
So if you run Windows XP or above, the non-destructive test to determine if the Prolific type chip in your programming cable is genuine is pretty simple. Plug it into the USB port and wait for the latest Prolific driver to install. Then try it out. then if it works (not likely) it has a genuine Prolific chip. If it doesn't work (very likely) it has a counterfeit chip.
But if you already have the programming cable, it is too late to worry about which type of Prolific chip is in it (genuine or counterfeit). Just download, install and select the older Prolific driver (it works for both).
v2.0.2.1 Windows XP v3.2.0.0 Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10
If the idea is to avoid the hassle of dealing with counterfeit Prolific type chips, then note the following.
A genuine Baofeng (the radio manufacturer based in China) programming cable is virtually guaranteed to have a counterfeit Prolific chip.
If the listing states that the programming cable only works with older versions of Windows or states that it does not work with the latest versions of Windows, it is a good bet that is will have a counterfeit Prolific chip. The same goes for listings where there is no mention of the chip the programming cable contains.
So the best thing to do to avoid the driver hassle is to look for a cable with an FTDI type chip. Even FTDI chips can be counterfeit, but even the counterfeit chips currently work with the latest available device drivers.
Although I mostly use Prolific type chips here, I do have some with genuine FTDI chips. My source for the last few has been Baofeng Tech (the radio dealer based in the USA).
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The only cables I buy are from RTSYSTEMS. They work every time. Yes they cost more but you go cheap you buy problems .
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On Monday, November 21, 2016 Jardy Dawson via chirp_users chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com wrote:
Jim,
I am like you, having numerous cables that have the fake chips in them. Once I learned what to do with them, through you and the Miklor site, it only takes about 2 minutes to roll back the driver, if I have to. When Windows 8 first came out, I spent 3-4 months fighting with cables not working. After learning what to do, I don't worry about it anymore. The nice thing is, is that I have cables for many different radios, but once you get the right driver installed, it works for all of them. I am not going to go out and spend money I don't have to, just to save me 2 minutes of work. I also do not have the skill set, tools, or time, to make my own cables out of earphones and some other chip.
I really do appreciate your testing the theories of why the cables are 'not compatible with Windows 10', etc. and coming up with the proper solution. It is just NOT THAT HARD TO DEAL WITH, when you know what to do.
Thank you.
Jardy Dawson
WA7JRD Ham Radio
Message relayed from secret Hillary Clinton server, located in the basement of her house. OOPS, you aren't supposed to know that!
On Nov 21, 2016, at 06:19, Jim Unroe rock.unroe@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Garth Robinson soundtek@vodafone.co.nz wrote:
Hi Jim,
..... so, how can one guarantee ( without dismantling the cable ) that there
is a genuine chip within the cable? I'm even suspect of the Baofeng cables.
Garth. zl1tue ..... an still shakin'
About 4 years ago I downloaded every version of Prolific driver for Windows I could find. I installed them one by one from the most recent to the oldest to find out exactly which driver was the absolute latest that would work with a counterfeit Prolific chip. The answer was v3.3.2.105. But although this driver works great with CHIRP, it is incompatible with most programming software written for Chinese radios.
So my testing continued. It wasn't until I got to the Prolific v3.2.0.0 driver that it would work with all of my programming software. And it works with the latest Prolific chips as well.
As you can see from the attached screen capture, I have 4 Prolific drivers installed in my Windows 7 64-bit computer. I can switch between these driver versions at will to determine if a Prolific type chip is genuine.
So if you have a programming cable with a Prolfic type chip, there is no need to test if it is genuine or not. Genuine Prolific chips are rare. Out of some 20+ Prolific type chip based cables that I have here, I only have 2 that know are genuine.
One came from a now out of business dealer. The description stated that it contained a genuine Prolfic chip. It cost $10 more than the non-genuine version that they also sold. The second came with (but was purchased separately) a Wouxun KG-UV6D V2 radio that I purchased from a USA dealer.
So if you run Windows XP or above, the non-destructive test to determine if the Prolific type chip in your programming cable is genuine is pretty simple. Plug it into the USB port and wait for the latest Prolific driver to install. Then try it out. then if it works (not likely) it has a genuine Prolific chip. If it doesn't work (very likely) it has a counterfeit chip.
But if you already have the programming cable, it is too late to worry about which type of Prolific chip is in it (genuine or counterfeit). Just download, install and select the older Prolific driver (it works for both).
v2.0.2.1 Windows XP v3.2.0.0 Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10
If the idea is to avoid the hassle of dealing with counterfeit Prolific type chips, then note the following.
A genuine Baofeng (the radio manufacturer based in China) programming cable is virtually guaranteed to have a counterfeit Prolific chip.
If the listing states that the programming cable only works with older versions of Windows or states that it does not work with the latest versions of Windows, it is a good bet that is will have a counterfeit Prolific chip. The same goes for listings where there is no mention of the chip the programming cable contains.
So the best thing to do to avoid the driver hassle is to look for a cable with an FTDI type chip. Even FTDI chips can be counterfeit, but even the counterfeit chips currently work with the latest available device drivers.
Although I mostly use Prolific type chips here, I do have some with genuine FTDI chips. My source for the last few has been Baofeng Tech (the radio dealer based in the USA).
Jim KC9HI
<ProlificDrivers2.jpg>
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Since I deal with many radios, I actually prefer the Prolific type chip. It has the advantage that once a USB port is setup with the older, compatible with all Prolific chips, driver, I can plug in any one of my Prolific chip bases programming cables and it will always have the same COM port assigned to it.
By default, each FTDI based programming cable gets it's own separate COM port (something else I would have to keep track of). I know there is a Windows registry hack that can be done so that FTDI cables will behave the same way, but I haven't bothered since all of my radios have at least 1 Prolific chip based programming cable and only a very few radios have FTDI based programming cables.
Jim
Great email Jim. Any chances you can turn this into a FAQ answer on the Chirp wiki?
--David KI6ZHD
On 11/21/2016 06:19 AM, Jim Unroe wrote:
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Garth Robinson soundtek@vodafone.co.nz wrote:
Hi Jim,
..... so, how can one guarantee ( without dismantling the cable ) that there is a genuine chip within the cable? I'm even suspect of the Baofeng cables.
Garth. zl1tue ..... an still shakin'
About 4 years ago I downloaded every version of Prolific driver for Windows I could find. I installed them one by one from the most recent to the oldest to find out exactly which driver was the absolute latest that would work with a counterfeit Prolific chip. The answer was v3.3.2.105. But although this driver works great with CHIRP, it is incompatible with most programming software written for Chinese radios.
So my testing continued. It wasn't until I got to the Prolific v3.2.0.0 driver that it would work with all of my programming software. And it works with the latest Prolific chips as well.
As you can see from the attached screen capture, I have 4 Prolific drivers installed in my Windows 7 64-bit computer. I can switch between these driver versions at will to determine if a Prolific type chip is genuine.
So if you have a programming cable with a Prolfic type chip, there is no need to test if it is genuine or not. Genuine Prolific chips are rare. Out of some 20+ Prolific type chip based cables that I have here, I only have 2 that know are genuine.
One came from a now out of business dealer. The description stated that it contained a genuine Prolfic chip. It cost $10 more than the non-genuine version that they also sold. The second came with (but was purchased separately) a Wouxun KG-UV6D V2 radio that I purchased from a USA dealer.
So if you run Windows XP or above, the non-destructive test to determine if the Prolific type chip in your programming cable isHey genuine is pretty simple. Plug it into the USB port and wait for the latest Prolific driver to install. Then try it out. then if it works (not likely) it has a genuine Prolific chip. If it doesn't work (very likely) it has a counterfeit chip.
But if you already have the programming cable, it is too late to worry about which type of Prolific chip is in it (genuine or counterfeit). Just download, install and select the older Prolific driver (it works for both).
v2.0.2.1 Windows XP v3.2.0.0 Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10
If the idea is to avoid the hassle of dealing with counterfeit Prolific type chips, then note the following.
A genuine Baofeng (the radio manufacturer based in China) programming cable is virtually guaranteed to have a counterfeit Prolific chip.
If the listing states that the programming cable only works with older versions of Windows or states that it does not work with the latest versions of Windows, it is a good bet that is will have a counterfeit Prolific chip. The same goes for listings where there is no mention of the chip the programming cable contains.
So the best thing to do to avoid the driver hassle is to look for a cable with an FTDI type chip. Even FTDI chips can be counterfeit, but even the counterfeit chips currently work with the latest available device drivers.
Although I mostly use Prolific type chips here, I do have some with genuine FTDI chips. My source for the last few has been Baofeng Tech (the radio dealer based in the USA).
Jim KC9HI
I bought cheap no problem. Price gap worth the risk (to my mind)
בתאריך 21 בנוב' 2016 6:22 PM, "David Ranch" chirp@trinnet.net כתב:
Great email Jim. Any chances you can turn this into a FAQ answer on the Chirp wiki?
--David KI6ZHD
On 11/21/2016 06:19 AM, Jim Unroe wrote:
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Garth Robinsonsoundtek@vodafone.co.nz soundtek@vodafone.co.nz wrote:
Hi Jim,
..... so, how can one guarantee ( without dismantling the cable ) that there is a genuine chip within the cable? I'm even suspect of the Baofeng cables.
Garth. zl1tue ..... an still shakin'
About 4 years ago I downloaded every version of Prolific driver for Windows I could find. I installed them one by one from the most recent to the oldest to find out exactly which driver was the absolute latest that would work with a counterfeit Prolific chip. The answer was v3.3.2.105. But although this driver works great with CHIRP, it is incompatible with most programming software written for Chinese radios.
So my testing continued. It wasn't until I got to the Prolific v3.2.0.0 driver that it would work with all of my programming software. And it works with the latest Prolific chips as well.
As you can see from the attached screen capture, I have 4 Prolific drivers installed in my Windows 7 64-bit computer. I can switch between these driver versions at will to determine if a Prolific type chip is genuine.
So if you have a programming cable with a Prolfic type chip, there is no need to test if it is genuine or not. Genuine Prolific chips are rare. Out of some 20+ Prolific type chip based cables that I have here, I only have 2 that know are genuine.
One came from a now out of business dealer. The description stated that it contained a genuine Prolfic chip. It cost $10 more than the non-genuine version that they also sold. The second came with (but was purchased separately) a Wouxun KG-UV6D V2 radio that I purchased from a USA dealer.
So if you run Windows XP or above, the non-destructive test to determine if the Prolific type chip in your programming cable isHey genuine is pretty simple. Plug it into the USB port and wait for the latest Prolific driver to install. Then try it out. then if it works (not likely) it has a genuine Prolific chip. If it doesn't work (very likely) it has a counterfeit chip.
But if you already have the programming cable, it is too late to worry about which type of Prolific chip is in it (genuine or counterfeit). Just download, install and select the older Prolific driver (it works for both).
v2.0.2.1 Windows XP v3.2.0.0 Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10
If the idea is to avoid the hassle of dealing with counterfeit Prolific type chips, then note the following.
A genuine Baofeng (the radio manufacturer based in China) programming cable is virtually guaranteed to have a counterfeit Prolific chip.
If the listing states that the programming cable only works with older versions of Windows or states that it does not work with the latest versions of Windows, it is a good bet that is will have a counterfeit Prolific chip. The same goes for listings where there is no mention of the chip the programming cable contains.
So the best thing to do to avoid the driver hassle is to look for a cable with an FTDI type chip. Even FTDI chips can be counterfeit, but even the counterfeit chips currently work with the latest available device drivers.
Although I mostly use Prolific type chips here, I do have some with genuine FTDI chips. My source for the last few has been Baofeng Tech (the radio dealer based in the USA).
Jim KC9HI
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High price of the "good" cables are actualy a rip off!
בתאריך 21 בנוב' 2016 6:25 PM, "Amnon Zohar" amnon.zohar@gmail.com כתב:
I bought cheap no problem. Price gap worth the risk (to my mind)
בתאריך 21 בנוב' 2016 6:22 PM, "David Ranch" chirp@trinnet.net כתב:
Great email Jim. Any chances you can turn this into a FAQ answer on the Chirp wiki?
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On 11/21/2016 06:19 AM, Jim Unroe wrote:
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Garth Robinsonsoundtek@vodafone.co.nz soundtek@vodafone.co.nz wrote:
Hi Jim,
..... so, how can one guarantee ( without dismantling the cable ) that there is a genuine chip within the cable? I'm even suspect of the Baofeng cables.
Garth. zl1tue ..... an still shakin'
About 4 years ago I downloaded every version of Prolific driver for Windows I could find. I installed them one by one from the most recent to the oldest to find out exactly which driver was the absolute latest that would work with a counterfeit Prolific chip. The answer was v3.3.2.105. But although this driver works great with CHIRP, it is incompatible with most programming software written for Chinese radios.
So my testing continued. It wasn't until I got to the Prolific v3.2.0.0 driver that it would work with all of my programming software. And it works with the latest Prolific chips as well.
As you can see from the attached screen capture, I have 4 Prolific drivers installed in my Windows 7 64-bit computer. I can switch between these driver versions at will to determine if a Prolific type chip is genuine.
So if you have a programming cable with a Prolfic type chip, there is no need to test if it is genuine or not. Genuine Prolific chips are rare. Out of some 20+ Prolific type chip based cables that I have here, I only have 2 that know are genuine.
One came from a now out of business dealer. The description stated that it contained a genuine Prolfic chip. It cost $10 more than the non-genuine version that they also sold. The second came with (but was purchased separately) a Wouxun KG-UV6D V2 radio that I purchased from a USA dealer.
So if you run Windows XP or above, the non-destructive test to determine if the Prolific type chip in your programming cable isHey genuine is pretty simple. Plug it into the USB port and wait for the latest Prolific driver to install. Then try it out. then if it works (not likely) it has a genuine Prolific chip. If it doesn't work (very likely) it has a counterfeit chip.
But if you already have the programming cable, it is too late to worry about which type of Prolific chip is in it (genuine or counterfeit). Just download, install and select the older Prolific driver (it works for both).
v2.0.2.1 Windows XP v3.2.0.0 Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10
If the idea is to avoid the hassle of dealing with counterfeit Prolific type chips, then note the following.
A genuine Baofeng (the radio manufacturer based in China) programming cable is virtually guaranteed to have a counterfeit Prolific chip.
If the listing states that the programming cable only works with older versions of Windows or states that it does not work with the latest versions of Windows, it is a good bet that is will have a counterfeit Prolific chip. The same goes for listings where there is no mention of the chip the programming cable contains.
So the best thing to do to avoid the driver hassle is to look for a cable with an FTDI type chip. Even FTDI chips can be counterfeit, but even the counterfeit chips currently work with the latest available device drivers.
Although I mostly use Prolific type chips here, I do have some with genuine FTDI chips. My source for the last few has been Baofeng Tech (the radio dealer based in the USA).
Jim KC9HI
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I would suggest buying BaoFeng stuff from BaoFeng Tech (on Amazon) . They are a US company and will back up their products in the US. The cable you need is at https://www.amazon.com/Authentic-Genuine-Programming-Cable-BaoFeng/dp/B00HUB... There is also a "red cable" that works but I forgot what brand it is. The market was flooded with counterfeit chips so the manufacturers changed the chip and programming so that the old chips don't work. Expect to pay $20+. The $10 ones probably won't work without finding an old driver. I used the BF-Tech one with Windows 10 a few days ago with CHIRP and it worked fine, no problems. One tip: CHIRP prompts you to save your setup. When I went to the saved file (an .img file) and clicked on it, it said "the file is corrupted". After a couple of frustrating hours I tried opening the saved file by clicking on 'file', 'open' in the CHIRP program, and the saved image file opened OK.
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Garth Robinson soundtek@vodafone.co.nz wrote:
Hi Jim,
..... so, how can one guarantee ( without dismantling the cable ) that there is a genuine chip within the cable? I'm even suspect of the Baofeng cables.
Garth. zl1tue ..... an still shakin'
On 11/19/2016 11:14 AM, Jim Unroe wrote:
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Garth Robinson soundtek@vodafone.co.nz soundtek@vodafone.co.nz wrote:
Hi, s'cuse me butting in but.......
will these work under windoze 10 ?I noticed that the webpage only mentioned xp, vista, 2000, win7 etc. in other words do you still have to use the backdated driver?
Garth, zl1 tue
When using a Prolific type chip based programming cable with Windows, you might as well count on using the backdated driver because the majority of these chips are counterfeit. The device driver auto installed by Windows has been incompatible with counterfeit chips since around 2008. The backdated driver will work no matter if the chip is genuine or not.
V2.0.2.1: Windows XP V3.2.0.0: Windows Vista, 2000, 7, 8.x and 10
Both drivers can be obtained from links on the miklor.com website.
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Kent,
problems. One tip: CHIRP prompts you to save your setup. When I went to the saved file (an .img file) and clicked on it, it said "the file is corrupted". After a couple of frustrating hours I tried opening the saved file by clicking on 'file', 'open' in the CHIRP program, and the saved image file opened OK.
By default Windows associates the ".img" extension with CD burning software. So when you double-click a saved CHIRP Radio Images (*.img) file, Window tries to load it into that CD burning software (for which that software the file being loaded is truly corrupt). You either have to load it from within CHIRP (like you did) or change the association of the ".img" extension to CHIRP so you can double-click on it to load it into CHIRP by default (but then you won't be able to double-click on CD "image" files) to automatically load then into the CD burning software.
Jim KC9HI
Also, a right-click, or applications key on the file will give you "open with" and that gives you program options, and if you have to browse to Chirp, it will only need to be done once, because it will be in the "open with" list next time. HTH. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Unroe" rock.unroe@gmail.com To: "Discussion of CHIRP" chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng 888s cable issue
Kent,
problems. One tip: CHIRP prompts you to save your setup. When I went to the saved file (an .img file) and clicked on it, it said "the file is corrupted". After a couple of frustrating hours I tried opening the saved file by clicking on 'file', 'open' in the CHIRP program, and the saved image file opened OK.
By default Windows associates the ".img" extension with CD burning software. So when you double-click a saved CHIRP Radio Images (*.img) file, Window tries to load it into that CD burning software (for which that software the file being loaded is truly corrupt). You either have to load it from within CHIRP (like you did) or change the association of the ".img" extension to CHIRP so you can double-click on it to load it into CHIRP by default (but then you won't be able to double-click on CD "image" files) to automatically load then into the CD burning software.
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No real way to know.
Even if you were to dismantle the cable, the chip is probably marked as the real thing.
One of the reasons that there are so many fakes is that they get into the distribution system so that even manufactures that want to use real chips may fail.
On 11/20/2016 7:37 PM, Garth Robinson wrote:
Hi Jim,
..... so, how can one guarantee ( without dismantling the cable ) that there is a genuine chip within the cable? I'm even suspect of the Baofeng cables.
Garth. zl1tue ..... an still shakin'
On 11/19/2016 11:14 AM, Jim Unroe wrote:
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Garth Robinsonsoundtek@vodafone.co.nz wrote:
Hi, s'cuse me butting in but.......
will these work under windoze 10 ?I noticed that the webpage only mentioned xp, vista, 2000, win7 etc. in other words do you still have to use the backdated driver?
Garth, zl1 tue
When using a Prolific type chip based programming cable with Windows, you might as well count on using the backdated driver because the majority of these chips are counterfeit. The device driver auto installed by Windows has been incompatible with counterfeit chips since around 2008. The backdated driver will work no matter if the chip is genuine or not.
V2.0.2.1: Windows XP V3.2.0.0: Windows Vista, 2000, 7, 8.x and 10
Both drivers can be obtained from links on the miklor.com website.
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Couple ways I would think. Download the FTDI software (ok this goes back a few years when I was doing hardware design with USB) and it should report back the version of the chip. Look at the properties of your device, the VID (vendor ID) and PID (product ID). That's what the driver uses to determine what its talking to, that's sorta how plug n play works...how it knows what driver to load. So by knowing what com port your plugged into, goto details tab of the device under the control panel->system -> and device manager. Depending on what OS your running....but none the less find the device manager.
This is what mine shows. This cable programs any of the radios I've tried with it.
[cid:image004.jpg@01D24401.FBFB1D40]
Then if you want to know who's VID it really is
http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids
and it shows the VID of 067b belongs to prolific and the PID of 2303 is a PL2303 serial port.
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No real way to know.
Even if you were to dismantle the cable, the chip is probably marked as the real thing.
One of the reasons that there are so many fakes is that they get into the distribution system so that even manufactures that want to use real chips may fail.
On 11/20/2016 7:37 PM, Garth Robinson wrote:
Hi Jim,
..... so, how can one guarantee ( without dismantling the cable ) that there is a genuine chip within the cable? I'm even suspect of the Baofeng cables.
Garth. zl1tue ..... an still shakin'
On 11/19/2016 11:14 AM, Jim Unroe wrote:
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Garth Robinson soundtek@vodafone.co.nzmailto:soundtek@vodafone.co.nz wrote:
Hi, s'cuse me butting in but.......
will these work under windoze 10 ?
I noticed that the webpage only mentioned xp, vista, 2000, win7 etc. in
other words do you still have to use the backdated driver?
Garth, zl1 tue
When using a Prolific type chip based programming cable with Windows,
you might as well count on using the backdated driver because the
majority of these chips are counterfeit. The device driver auto
installed by Windows has been incompatible with counterfeit chips
since around 2008. The backdated driver will work no matter if the
chip is genuine or not.
V2.0.2.1: Windows XP
V3.2.0.0: Windows Vista, 2000, 7, 8.x and 10
Both drivers can be obtained from links on the miklor.com website.
Jim KC9HI
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I just had that happen with a new USB cable. Was pushed in plenty far but it put the UV5R into transmit. As soon as I told chirp to read the radio, it came out of transmit and read the radio just fine. Then I made changes and wrote back to the radio with no problem.
I turned the radio off and back on and it went back into transmit. Something strange with that cable..
On 11/17/2016 7:19 PM, Ronny Julian wrote:
I have a couple of 888s UHF radios and the cable I have for them is coming up on COM 3 Problem is the radio goes into transmit when connected to the cable and turned on. The cable has worked on my UV-5R radios before but now also puts them into transmit. The only thing that has changed is i have gone to a laptop (Windows 10) to a desktop machine (Also Windows 10).
Any ideas?
Thanks! Ronny K4RJJ
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