[chirp_users] Baofeng 'waterproof' models
Hi folks, and thanks to Jim and others for prior answers.
I am looking for recommendations of a Baofeng 'waterproof' model that meets these criteria:
* dual-band and TX capable (or unlockable) over a range similar to old-school UV-5R * mature CHIRP driver and/or minimal history of firmware quirks * USB charging by port in the radio itself (no barrel plug dongles) if available
I got a couple UV-9R Pro but found they have issues thus far, not sure if CHIRP related, hardware related, or other, but it rules that model out until I can figure out what the problem is.
I got three GT-3WP and so far, while two of them work great, it looks like I got three models with three sets of quirks (one of those being the null set, but still, it doesn't inspire confidence)
I got a UV-9R Plus and was afraid to program it for several months after the UV-9R Pro problems, I finally did so today, and it appears to work perfectly. But there's always the question of what will happen with the next one.
I understand these are very inexpensive radios and there is always going to be a nonzero chance of getting one with strange new firmware. I'm basically just looking for people's input on what they see as the most solid choice in a 'waterproof' unit (yes I know they are only water resistant) from the Baofeng brand, preferably with built-in USB charge capability, with the lowest chance of upsetting surprises when I attempt to program it with CHIRP.
And again. I know they are cheap radios. The next phase of my project is finding something that does all of the above (including a TX range comparable to the UV-5R), but with higher build quality and better durability. Feel free to pipe up if you have recommendations for that, too. Although for right now I am specifically looking at Baofengs.
Thanks again. This is a very helpful group.
I wouldn't trust any of them to be Waterproof long term, water resistant at best!!
On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 07:57:51 PM EST, d@deutrino.net d@deutrino.net wrote:
Hi folks, and thanks to Jim and others for prior answers.
I am looking for recommendations of a Baofeng 'waterproof' model that meets these criteria:
* dual-band and TX capable (or unlockable) over a range similar to old-school UV-5R * mature CHIRP driver and/or minimal history of firmware quirks * USB charging by port in the radio itself (no barrel plug dongles) if available
I got a couple UV-9R Pro but found they have issues thus far, not sure if CHIRP related, hardware related, or other, but it rules that model out until I can figure out what the problem is.
I got three GT-3WP and so far, while two of them work great, it looks like I got three models with three sets of quirks (one of those being the null set, but still, it doesn't inspire confidence)
I got a UV-9R Plus and was afraid to program it for several months after the UV-9R Pro problems, I finally did so today, and it appears to work perfectly. But there's always the question of what will happen with the next one.
I understand these are very inexpensive radios and there is always going to be a nonzero chance of getting one with strange new firmware. I'm basically just looking for people's input on what they see as the most solid choice in a 'waterproof' unit (yes I know they are only water resistant) from the Baofeng brand, preferably with built-in USB charge capability, with the lowest chance of upsetting surprises when I attempt to program it with CHIRP.
And again. I know they are cheap radios. The next phase of my project is finding something that does all of the above (including a TX range comparable to the UV-5R), but with higher build quality and better durability. Feel free to pipe up if you have recommendations for that, too. Although for right now I am specifically looking at Baofengs.
Thanks again. This is a very helpful group. _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to boicecf@verizon.net at boicecf@verizon.net To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com To report this email as off-topic, please email chirp_users-owner@intrepid.danplanet.com Searchable archive: https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
do not buy or even consider a vx-6r, if you need something waterproof!!! I speak from personal experience having owned one that THE VX-6R is NOT WATERPROOF!! Yaesu and myself ended up in small claims court over this fact after I rolled a kayak in saltwater with one in my pocket. Neither me nor the radio exceeded the 1 meter depth limit specified, yet yaesu put the full force of their lawyers behind not replacing the radio outright and threatened to appeal even if I had won. Facing an onslaught of corporate lawyers and a seeming never ending battle ahead I was basically forced to settle for paying yaesu about $100 which was most likely about their cost for a new replacement VX-6R. Bottom line, I will NEVER buy another yaesu product, I won't own one used, and I will discourage anyone and everyone I know from giving Yaesu any of their business or owning any yaesu product. My experience demonstrated that Yaesu will not stand behind their products and are deceptive to say the least in their literature and advertising! Again DO NOT BUY A VX-6R OR ANY YAESU PRODUCT FOR THE REASONS OUTLINED ABOVE!
eric - af6ep
On 2024-02-26 17:17, Jerry Kuhn wrote:
Hello,
For a higher quality waterproof (even submersible), perhaps a Yaesu VX-6R? Considering one myself as they are selling now at $230. Not sure about the "most waterproof" Baofeng as I also have some UV-9R+'s and they certainly aren't waterproof. There are waterproof bags made specifically for HT's sold on eBay though. Would that suffice until getting something like the VX-6R, perhaps? I've used one myself and trusted it to protect my Kenwood TH-D74 in the rain and it worked ok.
Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
On Feb 26, 2024, at 8:11 PM, boicecf--- via chirp_users chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com wrote:
I wouldn't trust any of them to be Waterproof long term, water resistant at best!!
On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 07:57:51 PM EST, d@deutrino.net d@deutrino.net wrote:
Hi folks, and thanks to Jim and others for prior answers.
I am looking for recommendations of a Baofeng 'waterproof' model that meets these criteria:
- dual-band and TX capable (or unlockable) over a range similar to
old-school UV-5R
- mature CHIRP driver and/or minimal history of firmware quirks
- USB charging by port in the radio itself (no barrel plug dongles) if
available
I got a couple UV-9R Pro but found they have issues thus far, not sure if CHIRP related, hardware related, or other, but it rules that model out until I can figure out what the problem is.
I got three GT-3WP and so far, while two of them work great, it looks like I got three models with three sets of quirks (one of those being the null set, but still, it doesn't inspire confidence)
I got a UV-9R Plus and was afraid to program it for several months after the UV-9R Pro problems, I finally did so today, and it appears to work perfectly. But there's always the question of what will happen with the next one.
I understand these are very inexpensive radios and there is always going to be a nonzero chance of getting one with strange new firmware. I'm basically just looking for people's input on what they see as the most solid choice in a 'waterproof' unit (yes I know they are only water resistant) from the Baofeng brand, preferably with built-in USB charge capability, with the lowest chance of upsetting surprises when I attempt to program it with CHIRP.
And again. I know they are cheap radios. The next phase of my project is finding something that does all of the above (including a TX range comparable to the UV-5R), but with higher build quality and better durability. Feel free to pipe up if you have recommendations for that, too. Although for right now I am specifically looking at Baofengs.
Thanks again. This is a very helpful group. _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to boicecf@verizon.net at boicecf@verizon.net To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com To report this email as off-topic, please email chirp_users-owner@intrepid.danplanet.com Searchable archive: https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to JK at email@jerrykuhn.net To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com To report this email as off-topic, please email chirp_users-owner@intrepid.danplanet.com Searchable archive: https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
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Guys, I love bashing on my least-favorite band (Yaesu) myself, but we're pretty far off-topic here. Let's please respect the thousands of people who subscribed to hear about CHIRP stuff and take this somewhere else.
(tell me where and maybe I'll follow you to throw some punches! :P)
--Dan
On Feb 26, 2024, at 5:56 PM, Jerry Kuhn email@jerrykuhn.net wrote:
Wow, that’s unfortunate. I’m a but surprised they (Yaesu) didn’t cover it. My FT3DR developed screen burn and they replaced it under their three years warranty. I’ll reconsider the VX-6R though.
Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
On Feb 26, 2024, at 8:51 PM, eric.fort@fortconsulting.org wrote:
do not buy or even consider a vx-6r, if you need something waterproof!!! I speak from personal experience having owned one that THE VX-6R is NOT WATERPROOF!! Yaesu and myself ended up in small claims court over this fact after I rolled a kayak in saltwater with one in my pocket. Neither me nor the radio exceeded the 1 meter depth limit specified, yet yaesu put the full force of their lawyers behind not replacing the radio outright and threatened to appeal even if I had won. Facing an onslaught of corporate lawyers and a seeming never ending battle ahead I was basically forced to settle for paying yaesu about $100 which was most likely about their cost for a new replacement VX-6R. Bottom line, I will NEVER buy another yaesu product, I won’t own one used, and I will discourage anyone and everyone I know from giving Yaesu any of their business or owning any yaesu product. My experience demonstrated that Yaesu will not stand behind their products and are deceptive to say the least in their literature and advertising! Again DO NOT BUY A VX-6R OR ANY YAESU PRODUCT FOR THE REASONS OUTLINED ABOVE! eric - af6ep
On 2024-02-26 17:17, Jerry Kuhn wrote:
Hello, For a higher quality waterproof (even submersible), perhaps a Yaesu VX-6R? Considering one myself as they are selling now at $230. Not sure about the "most waterproof" Baofeng as I also have some UV-9R+'s and they certainly aren't waterproof. There are waterproof bags made specifically for HT's sold on eBay though. Would that suffice until getting something like the VX-6R, perhaps? I've used one myself and trusted it to protect my Kenwood TH-D74 in the rain and it worked ok. Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
On Feb 26, 2024, at 8:11 PM, boicecf--- via chirp_users chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com wrote:
I wouldn't trust any of them to be Waterproof long term, water resistant at best!! On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 07:57:51 PM EST, d@deutrino.net d@deutrino.net wrote:
Hi folks, and thanks to Jim and others for prior answers.
I am looking for recommendations of a Baofeng 'waterproof' model that meets these criteria:
- dual-band and TX capable (or unlockable) over a range similar to old-school UV-5R
- mature CHIRP driver and/or minimal history of firmware quirks
- USB charging by port in the radio itself (no barrel plug dongles) if available
I got a couple UV-9R Pro but found they have issues thus far, not sure if CHIRP related, hardware related, or other, but it rules that model out until I can figure out what the problem is.
I got three GT-3WP and so far, while two of them work great, it looks like I got three models with three sets of quirks (one of those being the null set, but still, it doesn't inspire confidence)
I got a UV-9R Plus and was afraid to program it for several months after the UV-9R Pro problems, I finally did so today, and it appears to work perfectly. But there's always the question of what will happen with the next one.
I understand these are very inexpensive radios and there is always going to be a nonzero chance of getting one with strange new firmware. I'm basically just looking for people's input on what they see as the most solid choice in a 'waterproof' unit (yes I know they are only water resistant) from the Baofeng brand, preferably with built-in USB charge capability, with the lowest chance of upsetting surprises when I attempt to program it with CHIRP.
And again. I know they are cheap radios. The next phase of my project is finding something that does all of the above (including a TX range comparable to the UV-5R), but with higher build quality and better durability. Feel free to pipe up if you have recommendations for that, too. Although for right now I am specifically looking at Baofengs.
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A couple of years ago (maybe four), I bought a Baofeng UV-XR (the "X" takes the place of "10") radio. I have had absolutely no problems with it. It is also water resistant, works perfectly with CHIRP, and now (unlike when I bought mine) has a USB charge capacity. It was a 10 Watt rated model. Now it is rated at 12 Watts. 73s, Christopher Knowles WD1E
On 2/26/2024 7:57 PM, d@deutrino.net wrote:
Hi folks, and thanks to Jim and others for prior answers.
I am looking for recommendations of a Baofeng 'waterproof' model that meets these criteria:
- dual-band and TX capable (or unlockable) over a range similar to old-school UV-5R
- mature CHIRP driver and/or minimal history of firmware quirks
- USB charging by port in the radio itself (no barrel plug dongles) if available
I got a couple UV-9R Pro but found they have issues thus far, not sure if CHIRP related, hardware related, or other, but it rules that model out until I can figure out what the problem is.
I got three GT-3WP and so far, while two of them work great, it looks like I got three models with three sets of quirks (one of those being the null set, but still, it doesn't inspire confidence)
I got a UV-9R Plus and was afraid to program it for several months after the UV-9R Pro problems, I finally did so today, and it appears to work perfectly. But there's always the question of what will happen with the next one.
I understand these are very inexpensive radios and there is always going to be a nonzero chance of getting one with strange new firmware. I'm basically just looking for people's input on what they see as the most solid choice in a 'waterproof' unit (yes I know they are only water resistant) from the Baofeng brand, preferably with built-in USB charge capability, with the lowest chance of upsetting surprises when I attempt to program it with CHIRP.
And again. I know they are cheap radios. The next phase of my project is finding something that does all of the above (including a TX range comparable to the UV-5R), but with higher build quality and better durability. Feel free to pipe up if you have recommendations for that, too. Although for right now I am specifically looking at Baofengs.
Thanks again. This is a very helpful group. _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Christopher Knowles at cknowles@tiac.net To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com To report this email as off-topic, please email chirp_users-owner@intrepid.danplanet.com Searchable archive: https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
...I bought a Baofeng UV-XR (the "X"takes the place of "10") radio. I have had absolutely no problems with it. It is also water resistant, works perfectly with CHIRP, and now
(unlike when I bought mine) has a USB charge capacity. It was a 10 Watt rated model. Now it is rated at 12 Watts. 73s, Christopher Knowles WD1E
I could only find this one on Amazon, and the doc only says 7w. Notice how Amazon markets it as Walkie Talkie, completely ignoring that it's illegal to use with no license.
"UV-10R Tri-Power 7W Two Way Radio Handheld Long Range Walkie Talkie for Adults with USB Cable"
I got no hits on UV-XR
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 4:36 AM Christopher Knowles cknowles@tiac.net wrote:
A couple of years ago (maybe four), I bought a Baofeng UV-XR (the "X" takes the place of "10") radio. I have had absolutely no problems with it. It is also water resistant, works perfectly with CHIRP, and now (unlike when I bought mine) has a USB charge capacity. It was a 10 Watt rated model. Now it is rated at 12 Watts. 73s, Christopher Knowles WD1E
On 2/26/2024 7:57 PM, d@deutrino.net wrote:
Hi folks, and thanks to Jim and others for prior answers.
I am looking for recommendations of a Baofeng 'waterproof' model that meets these criteria:
- dual-band and TX capable (or unlockable) over a range similar to old-school UV-5R
- mature CHIRP driver and/or minimal history of firmware quirks
- USB charging by port in the radio itself (no barrel plug dongles) if available
I got a couple UV-9R Pro but found they have issues thus far, not sure if CHIRP related, hardware related, or other, but it rules that model out until I can figure out what the problem is.
I got three GT-3WP and so far, while two of them work great, it looks like I got three models with three sets of quirks (one of those being the null set, but still, it doesn't inspire confidence)
I got a UV-9R Plus and was afraid to program it for several months after the UV-9R Pro problems, I finally did so today, and it appears to work perfectly. But there's always the question of what will happen with the next one.
I understand these are very inexpensive radios and there is always going to be a nonzero chance of getting one with strange new firmware. I'm basically just looking for people's input on what they see as the most solid choice in a 'waterproof' unit (yes I know they are only water resistant) from the Baofeng brand, preferably with built-in USB charge capability, with the lowest chance of upsetting surprises when I attempt to program it with CHIRP.
And again. I know they are cheap radios. The next phase of my project is finding something that does all of the above (including a TX range comparable to the UV-5R), but with higher build quality and better durability. Feel free to pipe up if you have recommendations for that, too. Although for right now I am specifically looking at Baofengs.
Thanks again. This is a very helpful group. _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Christopher Knowles at cknowles@tiac.net To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com To report this email as off-topic, please email chirp_users-owner@intrepid.danplanet.com Searchable archive: https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
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But not good for me...
I bougth 2x talkies Baofeng BF1909...(very big RF power) delivered with 16 freq inside but prohibed in France... (Power max is 0,5W. in France!)
I Download CHIRP legaly 32 bits but he not reconize this model BF 1909 and new version of CHIRP is only 64 Bits
Baofeng NOT answer at message about prog software in format 32 Bits!.
Bad situation....
A am technician and I have frequency meter, deviation meter and power meter VHF/UHF generator .
When i have possibility to program this talky , I test all specifications...And put this on this site.
Dominique
De : Ceferino Lamb ceferino.lamb@gmail.com À : Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Sujet : Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng 'waterproof' models Date : 29/02/2024 16:05:42 Europe/Paris
...I bought a Baofeng UV-XR (the "X"takes the place of "10") radio. I have had absolutely no problems with it. It is also water resistant, works perfectly with CHIRP, and now
(unlike when I bought mine) has a USB charge capacity. It was a 10 Watt rated model. Now it is rated at 12 Watts. 73s, Christopher Knowles WD1E
/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
According to what I found on the Baofeng website, the BF1909 is a DMR radio. CHIRP does not support any digital radio models.
Lyle
W9LRG
On 2/29/24 11:38, Dominique via chirp_users wrote:
But not good for me... I bougth 2x talkies Baofeng BF1909...(very big RF power) delivered with 16 freq inside but prohibed in France... (Power max is 0,5W. in France!) I Download CHIRP legaly 32 bits but he not reconize this model BF 1909 and new version of CHIRP*is only 64 Bits * Baofeng NOT answer at message about prog software in format 32 Bits!. Bad situation.... A am technician and I have frequency meter, deviation meter and power meter VHF/UHF generator . When i have possibility to program this talky , I test all specifications...And put this on this site. Dominique
De : Ceferino Lamb ceferino.lamb@gmail.com À : Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Sujet : Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng 'waterproof' models Date : 29/02/2024 16:05:42 Europe/Paris
...I bought a Baofeng UV-XR (the "X"takes the place of "10") radio.
I have had absolutely no problems with it. It is also water resistant, works perfectly with CHIRP, and now (unlike when I bought mine) has a USB charge capacity. It was a 10 Watt rated model. Now it is rated at 12 Watts. 73s, Christopher Knowles WD1E
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According to what I found on the Baofeng website, the BF1909 is a DMR radio. CHIRP does not support any digital radio models.
Please be careful making authoritative-sounding statements like this to such a wide audience. I think you meant to say "CHIRP does not support any DMR radios" and that is probably true. However, it supports plenty of other D-STAR and YSF radios to make the claim about "any digital radio models" demonstrably false.
--Dan
True but it often only supports the analogue function of those digital radios and doesn't allow programming of the digital functions.
Please be careful making authoritative-sounding statements like this to such a wide audience. I think you meant to say "CHIRP does not support any DMR radios" and that is probably true. However, it supports plenty of other D-STAR and YSF radios to make the claim about "any digital radio models" demonstrably false.
--Dan
True but it often only supports the analogue function of those digital radios and doesn't allow programming of the digital functions.
I'm not sure why you'd say that. Support for all the settings of any radio is variable in CHIRP for sure, but I can program a Kenwood TH-D74 with a DV D-STAR channel, a D-code, and UR/RPT call attributes no problem:
Similar for other Icom radios, like the 2820, 5100, etc.
On my FT3, I can also put in channels in DN mode (i.e. YSF Digital Voice) and configure various aspects of the YSF operation of the radio in settings:
Again, coverage by radio varies like anything else, but it's far from correct to say that none or supported or you can't program the digital functions.
Perhaps the digital functions of the radios you use aren't covered, but it's not correct, IMHO, to make a blanket statement like that.
--Dan
Doesn't program digital functions on an FT-70. Doesn't even ack that digital mode exists.
On 29/02/2024 23:14 GMT Dan Smith via chirp_users chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com wrote:
True but it often only supports the analogue function of those digital radios and doesn't allow programming of the digital functions.
I'm not sure why you'd say that. Support for all the settings of any radio is variable in CHIRP for sure, but I can program a Kenwood TH-D74 with a DV D-STAR channel, a D-code, and UR/RPT call attributes no problem:
Similar for other Icom radios, like the 2820, 5100, etc.
On my FT3, I can also put in channels in DN mode (i.e. YSF Digital Voice) and configure various aspects of the YSF operation of the radio in settings:
Again, coverage by radio varies like anything else, but it's far from correct to say that none or supported or you can't program the digital functions.
Perhaps the digital functions of the radios you use aren't covered, but it's not correct, IMHO, to make a blanket statement like that.
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It has been my impression that Yaesu isn't exactly forthcoming about the programming details of their radios, so it isn't especially surprising that the digital modes haven't been reverse-engineered.
On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 6:50 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF nigel@ngunn.net wrote:
Doesn't program digital functions on an FT-70. Doesn't even ack that digital mode exists.
On 29/02/2024 23:14 GMT Dan Smith via chirp_users <
chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
True but it often only supports the analogue function of those digital
radios and doesn't allow programming of the digital functions.
I'm not sure why you'd say that. Support for all the settings of any
radio is variable in CHIRP for sure, but I can program a Kenwood TH-D74 with a DV D-STAR channel, a D-code, and UR/RPT call attributes no problem:
Similar for other Icom radios, like the 2820, 5100, etc.
On my FT3, I can also put in channels in DN mode (i.e. YSF Digital
Voice) and configure various aspects of the YSF operation of the radio in settings:
Again, coverage by radio varies like anything else, but it's far from
correct to say that none or supported or you can't program the digital functions.
Perhaps the digital functions of the radios you use aren't covered, but
it's not correct, IMHO, to make a blanket statement like that.
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It has been my impression that Yaesu isn't exactly forthcoming about the programming details of their radios, so it isn't especially surprising that the digital modes haven't been reverse-engineered.
This is true, but also true of 99% of all the radios supported by CHIRP. They're almost all exclusively reverse-engineered the hard way.
It's an immense amount of effort every...single...time we add a radio. Not sure if that's a well-understood detail of this process, but the volunteers that are adding support for radios for you - they're staring at walls of binary for *hours* and *days* to suss out what each bit does. We don't (in almost all cases) get docs telling us what the bits do. We have to shake real hard and then pay close attention to see what falls out :)
The volunteers that do this are often working with borrowed radios, or do it with a radio they then pass on to someone and buy something else. This is why it's hard to go back and add something like DN mode later on a driver for someone like me who doesn't have a radio to test with.
I've thought about doing a conference talk about what is involved in adding a new radio to chirp so people can see how much effort it is. I guess maybe these days it should be a youtube video :)
--Dan
If you start a YT channel then we could either "join" or become patrons and you would make a bit of money to support the effort. I'm sure many of us would be prepared to pay something.
I've thought about doing a conference talk about what is involved in adding a new radio to chirp so people can see how much effort it is. I guess maybe these days it should be a youtube video :)
--Dan
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Doesn't program digital functions on an FT-70. Doesn't even ack that digital mode exists.
Yep, the FT-70 driver author has been kinda MIA for a while, and there are issues stacking up for that radio, including these two specifically calling out missing DN mode:
https://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/10587 https://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/8917
TBH, I kinda got the impression that the FT-70 driver isn't working for newer radios after some firmware change based on reports like this:
https://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/9471 https://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/8933 https://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/10473
but if it's working for you, that's good to know. If I had one, I'd surely add DN support. If you want to capture some images with channels in DN and not DN mode to attach to one of the mode support issues, it's possible that it could even be sussed out remotely.
But, DN mode is supported for all its brothers, the FT-1, FT-2, and FT-3. The model matrix for the latest build shows 27 radios that support D-STAR and 11 that support YSF:
https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20240229/model_support.html
All I'm asking is: let's not say things like "CHIRP doesn't support any digital mode radios". You said "often" which is certainly less than "any" (although not sure it's really supported by the data), but fair enough :)
--Dan
I will probably get rocks and sticks thrown at me but I sure wish Chirp supported some of the common lower end DMR radios. That would be my only dream, other wise it does great for analog. Would be a dream to have a one stop fits all. Not Motorola and Hytera but the common low end DMR radios, Anytone, the TYT radios and the CS800 series radios. Shields up!!
On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 5:06 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF nigel@ngunn.net wrote:
True but it often only supports the analogue function of those digital radios and doesn't allow programming of the digital functions.
Please be careful making authoritative-sounding statements like this to
such a wide audience. I think you meant to say "CHIRP does not support any DMR radios" and that is probably true. However, it supports plenty of other D-STAR and YSF radios to make the claim about "any digital radio models" demonstrably false.
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I will probably get rocks and sticks thrown at me but I sure wish Chirp supported some of the common lower end DMR radios.
Nah Chuck, no rocks, Maybe a few sticks :) You're certainly not the first person to ask about it.
CHIRP supports something crazy like more than 400 models and it does that with a lot of common infrastructure. There are a few radios that don't work like most others that we support (like some of the newer Kenwood commercial radios), and making the infrastructure fit those is a real challenge. D-STAR, YSF, etc radios are generally organized internally like most analog channelized radios, but the DMR ones I've looked at are not so much. So it's certainly a possibility for the future, but it won't be a small undertaking. It's going to require people who possess both the *desire* to make it happen and the *skills* to do so (and a lot of patience from those of us that will have to help review and adapt the infrastructure to allow it).
--Dan
Hello Dan I don't know what Baofeng told you but the two BF1909s that they delivered to me modulate in ANALOG, not in digital. I have a measuring bench and can assure you that the modulation is analog. Not digital. The excursion on those delivered (with 16 frequencies is for wide band) is approximately 5 to 6 KHz (swing) and the power on all these channels is over 2 Watts! (Prohibited in France)
I therefore wanted to program them in PMR and with 0.5W or even less because for construction sites, 0.2W is more than sufficient. Unfortunately, Chirp legacy in 32 Bits does not have the programming of this series of firmware which is similar to BF1901... which is in the latest version in 64 Bits. I therefore wanted to simply program them in PMR frequency on two channels. Alas in 32 bits...for the moment...Not possible because my two PCs are under 32 bits 73
Bonjour Dan
je ne sais ce que vous raconté Baofeng mais les deux BF1909 qu'ils m'ont livrés modulent en ANALOGIQUE pas en digital. Je possède un banc de mesure et puis vous assurer que la modulation est analogique. Pas numérique.
L'excursion sur ceux livrés (avec 16 fréquences est pour bande large) est d'environ 5 a 6 KHz (swing) et la puissance sur tous ces canaux est de plus de 2 Watts! (Interdit en France)
Je désirais donc les programmer en PMR et avec 0,5W ou même moins car pour des chantiers , 0,2W est amplement suffisant. Malheureusement, Chirp legacy en 32 Bits ne possède pas la programmation de cette série de firmware qui est semblable au BF1901... qui lui se trouve dans la dernière version en 64 Bits. Je désirais donc les programmer simplement en fréquence PMR sur deux canaux. Hélas en 32 bits ...pour l'instant...Pas possible car mes deux PC sont sous 32 bits
De : Dan Smith via chirp_users chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com À : Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Sujet : Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng 'waterproof' models Date : 29/02/2024 23:39:34 Europe/Paris
According to what I found on the Baofeng website, the BF1909 is a DMR radio. CHIRP does not support any digital radio models.
Please be careful making authoritative-sounding statements like this to such a wide audience. I think you meant to say "CHIRP does not support any DMR radios" and that is probably true. However, it supports plenty of other D-STAR and YSF radios to make the claim about "any digital radio models" demonstrably false.
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