[chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos
Hi all,
There is a lot of useful content out on youtube that provides step-by-step instructions for some general workflows with CHIRP. However, there are a lot of other things you can do with CHIRP that never seem to get covered. Lately as I have helped people adjust to some of the things that are different in CHIRP next, I've been thinking that it might be nice to have a set of very short to-the-point videos that cover some of the more obscure features. Things you may or may not know about, or that you feel you don't quite understand enough to use properly, or things that have been added and gone unnoticed. Videos covering how to do something in CHIRP legacy may no longer be accurate or helpful today.
Now, I'm not an influencer and I never will be. I'm not a cinematographer, narrator, or artist. Videos I make will never have the pizzaz of HRCC or some of the other people in the business. I'm an engineer and I'm only good at drawing straight lines and right angles. I don't want to make movies, I want to work on CHIRP. But, I can make short low-budget demonstration videos with dry voiceovers and probably help explain things better, so I figured I might give it a go.
I've published the first video on custom stock configurations here:
It's a little rough and I promise the next one will be better. If these are useful to you, please let me know here and subscribe to the channel so I can gauge interest. I have at least a few other topics that I think are not often well understood that I can cover in future videos, and let me know if you have other ideas. I want to keep these mostly radio-neutral, meaning they should be about how to use CHIRP in general, and not how to program a UV-5R. Josh already has that sort of thing covered. If it seems like making more of these is worth the trouble, I'll do that.
Be gentle! :)
--Dan
EXCELLENT !
On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 11:14 PM Dan Smith via chirp_users < chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
Hi all,
There is a lot of useful content out on youtube that provides step-by-step instructions for some general workflows with CHIRP. However, there are a lot of other things you can do with CHIRP that never seem to get covered. Lately as I have helped people adjust to some of the things that are different in CHIRP next, I've been thinking that it might be nice to have a set of very short to-the-point videos that cover some of the more obscure features. Things you may or may not know about, or that you feel you don't quite understand enough to use properly, or things that have been added and gone unnoticed. Videos covering how to do something in CHIRP legacy may no longer be accurate or helpful today.
Now, I'm not an influencer and I never will be. I'm not a cinematographer, narrator, or artist. Videos I make will never have the pizzaz of HRCC or some of the other people in the business. I'm an engineer and I'm only good at drawing straight lines and right angles. I don't want to make movies, I want to work on CHIRP. But, I can make short low-budget demonstration videos with dry voiceovers and probably help explain things better, so I figured I might give it a go.
I've published the first video on custom stock configurations here:
It's a little rough and I promise the next one will be better. If these are useful to you, please let me know here and subscribe to the channel so I can gauge interest. I have at least a few other topics that I think are not often well understood that I can cover in future videos, and let me know if you have other ideas. I want to keep these mostly radio-neutral, meaning they should be about how to use CHIRP in general, and not how to program a UV-5R. Josh already has that sort of thing covered. If it seems like making more of these is worth the trouble, I'll do that.
Be gentle! :)
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On 2023-06-27 20:13:-0700, you wrote:
I've been thinking that it might be nice to have a set of very short to-the-point videos that cover some of the more obscure features.
I use chirp-next-20230628-win32. I think the vids need to distinguish twixt the installed and standalone versions, to the degree that they differ in how they are used.
1. With both the installed and standalone, files can be saved anywhere, and don't need to be saved in %appdata%...I keep mine in radio-specific dirs, along with other files and docs pertaining to each radio. This includes radio image files saved by other programs, such as Kenwood's MCP-2A.
2. In the standalone version, such files can be written to "...\chirp-next-20230628-win32\chirp\stock_configs", where ... is any dir tree leading to a specified dir, with no loss of functionality. My habit of putting them in radio-specific dirs keeps them independent of version changes of chirp and independent of radio. See also "...\Amateur Radio\generic radio channel config files", where I save config file "snippets", such as those supplied in chirp's "...\stock_configs".
3. I encourage the use of longer filenames, because I have found in the past that after a while I don't recall what a file actually contains. See "TH-F6A HAM NOAA FRS GMRS MURS yyyymmdda", for example, where yyyymmdd is the date of the file, and a is an a-z alpha addition in case I save several versions on one day.
4. I understand the convenience of storing config files where chirp can find them by default.
5. You blew past the warning about unsaved file. I think a comment is deserved here...
6. I have not viewed other chirp vids for quite a while. I think your presentation is tops. Very nice diction. Nicely organized, and well-prepared, exactly the hallmarks of a good teaching presentation, vid or whatever. I appreciate no background music, and the calm tone of presentation. Nice pace. I do pause such vids to do things related to the vid, but it is nice not to feel rushed.
7. I don't subscribe to any channels, but I did save the link, and will keep my eye out for more.
~R~ 72/73 de Rich NE1EE The Dusty Key On the banks of the Piscataqua
Hi Rich,
With both the installed and standalone, files can be saved anywhere, and don't need to be saved in %appdata%...I keep mine in radio-specific dirs, along with other files and docs pertaining to each radio. This includes radio image files saved by other programs, such as Kenwood's MCP-2A.
In the standalone version, such files can be written to "...\chirp-next-20230628-win32\chirp\stock_configs", where ... is any dir tree leading to a specified dir, with no loss of functionality. My habit of putting them in radio-specific dirs keeps them independent of version changes of chirp and independent of radio. See also "...\Amateur Radio\generic radio channel config files", where I save config file "snippets", such as those supplied in chirp's "...\stock_configs".
You _can_ do this, but you shouldn't. The "personal" stock_configs directory is *only* in %APPDATA%\CHIRP, regardless of whether or not you use the standalone or installed version. If you put them in the extracted folder (or the equivalent installed one in Program Files) then your personal files will be erased when you upgrade. That's where chirp's shipped files live. If you put them in %APPDATA% then they will stay around across upgrades in perpetuity. Also, the personal ones (from the personal directory) sit above a divider line in the menu so you can quickly spot them as separate from the provided ones.
--Dan
On 2023-06-28 06:33:-0700, you wrote:
Hi Rich,
- In the standalone version, such files can be written to "...\chirp-next-20230628-win32\chirp\stock_configs", <...>
You _can_ do this, but you shouldn't.<...>then your personal files will be erased when you upgrade.<...>If you put them in %APPDATA% then they will stay around across upgrades in perpetuity.
Yes. These are important notes. And my reply, while wordy, is not meant to disagree :-) I have never been happy with APPDATA, because I manage my data on my own, and have done so since the 1970s, when I first began using computers. I don't find APPDATA convenient at all, but more of an annoyance. Nonetheless, I see its value for many casual users. And the point of not using "...\chirp-next-20230628-win32\chirp\stock_configs" is also a good one to think about. I meant it only as an indicator of how things might be done, not a recommendation. For me, however, putting files there is preferable to APPDATA, because a) I am comfortable with managing data files on a computer, and b) the install of the chirp zip file doesna delete the old version, as the installer apparently does, near as I can tell. Of course, as I mentioned in the past, I /actually/ keep my files in two areas: a radio-specific dir, and a 'catch-all' dir, rather than APPDATA, not in '\stock_configs'.
~R~ 72/73 de Rich NE1EE The Dusty Key On the banks of the Piscataqua
That was helpful info!!
Thanks, Jeff
On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 11:15 PM Dan Smith via chirp_users < chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
Hi all,
There is a lot of useful content out on youtube that provides step-by-step instructions for some general workflows with CHIRP. However, there are a lot of other things you can do with CHIRP that never seem to get covered. Lately as I have helped people adjust to some of the things that are different in CHIRP next, I've been thinking that it might be nice to have a set of very short to-the-point videos that cover some of the more obscure features. Things you may or may not know about, or that you feel you don't quite understand enough to use properly, or things that have been added and gone unnoticed. Videos covering how to do something in CHIRP legacy may no longer be accurate or helpful today.
Now, I'm not an influencer and I never will be. I'm not a cinematographer, narrator, or artist. Videos I make will never have the pizzaz of HRCC or some of the other people in the business. I'm an engineer and I'm only good at drawing straight lines and right angles. I don't want to make movies, I want to work on CHIRP. But, I can make short low-budget demonstration videos with dry voiceovers and probably help explain things better, so I figured I might give it a go.
I've published the first video on custom stock configurations here:
It's a little rough and I promise the next one will be better. If these are useful to you, please let me know here and subscribe to the channel so I can gauge interest. I have at least a few other topics that I think are not often well understood that I can cover in future videos, and let me know if you have other ideas. I want to keep these mostly radio-neutral, meaning they should be about how to use CHIRP in general, and not how to program a UV-5R. Josh already has that sort of thing covered. If it seems like making more of these is worth the trouble, I'll do that.
Be gentle! :)
--Dan _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Jeff at jeffrey.gallaway@gmail.com To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com To report this email as off-topic, please email chirp_users-owner@intrepid.danplanet.com Searchable archive: https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
Actually very good! I think some of those who make videos all the time could take a few tips from how this one was done.
On 6/27/23 22:13, Dan Smith via chirp_users wrote:
Hi all,
There is a lot of useful content out on youtube that provides step-by-step instructions for some general workflows with CHIRP. However, there are a lot of other things you can do with CHIRP that never seem to get covered. Lately as I have helped people adjust to some of the things that are different in CHIRP next, I've been thinking that it might be nice to have a set of very short to-the-point videos that cover some of the more obscure features. Things you may or may not know about, or that you feel you don't quite understand enough to use properly, or things that have been added and gone unnoticed. Videos covering how to do something in CHIRP legacy may no longer be accurate or helpful today.
Now, I'm not an influencer and I never will be. I'm not a cinematographer, narrator, or artist. Videos I make will never have the pizzaz of HRCC or some of the other people in the business. I'm an engineer and I'm only good at drawing straight lines and right angles. I don't want to make movies, I want to work on CHIRP. But, I can make short low-budget demonstration videos with dry voiceovers and probably help explain things better, so I figured I might give it a go.
I've published the first video on custom stock configurations here:
It's a little rough and I promise the next one will be better. If these are useful to you, please let me know here and subscribe to the channel so I can gauge interest. I have at least a few other topics that I think are not often well understood that I can cover in future videos, and let me know if you have other ideas. I want to keep these mostly radio-neutral, meaning they should be about how to use CHIRP in general, and not how to program a UV-5R. Josh already has that sort of thing covered. If it seems like making more of these is worth the trouble, I'll do that.
Be gentle! :)
--Dan _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Paul AC0HY at ac0hy@wpmills.com To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com To report this email as off-topic, please email chirp_users-owner@intrepid.danplanet.com Searchable archive: https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
Nice video.
It believe it would be useful for both Windows and Linux versions to be able to define a custom path for stock config files.
I use Nextcloud extensively and I created a folder for configurations for all sorts of programs, Filezilla xml site definitions, mRemoteNG xml, etc. This configuration folder is sync'd across every PC I use. This could be used for any cloud integration like OneDrive or Google drive and is independent of %APPDATA% and would never be lost unless you intentionally delete it.
Thanks
73 Danny, K5CG HH 550-000-0609 SKCC 14257
----- Original Message ----- From: "W Paul Mills" ac0hy@wpmills.com To: "chirp users" chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 11:29:52 AM Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos
Actually very good! I think some of those who make videos all the time could take a few tips from how this one was done.
On 6/27/23 22:13, Dan Smith via chirp_users wrote:
Hi all,
There is a lot of useful content out on youtube that provides step-by-step instructions for some general workflows with CHIRP. However, there are a lot of other things you can do with CHIRP that never seem to get covered. Lately as I have helped people adjust to some of the things that are different in CHIRP next, I've been thinking that it might be nice to have a set of very short to-the-point videos that cover some of the more obscure features. Things you may or may not know about, or that you feel you don't quite understand enough to use properly, or things that have been added and gone unnoticed. Videos covering how to do something in CHIRP legacy may no longer be accurate or helpful today.
Now, I'm not an influencer and I never will be. I'm not a cinematographer, narrator, or artist. Videos I make will never have the pizzaz of HRCC or some of the other people in the business. I'm an engineer and I'm only good at drawing straight lines and right angles. I don't want to make movies, I want to work on CHIRP. But, I can make short low-budget demonstration videos with dry voiceovers and probably help explain things better, so I figured I might give it a go.
I've published the first video on custom stock configurations here:
It's a little rough and I promise the next one will be better. If these are useful to you, please let me know here and subscribe to the channel so I can gauge interest. I have at least a few other topics that I think are not often well understood that I can cover in future videos, and let me know if you have other ideas. I want to keep these mostly radio-neutral, meaning they should be about how to use CHIRP in general, and not how to program a UV-5R. Josh already has that sort of thing covered. If it seems like making more of these is worth the trouble, I'll do that.
Be gentle! :)
--Dan _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Paul AC0HY at ac0hy@wpmills.com To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com To report this email as off-topic, please email chirp_users-owner@intrepid.danplanet.com Searchable archive: https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
It believe it would be useful for both Windows and Linux versions to be able to define a custom path for stock config files.
I use Nextcloud extensively and I created a folder for configurations for all sorts of programs, Filezilla xml site definitions, mRemoteNG xml, etc. This configuration folder is sync'd across every PC I use. This could be used for any cloud integration like OneDrive or Google drive and is independent of %APPDATA% and would never be lost unless you intentionally delete it.
Yep, I do something similar, so this makes sense to me. I've always kinda tried to keep CHIRP sort of "stateful" without a need for a prefs dialog, and things like this are hard to expose without one. But, there are a number of sort of "hidden" features that you can enable directly in the config, and this seems like a reasonable thing to add to that list:
https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/AdvancedConfig
So I'll work on that and add it to the list above when it's available.
Thanks!
--Dan
Adding the CI with the default path to the config file that could then be edited, would be a perfectly acceptable solution and still no need for a config dialog. :)
Thanks Danny
73 Danny, K5CG HH 550-000-0609 SKCC 14257
----- Original Message ----- From: "chirp users" chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com To: "chirp users" chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 4:38:23 PM Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos
It believe it would be useful for both Windows and Linux versions to be able to define a custom path for stock config files.
I use Nextcloud extensively and I created a folder for configurations for all sorts of programs, Filezilla xml site definitions, mRemoteNG xml, etc. This configuration folder is sync'd across every PC I use. This could be used for any cloud integration like OneDrive or Google drive and is independent of %APPDATA% and would never be lost unless you intentionally delete it.
Yep, I do something similar, so this makes sense to me. I've always kinda tried to keep CHIRP sort of "stateful" without a need for a prefs dialog, and things like this are hard to expose without one. But, there are a number of sort of "hidden" features that you can enable directly in the config, and this seems like a reasonable thing to add to that list:
https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/AdvancedConfig
So I'll work on that and add it to the list above when it's available.
Thanks!
--Dan _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Danny at k5cg@hamoperator.org To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com To report this email as off-topic, please email chirp_users-owner@intrepid.danplanet.com Searchable archive: https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
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