Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng Programming Cables
Quiet frankly, better to go to the chipset makers own website and get the correct and likely mallware free ones.
Not to say Miklor website is bad, but it's just another third party website with a collection of files, that "could" not be safe.
They might also not be the latest copies of the official drivers.
I'm sure they (whoever "Miklor" are) take care to keep things clean, but they would not be the first or only site to have their repository of useful stuff compromised.
http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_GettingStarted.php%C2%A0%C2%A0 States the situation very well.
However, they wrongly state that FTDI devices don't have that problem. Sorry, but yes they do, there are just as many fake FTDI chips out there as Prolific! The difference is that the official drivers will usually work with them*. But, if you need to alter their behavior (the handshake or status lines, or "which way up" the data lines work) then you'll find that functionality is missing from the fake chips.
* FTDI a while ago did create a storm however, by putting code in the "official" drivers, that could detect the fakes and in turn reprogram the VID/PID info to all zero's rendering them unusable. It is however possible to re-program that information, but it takes some research plus confidence with command line tools on a Linux PC. (As far as I know, the tool for that isn't, or wasn't available for Windows. I can't even remember what it's name is either.)
FTDI soon after, then pushed out a driver that did not disable the things, but for all we know, it may report back to FTDI, or somewhere, any instances of fake chips. No, I did not say they DO that, just that they could. If it was my IP that was ripped off, I'd want to know how bad the problem was, and that would be a way to find out.
The Fake chips are actually micro-controllers programed to emulate the real devices. That they do amazingly well, but not 100%. I have encountered some that were marked up as FTDI, but were functioning as Prolific devices! The supplier I used had no idea, but did apologize and gave me a full refund on the return of the stock I bought for a work project.
I wouldn't trust Amazon either to only ship non-counterfeit cables either! In Amazon's defense, it's often not their fault, and often the actual vendor doesn't know either! (See above...)
I usually make up my own cables using known good modules from the makers themselves, or from known reputable resellers. It's not difficult, and you learn stuff too. (Isn't that what we're supposed to be doing?)
The SiLabs USB/Serial bridge products are also very good, and as yet(?) Not counterfeited, unless someone knows different.
Take care.
73.
Dave G0WBX
On 22/09/18 20:00, chirp_users-request@intrepid.danplanet.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:28 PM Richard AG5M via chirp_users <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
I have two different Baofeng programming cables.? In Windows Device Manager, one shows "Prolific USB to Serial Comm Port", the other shows "USB-Serial CH340."? Both work equally well under Windows XP, Windows 7, and Linux Mint with multiple different Baofeng HTs.? However, only the "USB-Serial CH340" works with Windows 10.? What's the difference?? Anyone else having this issue?? Any thoughts how to make "Prolific USB to Serial Comm Port" work with Windows 10?? I'm really beginning to hate Windows 10.? Tnx, Richard AG5M _______________________________________________
Miklor website. Get drivers. Install drivers.
On 9/23/2018 3:54 AM, Dave B via chirp_users wrote:
Quiet frankly, better to go to the chipset makers own website and get the correct and likely mallware free ones.
I don't think you will find the older v3.2.0.0 driver available for download on the Prolific site.
Not to say Miklor website is bad, but it's just another third party website with a collection of files, that "could" not be safe.
They might also not be the latest copies of the official drivers.
These are definitely _not_ the latest copies of the official drivers. But in this case they are not supposed to be...
However, they wrongly state that FTDI devices don't have that problem. [...]
- FTDI a while ago did create a storm however, by putting code in the
"official" drivers, that could detect the fakes and in turn reprogram the VID/PID info to all zero's rendering them unusable.
John actually mentions this issue with one of the FTDI drivers, here:
http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_ClonedChips.php
The SiLabs USB/Serial bridge products are also very good, and as yet(?) Not counterfeited, unless someone knows different.
Thanks for mentioning SiLabs, I have a Rasberry Pi programming cable using one of their chipsets and it works fine other purposes (I use it for a TTY connection to my Synology NAS).
(Peter)
On 22/09/18 20:00, chirp_users-request@intrepid.danplanet.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:28 PM Richard AG5M via chirp_users <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
I have two different Baofeng programming cables.? In Windows Device Manager, one shows "Prolific USB to Serial Comm Port", the other shows "USB-Serial CH340."? Both work equally well under Windows XP, Windows 7, and Linux Mint with multiple different Baofeng HTs.? However, only the "USB-Serial CH340" works with Windows 10.? What's the difference?? Anyone else having this issue?? Any thoughts how to make "Prolific USB to Serial Comm Port" work with Windows 10?? I'm really beginning to hate Windows 10.? Tnx, Richard AG5M _______________________________________________
Miklor website. Get drivers. Install drivers.
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Drivers!
בתאריך יום א׳, 23 בספט' 2018, 21:52, מאת Peter ptlambert@sbcglobal.net:
On 9/23/2018 3:54 AM, Dave B via chirp_users wrote:
Quiet frankly, better to go to the chipset makers own website and get the correct and likely mallware free ones.
I don't think you will find the older v3.2.0.0 driver available for download on the Prolific site.
Not to say Miklor website is bad, but it's just another third party website with a collection of files, that "could" not be safe.
They might also not be the latest copies of the official drivers.
These are definitely _not_ the latest copies of the official drivers. But in this case they are not supposed to be...
However, they wrongly state that FTDI devices don't have that problem. [...]
- FTDI a while ago did create a storm however, by putting code in the
"official" drivers, that could detect the fakes and in turn reprogram the VID/PID info to all zero's rendering them unusable.
John actually mentions this issue with one of the FTDI drivers, here:
http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_ClonedChips.php
The SiLabs USB/Serial bridge products are also very good, and as yet(?) Not counterfeited, unless someone knows different.
Thanks for mentioning SiLabs, I have a Rasberry Pi programming cable using one of their chipsets and it works fine other purposes (I use it for a TTY connection to my Synology NAS).
(Peter)
On 22/09/18 20:00, chirp_users-request@intrepid.danplanet.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:28 PM Richard AG5M via chirp_users <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
I have two different Baofeng programming cables.? In Windows
Device
Manager, one shows "Prolific USB to Serial Comm Port", the other
shows
"USB-Serial CH340."? Both work equally well under Windows XP, Windows 7, and Linux Mint with multiple different Baofeng HTs.? However,
only the
"USB-Serial CH340" works with Windows 10.? What's the difference?? Anyone else having this issue?? Any thoughts how to make
"Prolific USB
to Serial Comm Port" work with Windows 10?? I'm really beginning
to
hate Windows 10.? Tnx, Richard AG5M _______________________________________________
Miklor website. Get drivers. Install drivers.
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