[chirp_users] TYT TH-UVF1 dual Band Handheld-Expanded Frequency Access
I have a TYT TH-UVF1 dual band handheld and it is supposed to be able to have access to expanded frequencies 136-174 and 400-480. I would like to be able to use for the GMRS which I also have a license for. I was told that the CHIRP software will allow to program these frequencies and it has done so but the radio still will not transmit outside of the amateur bands and I do not receive on the public safety frequencies which I would like to monitor since I am a firefighter and paramedic. If anyone has some advice, it would be appreciated.
David
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 5:14 PM, W David Seay wdseay@msn.com wrote:
I have a TYT TH-UVF1 dual band handheld and it is supposed to be able to have access to expanded frequencies 136-174 and 400-480. I would like to be able to use for the GMRS which I also have a license for. I was told that the CHIRP software will allow to program these frequencies and it has done so but the radio still will not transmit outside of the amateur bands and I do not receive on the public safety frequencies which I would like to monitor since I am a firefighter and paramedic. If anyone has some advice, it would be appreciated.
David
Hi David,
From what it looks like, CHIRP is currently setup to allow entry of UHF
frequencies in the range of 420.000 to 470.000 MHz. I would also expect that there is also some setting (that CHIRP doesn't currently support) to set the lower and upper band limits. These are apparently set to the ham band limits in your radio and need to be expanded.
If you would attach a copy of a .img file from your radio I could take a look at it to see if the band limit settings can be located.
Another option would be download at try the .img file that is available in the CHIRP repository. It already has some of the frequencies that you are interested in already programmed so I would expect that the band limits have already been expanded.
http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/repository/changes/tests/images/TY...
So upload this image to your radio and try it out. If it works, transfer your current channels over to a copy of this image (load both images into CHIRP and use "copy & paste" to transfer the channels between tabs). Do not upload your image back into your radio. If you do, the band limits will be set back to what they were originally.
Jim KC9HI
Jim,
CHIRP allowed me to program and save the frequencies in the radio but it will not receive and transmit out of the HAM bands. I have attached the file from the most recent programing, I think this is what you were looking for. I have seen on the web a software made for the Liuton LT UV radio which seems to be exactly the same as my TYT. Supposedly the saftware will allow you to set the upper and lower limits but I have not been able to find the software anywhere.
Thanks for your prompt response and assistance,
David
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 18:20:30 -0400 From: rock.unroe@gmail.com To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: Re: [chirp_users] TYT TH-UVF1 dual Band Handheld-Expanded Frequency Access
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 5:14 PM, W David Seay wdseay@msn.com wrote:
I have a TYT TH-UVF1 dual band handheld and it is supposed to be able to have access to expanded frequencies 136-174 and 400-480. I would like to be able to use for the GMRS which I also have a license for. I was told that the CHIRP software will allow to program these frequencies and it has done so but the radio still will not transmit outside of the amateur bands and I do not receive on the public safety frequencies which I would like to monitor since I am a firefighter and paramedic. If anyone has some advice, it would be appreciated.
David
Hi David,
From what it looks like, CHIRP is currently setup to allow entry of UHF frequencies in the range of 420.000 to 470.000 MHz. I would also expect that there is also some setting (that CHIRP doesn't currently support) to set the lower and upper band limits. These are apparently set to the ham band limits in your radio and need to be expanded.
If you would attach a copy of a .img file from your radio I could take a look at it to see if the band limit settings can be located.
Another option would be download at try the .img file that is available in the CHIRP repository. It already has some of the frequencies that you are interested in already programmed so I would expect that the band limits have already been expanded.
http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/repository/changes/tests/images/TY...
So upload this image to your radio and try it out. If it works, transfer your current channels over to a copy of this image (load both images into CHIRP and use "copy & paste" to transfer the channels between tabs). Do not upload your image back into your radio. If you do, the band limits will be set back to what they were originally.
Jim KC9HI
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David, No. I need a saved .img file, not a .csv file. Jim
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 9:00 PM, W. David Seay wdseay@msn.com wrote:
Jim,
CHIRP allowed me to program and save the frequencies in the radio but it will not receive and transmit out of the HAM bands. I have attached the file from the most recent programing, I think this is what you were looking for. I have seen on the web a software made for the Liuton LT UV radio which seems to be exactly the same as my TYT. Supposedly the saftware will allow you to set the upper and lower limits but I have not been able to find the software anywhere.
Thanks for your prompt response and assistance,
David
Jim,
I tried to upload the img file you sent me and it would not load, I dowmloaded the file from the radio and reloaded it fine, I have heard that the radios need to be read before they can be loaded??
I will keep trying stuff on my end.
Thanks again,
David
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 18:20:30 -0400 From: rock.unroe@gmail.com To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: Re: [chirp_users] TYT TH-UVF1 dual Band Handheld-Expanded Frequency Access
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 5:14 PM, W David Seay wdseay@msn.com wrote:
I have a TYT TH-UVF1 dual band handheld and it is supposed to be able to have access to expanded frequencies 136-174 and 400-480. I would like to be able to use for the GMRS which I also have a license for. I was told that the CHIRP software will allow to program these frequencies and it has done so but the radio still will not transmit outside of the amateur bands and I do not receive on the public safety frequencies which I would like to monitor since I am a firefighter and paramedic. If anyone has some advice, it would be appreciated.
David
Hi David,
From what it looks like, CHIRP is currently setup to allow entry of UHF frequencies in the range of 420.000 to 470.000 MHz. I would also expect that there is also some setting (that CHIRP doesn't currently support) to set the lower and upper band limits. These are apparently set to the ham band limits in your radio and need to be expanded.
If you would attach a copy of a .img file from your radio I could take a look at it to see if the band limit settings can be located.
Another option would be download at try the .img file that is available in the CHIRP repository. It already has some of the frequencies that you are interested in already programmed so I would expect that the band limits have already been expanded.
http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/repository/changes/tests/images/TY...
So upload this image to your radio and try it out. If it works, transfer your current channels over to a copy of this image (load both images into CHIRP and use "copy & paste" to transfer the channels between tabs). Do not upload your image back into your radio. If you do, the band limits will be set back to what they were originally.
Jim KC9HI
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David,
I do not have experience with this particular radio, but I believe it is a repackaged Baofeng UV5R. As such, and even if this is not accurate, there should be a pair of settings that determine the upper and lower bound of the VHF and UHF frequency bands. This can be found in Chirp on the "Settings" tab; on my radio (Baofeng UV-82) is is under "Other Settings". Check this first. Also make sure that TX (transmit) is enabled on both bands, which it probably is if you are OK on RX and TX within the official amateur band plans.
Caveat: while you may have a valid GMRS license, the radio also needs to have Part 95 FCC certification to transmit on GMRS, which I don't believe it has. Technically, the radio needs to have a sticker with its FCC certification on it, although most Chinese radios don't have one - depends on the retail channel you purchased it from. It's probably Part 97 certified, but not Part 95. Since you are a professional first responder, this could matter to you. You can check for certification on the FCC site at apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm.
Regards, Rob
From: wdseay@msn.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:14:49 -0400 To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: [chirp_users] TYT TH-UVF1 dual Band Handheld-Expanded Frequency Access
I have a TYT TH-UVF1 dual band handheld and it is supposed to be able to have access to expanded frequencies 136-174 and 400-480. I would like to be able to use for the GMRS which I also have a license for. I was told that the CHIRP software will allow to program these frequencies and it has done so but the radio still will not transmit outside of the amateur bands and I do not receive on the public safety frequencies which I would like to monitor since I am a firefighter and paramedic. If anyone has some advice, it would be appreciated.
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Rob,
Thanks for your prompt response, I will check on the typing for the radio, I think I saw somewhere were it is part 90 certified? but I will look it up using the link you gave me.
Thanks,
David
From: rd_redford@hotmail.com To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:38:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [chirp_users] TYT TH-UVF1 dual Band Handheld-Expanded Frequency Access
David,
I do not have experience with this particular radio, but I believe it is a repackaged Baofeng UV5R. As such, and even if this is not accurate, there should be a pair of settings that determine the upper and lower bound of the VHF and UHF frequency bands. This can be found in Chirp on the "Settings" tab; on my radio (Baofeng UV-82) is is under "Other Settings". Check this first. Also make sure that TX (transmit) is enabled on both bands, which it probably is if you are OK on RX and TX within the official amateur band plans.
Caveat: while you may have a valid GMRS license, the radio also needs to have Part 95 FCC certification to transmit on GMRS, which I don't believe it has. Technically, the radio needs to have a sticker with its FCC certification on it, although most Chinese radios don't have one - depends on the retail channel you purchased it from. It's probably Part 97 certified, but not Part 95. Since you are a professional first responder, this could matter to you. You can check for certification on the FCC site at apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm.
Regards, Rob
From: wdseay@msn.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:14:49 -0400 To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: [chirp_users] TYT TH-UVF1 dual Band Handheld-Expanded Frequency Access
I have a TYT TH-UVF1 dual band handheld and it is supposed to be able to have access to expanded frequencies 136-174 and 400-480. I would like to be able to use for the GMRS which I also have a license for. I was told that the CHIRP software will allow to program these frequencies and it has done so but the radio still will not transmit outside of the amateur bands and I do not receive on the public safety frequencies which I would like to monitor since I am a firefighter and paramedic. If anyone has some advice, it would be appreciated.
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Yes, meant to say Part 90 certification. Thanks for catching that. BTW, I have found no amateur radios that are also Part 95 certified.
Regards, Rob
Rob Redford
From: wdseay@msn.com To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 20:52:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [chirp_users] TYT TH-UVF1 dual Band Handheld-Expanded Frequency Access
Rob,
Thanks for your prompt response, I will check on the typing for the radio, I think I saw somewhere were it is part 90 certified? but I will look it up using the link you gave me.
Thanks,
David
From: rd_redford@hotmail.com To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:38:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [chirp_users] TYT TH-UVF1 dual Band Handheld-Expanded Frequency Access
David,
I do not have experience with this particular radio, but I believe it is a repackaged Baofeng UV5R. As such, and even if this is not accurate, there should be a pair of settings that determine the upper and lower bound of the VHF and UHF frequency bands. This can be found in Chirp on the "Settings" tab; on my radio (Baofeng UV-82) is is under "Other Settings". Check this first. Also make sure that TX (transmit) is enabled on both bands, which it probably is if you are OK on RX and TX within the official amateur band plans.
Caveat: while you may have a valid GMRS license, the radio also needs to have Part 95 FCC certification to transmit on GMRS, which I don't believe it has. Technically, the radio needs to have a sticker with its FCC certification on it, although most Chinese radios don't have one - depends on the retail channel you purchased it from. It's probably Part 97 certified, but not Part 95. Since you are a professional first responder, this could matter to you. You can check for certification on the FCC site at apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm.
Regards, Rob
From: wdseay@msn.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:14:49 -0400 To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: [chirp_users] TYT TH-UVF1 dual Band Handheld-Expanded Frequency Access
I have a TYT TH-UVF1 dual band handheld and it is supposed to be able to have access to expanded frequencies 136-174 and 400-480. I would like to be able to use for the GMRS which I also have a license for. I was told that the CHIRP software will allow to program these frequencies and it has done so but the radio still will not transmit outside of the amateur bands and I do not receive on the public safety frequencies which I would like to monitor since I am a firefighter and paramedic. If anyone has some advice, it would be appreciated.
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Amateur radio is not certified at all except for the receiver's and that's on part 15 for those between 30 Mhz and 1 GHz in mass production.
Brad NK8J
From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Rob Redford Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:26 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] TYT TH-UVF1 dual Band Handheld-Expanded Frequency Access
Yes, meant to say Part 90 certification. Thanks for catching that. BTW, I have found no amateur radios that are also Part 95 certified.
Regards, Rob
Rob Redford
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From: wdseay@msn.com To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 20:52:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [chirp_users] TYT TH-UVF1 dual Band Handheld-Expanded Frequency Access
Rob,
Thanks for your prompt response, I will check on the typing for the radio, I think I saw somewhere were it is part 90 certified? but I will look it up using the link you gave me.
Thanks,
David
_____
From: rd_redford@hotmail.com To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:38:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [chirp_users] TYT TH-UVF1 dual Band Handheld-Expanded Frequency Access
David,
I do not have experience with this particular radio, but I believe it is a repackaged Baofeng UV5R. As such, and even if this is not accurate, there should be a pair of settings that determine the upper and lower bound of the VHF and UHF frequency bands. This can be found in Chirp on the "Settings" tab; on my radio (Baofeng UV-82) is is under "Other Settings". Check this first. Also make sure that TX (transmit) is enabled on both bands, which it probably is if you are OK on RX and TX within the official amateur band plans.
Caveat: while you may have a valid GMRS license, the radio also needs to have Part 95 FCC certification to transmit on GMRS, which I don't believe it has. Technically, the radio needs to have a sticker with its FCC certification on it, although most Chinese radios don't have one - depends on the retail channel you purchased it from. It's probably Part 97 certified, but not Part 95. Since you are a professional first responder, this could matter to you. You can check for certification on the FCC site at apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm.
Regards, Rob
From: wdseay@msn.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:14:49 -0400 To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: [chirp_users] TYT TH-UVF1 dual Band Handheld-Expanded Frequency
Access
I have a TYT TH-UVF1 dual band handheld and it is supposed to be able to
have access to expanded frequencies 136-174 and 400-480. I would like to be able to use for the GMRS which I also have a license for. I was told that the CHIRP software will allow to program these frequencies and it has done so but the radio still will not transmit outside of the amateur bands and I do not receive on the public safety frequencies which I would like to monitor since I am a firefighter and paramedic. If anyone has some advice, it would be appreciated.
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I suggest you read this http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-turns-away-petition-to-allow-hams-to-operate-non-certificated-transmitters-on-gmrs which says if it is certified for GMRS it must NOT work on ham frequencies.
On 7/11/2014 23:26, Rob Redford wrote:
Yes, meant to say Part 90 certification. Thanks for catching that. BTW, I have found no amateur radios that are _also _Part 95 certified.
Regards, Rob
Rob Redford
From: wdseay@msn.com
To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 20:52:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [chirp_users] TYT TH-UVF1 dual Band Handheld-Expanded Frequency Access
Rob,
Thanks for your prompt response, I will check on the typing for the radio, I think I saw somewhere were it is part 90 certified? but I will look it up using the link you gave me.
Thanks,
David
From: rd_redford@hotmail.com
To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:38:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [chirp_users] TYT TH-UVF1 dual Band Handheld-Expanded Frequency Access
David,
I do not have experience with this particular radio, but I believe it is a repackaged Baofeng UV5R. As such, and even if this is not accurate, there should be a pair of settings that determine the upper and lower bound of the VHF and UHF frequency bands. This can be found in Chirp on the "Settings" tab; on my radio (Baofeng UV-82) is is under "Other Settings". Check this first. Also make sure that TX (transmit) is enabled on both bands, which it probably is if you are OK on RX and TX within the official amateur band plans.
Caveat: while you may have a valid GMRS license, the radio also needs to have Part 95 FCC certification to transmit on GMRS, which I don't believe it has. Technically, the radio needs to have a sticker with its FCC certification on it, although most Chinese radios don't have one - depends on the retail channel you purchased it from. It's probably Part 97 certified, but not Part 95. Since you are a professional first responder, this could matter to you. You can check for certification on the FCC site at apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm.
Regards, Rob
From: wdseay@msn.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:14:49 -0400 To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: [chirp_users] TYT TH-UVF1 dual Band Handheld-Expanded
Frequency Access
I have a TYT TH-UVF1 dual band handheld and it is supposed to be able
to have access to expanded frequencies 136-174 and 400-480. I would like to be able to use for the GMRS which I also have a license for. I was told that the CHIRP software will allow to program these frequencies and it has done so but the radio still will not transmit outside of the amateur bands and I do not receive on the public safety frequencies which I would like to monitor since I am a firefighter and paramedic. If anyone has some advice, it would be appreciated.
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Thanks for the educational link. This thread promoted me to some more research on the subject and earlier I found an article that had the same conclusion but from a different perspective: any radio (eg amateur) that could exceed FRS and MURS power restrictions (0.5, 2W) could never be Part 95 certified.
Regards, Rob
Rob Redford
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On Jul 12, 2014, at 3:40 AM, "Paul Mills" ac0hy@wpmills.com wrote:
I suggest you read this http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-turns-away-petition-to-allow-hams-to-operate-non-certificated-transmitters-on-gmrs which says if it is certified for GMRS it must NOT work on ham frequencies.
On 7/11/2014 23:26, Rob Redford wrote: Yes, meant to say Part 90 certification. Thanks for catching that. BTW, I have found no amateur radios that are _also _Part 95 certified.
Regards, Rob
Rob Redford
From: wdseay@msn.com
To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 20:52:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [chirp_users] TYT TH-UVF1 dual Band Handheld-Expanded Frequency Access
Rob,
Thanks for your prompt response, I will check on the typing for the radio, I think I saw somewhere were it is part 90 certified? but I will look it up using the link you gave me.
Thanks,
David
From: rd_redford@hotmail.com
To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:38:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [chirp_users] TYT TH-UVF1 dual Band Handheld-Expanded Frequency Access
David,
I do not have experience with this particular radio, but I believe it is a repackaged Baofeng UV5R. As such, and even if this is not accurate, there should be a pair of settings that determine the upper and lower bound of the VHF and UHF frequency bands. This can be found in Chirp on the "Settings" tab; on my radio (Baofeng UV-82) is is under "Other Settings". Check this first. Also make sure that TX (transmit) is enabled on both bands, which it probably is if you are OK on RX and TX within the official amateur band plans.
Caveat: while you may have a valid GMRS license, the radio also needs to have Part 95 FCC certification to transmit on GMRS, which I don't believe it has. Technically, the radio needs to have a sticker with its FCC certification on it, although most Chinese radios don't have one - depends on the retail channel you purchased it from. It's probably Part 97 certified, but not Part 95. Since you are a professional first responder, this could matter to you. You can check for certification on the FCC site at apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm.
Regards, Rob
From: wdseay@msn.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:14:49 -0400 To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: [chirp_users] TYT TH-UVF1 dual Band Handheld-Expanded
Frequency Access
I have a TYT TH-UVF1 dual band handheld and it is supposed to be able
to have access to expanded frequencies 136-174 and 400-480. I would like to be able to use for the GMRS which I also have a license for. I was told that the CHIRP software will allow to program these frequencies and it has done so but the radio still will not transmit outside of the amateur bands and I do not receive on the public safety frequencies which I would like to monitor since I am a firefighter and paramedic. If anyone has some advice, it would be appreciated.
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Hi David,
Saw your TYT-UVF1 query on the CHIRP list and thought I'd reply directly to avoid getting into the whole part 90/unlocking/chinese/fire/ems/left socks are better than right socks discussion. ;>
I'll try to get something a bit prettier with screen shots and such put together when I can find the time. For now, maybe this will help you out. Disperse as you see fit.
-Dana (ks0rr)
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 4:14 PM, W David Seay wdseay@msn.com wrote:
I have a TYT TH-UVF1 dual band handheld and it is supposed to be able to have access to expanded frequencies 136-174 and 400-480. I would like to be able to use for the GMRS which I also have a license for. I was told that the CHIRP software will allow to program these frequencies and it has done so but the radio still will not transmit outside of the amateur bands and I do not receive on the public safety frequencies which I would like to monitor since I am a firefighter and paramedic. If anyone has some advice, it would be appreciated.
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