From: Drew Einhorn <drew.einhorn@gmail.com mailto:drew.einhorn@gmail.com>
The point is to make it easier for licensed folks to avoid mistakes that violate the law, not to make it impossible for folks who intend to violate the law.
It's easy to accidentally press the TX button. I would prefer to easily configure the radio to limit the damages. Duplex off is nice. But, I'd prefer to set my country to US and license to Amateur Technician and automatically have Duplex set correctly for all frequencies outside the amateur bands.
From: John Wilkerson <jl_wilkerson@att.net mailto:jl_wilkerson@att.net>
The suggestions should be posted at the Chirp website, if you'd ever want them considered.
If sounds like you’re requesting more of an additive template system with importable sets of preference templates based on license/region/organization that only overwrite specified fields, or open a new document with those fields set. This would allow you to save different presets in groups for different use cases/clients as well as combine sets (with the latest template added taking precedence). For instance that would allow a person to start with a “Technician,” “Extra,” template overlay a “CARLA region set” of channels, and then import their groups sets. Numerical collisions could either automatically add to the end or give the user a remap to # option per channel or per group. That system could be group sourced, and maintain the flexibility for an infinite number of use cases.
From: David <weather@lightingunlimited.com mailto:weather@lightingunlimited.com>
What is MediaWiki?
From: Drew Einhorn <drew.einhorn@gmail.com mailto:drew.einhorn@gmail.com>
MediaWiki is the very powerful wiki software that runs the Wikipedia and many other well-known wikis. It is not the easiest to work with, but it can do just about anything wiki related, and do it well. Casual users are frequently overwhelmed by its complexity. So, it is often not the best choice.
I’ve been running a MediaWiki installation for over 10 years now. While MediaWiki is great for crowdsource, for file exchange, security & safety can be problematic. Instead I would probably crowdsource templates, suggested above, on github.
For crowdsourced information, MediaWiki is great. Setup complexity is dependent on your server environment. For some it’s as simple as downloading a package and running the setup wizard, while for others it’s compiling from source, etc. If you need advice, I’d be happy to help.
Thanks for Chirp.
Mike KF6FGE
Hi
Could someone enlighten me as to what CARLA is please?
Thanks
Wenlock VK3YWB
Sent from my iPhone
On 13 Mar 2017, at 15:38, M Noivad <noivad@mac.commailto:noivad@mac.com> wrote:
From: Drew Einhorn <drew.einhorn@gmail.commailto:drew.einhorn@gmail.com> The point is to make it easier for licensed folks to avoid mistakes that violate the law, not to make it impossible for folks who intend to violate the law.
It's easy to accidentally press the TX button. I would prefer to easily configure the radio to limit the damages. Duplex off is nice. But, I'd prefer to set my country to US and license to Amateur Technician and automatically have Duplex set correctly for all frequencies outside the amateur bands.
From: John Wilkerson <jl_wilkerson@att.netmailto:jl_wilkerson@att.net> The suggestions should be posted at the Chirp website, if you'd ever want them considered.
If sounds like you’re requesting more of an additive template system with importable sets of preference templates based on license/region/organization that only overwrite specified fields, or open a new document with those fields set. This would allow you to save different presets in groups for different use cases/clients as well as combine sets (with the latest template added taking precedence). For instance that would allow a person to start with a “Technician,” “Extra,” template overlay a “CARLA region set” of channels, and then import their groups sets. Numerical collisions could either automatically add to the end or give the user a remap to # option per channel or per group. That system could be group sourced, and maintain the flexibility for an infinite number of use cases.
From: David <weather@lightingunlimited.commailto:weather@lightingunlimited.com> What is MediaWiki?
From: Drew Einhorn <drew.einhorn@gmail.commailto:drew.einhorn@gmail.com> MediaWiki is the very powerful wiki software that runs the Wikipedia and many other well-known wikis. It is not the easiest to work with, but it can do just about anything wiki related, and do it well. Casual users are frequently overwhelmed by its complexity. So, it is often not the best choice.
I’ve been running a MediaWiki installation for over 10 years now. While MediaWiki is great for crowdsource, for file exchange, security & safety can be problematic. Instead I would probably crowdsource templates, suggested above, on github.
For crowdsourced information, MediaWiki is great. Setup complexity is dependent on your server environment. For some it’s as simple as downloading a package and running the setup wizard, while for others it’s compiling from source, etc. If you need advice, I’d be happy to help.
Thanks for Chirp.
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Mike,
Obviously, you have a lot of relevant experience. Before even trying to understand your suggestions I am going to have to google things like "CARLA region sets" and "GitHub templates".
Even though it's my idea. I'm not sure implementing it is worth the trouble. Especially, since someone said the "Duplex off" does not work on most radios. If it's true it's a show stopper.
But, it sounds like you are saying if you use the right templating tools it may not be that much trouble.
I don't want to think about the phrase "infinite number of use cases". I have enough trouble with just one.
I suggested MediaWiki as a possibility because I know it can handle crowdsourcing tables that describe license, region, organization, frequency, modes, etc.
I've never looked at the parts of GitHub you are discussing. Googling "github templates" returns a whole lot of stuff that does not appear to be what you are talking about.
On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 10:38 PM M Noivad noivad@mac.com wrote:
From: Drew Einhorn drew.einhorn@gmail.com
The point is to make it easier for licensed folks to avoid mistakes that violate the law, not to make it impossible for folks who intend to violate the law.
It's easy to accidentally press the TX button. I would prefer to easily configure the radio to limit the damages. Duplex off is nice. But, I'd prefer to set my country to US and license to Amateur Technician and automatically have Duplex set correctly for all frequencies outside the amateur bands.
From: John Wilkerson jl_wilkerson@att.net
The suggestions should be posted at the Chirp website, if you'd ever want them considered.
If sounds like you’re requesting more of an additive template system with importable sets of preference templates based on license/region/organization that only overwrite specified fields, or open a new document with those fields set. This would allow you to save different presets in groups for different use cases/clients as well as combine sets (with the latest template added taking precedence). For instance that would allow a person to start with a “Technician,” “Extra,” template overlay a “CARLA region set” of channels, and then import their groups sets. Numerical collisions could either automatically add to the end or give the user a remap to # option per channel or per group. That system could be group sourced, and maintain the flexibility for an infinite number of use cases.
From: David weather@lightingunlimited.com
What is MediaWiki?
From: Drew Einhorn drew.einhorn@gmail.com
MediaWiki is the very powerful wiki software that runs the Wikipedia and many other well-known wikis. It is not the easiest to work with, but it can do just about anything wiki related, and do it well. Casual users are frequently overwhelmed by its complexity. So, it is often not the best choice.
I’ve been running a MediaWiki installation for over 10 years now. While MediaWiki is great for crowdsource, for file exchange, security & safety can be problematic. Instead I would probably crowdsource templates, suggested above, on github.
For crowdsourced information, MediaWiki is great. Setup complexity is dependent on your server environment. For some it’s as simple as downloading a package and running the setup wizard, while for others it’s compiling from source, etc. If you need advice, I’d be happy to help.
Thanks for Chirp.
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Greets again,
i have the above, i reading and writing and playing with it in chirp... chrip writes ok, but the radio shows no programed mems.
i add a few mems to radio manually ok. but then read radio into chirp, but no mems are copied. am i missing something
thanks
Did you create an initial template for your radio? CHIRP supports over 160 various models and requires a template from your radio to know what format too use. Refer to item (1.1) at http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php
John
From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Neil B Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 1:41 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: [chirp_users] purchase of a leixon vv-898s - memories
Greets again,
i have the above, i reading and writing and playing with it in chirp... chrip writes ok, but the radio shows no programed mems.
i add a few mems to radio manually ok. but then read radio into chirp, but no mems are copied. am i missing something
thanks
i did yes. but with a lot of playing, it just had empy mem slots.
i am programming it with the silly software it came with but even when thats written ok to radio and used, when read ok in chirp, no mems.
________________________________ From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com on behalf of John LaMartina JohnLa@usa.net Sent: 13 March 2017 18:10 To: 'Discussion of CHIRP' Subject: Re: [chirp_users] purchase of a leixon vv-898s - memories
Did you create an initial template for your radio? CHIRP supports over 160 various models and requires a template from your radio to know what format too use. Refer to item (1.1) at http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php
CHIRP Programming - Miklorhttp://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php www.miklor.com 1.3 : How often should I update CHIRP NEW CHIRP users should always start with CHIRP's Latest Daily Build. 1. If you only have one radio and CHIRP works to your ...
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From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Neil B Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 1:41 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: [chirp_users] purchase of a leixon vv-898s - memories
Greets again,
i have the above, i reading and writing and playing with it in chirp... chrip writes ok, but the radio shows no programed mems.
i add a few mems to radio manually ok. but then read radio into chirp, but no mems are copied. am i missing something
thanks
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Neil B ne.b@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
i did yes. but with a lot of playing, it just had empy mem slots.
i am programming it with the silly software it came with but even when thats written ok to radio and used, when read ok in chirp, no mems.
I don't remember what the difference is between the S and E models, but I think it changes the way the channels are stored in the radio. Have you tried reading the radio with the VV-898E to see if the channels are retrieved?
Jim
i did try that but made no diference.
i play a bit more today, now i programs 30 memorys with its own programmer, i read in chirp and memorys read randomly into random locations on each download.
i now fine i think mine is a newer varient? a 898st. not sure what the 't' gives me, but that could be a prob.
i think the radio is odd. in operation, the 199 memorys are NOT shared between a or b. each has its own set of 99.
it seels a poor radio compaired to the likes of the other cheapos as the baofengs that i have found very good like the big 3 i/k/y lot.
________________________________ From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com on behalf of Jim Unroe rock.unroe@gmail.com Sent: 13 March 2017 21:22 To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] purchase of a leixon vv-898s - memories
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Neil B ne.b@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
i did yes. but with a lot of playing, it just had empy mem slots.
i am programming it with the silly software it came with but even when thats written ok to radio and used, when read ok in chirp, no mems.
I don't remember what the difference is between the S and E models, but I think it changes the way the channels are stored in the radio. Have you tried reading the radio with the VV-898E to see if the channels are retrieved?
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Hey Neil,
Try downloading using the Jetstream JT-270mh profile. That includes support for the dual-bank a/b system that the newer firmware 898 uses.
I think we need to add some extra aliases around this, because it's very non-obvious which profile you need to use. If nothing else, there are bits in the download that indicate firmware version and we could provide a check and warning message when the wrong one is used on this series of radios.
-- Brian
On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 1:18 AM, Neil B ne.b@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
i did try that but made no diference.
i play a bit more today, now i programs 30 memorys with its own programmer, i read in chirp and memorys read randomly into random locations on each download.
i now fine i think mine is a newer varient? a 898st. not sure what the 't' gives me, but that could be a prob.
i think the radio is odd. in operation, the 199 memorys are NOT shared between a or b. each has its own set of 99.
it seels a poor radio compaired to the likes of the other cheapos as the baofengs that i have found very good like the big 3 i/k/y lot.
*From:* chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com < chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com> on behalf of Jim Unroe < rock.unroe@gmail.com> *Sent:* 13 March 2017 21:22 *To:* Discussion of CHIRP *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] purchase of a leixon vv-898s - memories
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Neil B ne.b@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
i did yes. but with a lot of playing, it just had empy mem slots.
i am programming it with the silly software it came with but even when
thats
written ok to radio and used, when read ok in chirp, no mems.
I don't remember what the difference is between the S and E models, but I think it changes the way the channels are stored in the radio. Have you tried reading the radio with the VV-898E to see if the channels are retrieved?
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ok thanks i will try that when i get back home later 2night(utc) and let you know what happens :-)
________________________________ From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com on behalf of Brian Dickman brian.maybe@gmail.com Sent: 14 March 2017 16:00 To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] purchase of a leixon vv-898s - memories
Hey Neil,
Try downloading using the Jetstream JT-270mh profile. That includes support for the dual-bank a/b system that the newer firmware 898 uses.
I think we need to add some extra aliases around this, because it's very non-obvious which profile you need to use. If nothing else, there are bits in the download that indicate firmware version and we could provide a check and warning message when the wrong one is used on this series of radios.
-- Brian
On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 1:18 AM, Neil B <ne.b@hotmail.co.ukmailto:ne.b@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
i did try that but made no diference.
i play a bit more today, now i programs 30 memorys with its own programmer, i read in chirp and memorys read randomly into random locations on each download.
i now fine i think mine is a newer varient? a 898st. not sure what the 't' gives me, but that could be a prob.
i think the radio is odd. in operation, the 199 memorys are NOT shared between a or b. each has its own set of 99.
it seels a poor radio compaired to the likes of the other cheapos as the baofengs that i have found very good like the big 3 i/k/y lot.
________________________________ From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.commailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com <chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.commailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com> on behalf of Jim Unroe <rock.unroe@gmail.commailto:rock.unroe@gmail.com> Sent: 13 March 2017 21:22 To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] purchase of a leixon vv-898s - memories
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Neil B <ne.b@hotmail.co.ukmailto:ne.b@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
i did yes. but with a lot of playing, it just had empy mem slots.
i am programming it with the silly software it came with but even when thats written ok to radio and used, when read ok in chirp, no mems.
I don't remember what the difference is between the S and E models, but I think it changes the way the channels are stored in the radio. Have you tried reading the radio with the VV-898E to see if the channels are retrieved?
Jim _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.commailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users chirp_users -- Discussion of CHIRP - intrepid.danplanet.comhttp://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users intrepid.danplanet.comhttp://intrepid.danplanet.com This list is for discussion of CHIRP use, issues, and beta releases. At any point, the latest daily build will be available here: http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com ...
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hi,
tried, but the jetstream also jumbles up the memory order.
something i did find as the memory file its own software made was in plain text, so i was able to understand that, and duplicate bank a to bank b ok.
________________________________ From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com on behalf of Brian Dickman brian.maybe@gmail.com Sent: 14 March 2017 16:00 To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] purchase of a leixon vv-898s - memories
Hey Neil,
Try downloading using the Jetstream JT-270mh profile. That includes support for the dual-bank a/b system that the newer firmware 898 uses.
I think we need to add some extra aliases around this, because it's very non-obvious which profile you need to use. If nothing else, there are bits in the download that indicate firmware version and we could provide a check and warning message when the wrong one is used on this series of radios.
-- Brian
On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 1:18 AM, Neil B <ne.b@hotmail.co.ukmailto:ne.b@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
i did try that but made no diference.
i play a bit more today, now i programs 30 memorys with its own programmer, i read in chirp and memorys read randomly into random locations on each download.
i now fine i think mine is a newer varient? a 898st. not sure what the 't' gives me, but that could be a prob.
i think the radio is odd. in operation, the 199 memorys are NOT shared between a or b. each has its own set of 99.
it seels a poor radio compaired to the likes of the other cheapos as the baofengs that i have found very good like the big 3 i/k/y lot.
________________________________ From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.commailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com <chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.commailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com> on behalf of Jim Unroe <rock.unroe@gmail.commailto:rock.unroe@gmail.com> Sent: 13 March 2017 21:22 To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] purchase of a leixon vv-898s - memories
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Neil B <ne.b@hotmail.co.ukmailto:ne.b@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
i did yes. but with a lot of playing, it just had empy mem slots.
i am programming it with the silly software it came with but even when thats written ok to radio and used, when read ok in chirp, no mems.
I don't remember what the difference is between the S and E models, but I think it changes the way the channels are stored in the radio. Have you tried reading the radio with the VV-898E to see if the channels are retrieved?
Jim _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.commailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users chirp_users -- Discussion of CHIRP - intrepid.danplanet.comhttp://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users intrepid.danplanet.comhttp://intrepid.danplanet.com This list is for discussion of CHIRP use, issues, and beta releases. At any point, the latest daily build will be available here: http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com ...
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