Re: [chirp_users] Cut and paste issue?
This is a key reply for me...I had originally thought that if CHIRP knew enough to turn the entry grey, it should know enough to reset the entry to empty. Why not? It would save the confusion that I have had, and that others seemingly have had.
But there is a comment below that reference data on the radio that is not accessible. This is puzzling to me. Does that mean that the data exists in the radio, but there is a flag also in the radio that says not to access that memory? Or recall it? Or tune to it? What is the point? Seems to me that if I delete a memory from the radio panel or from CHIRP, it ought to be gone. It's up to me to have a backup file if I want it...
Well, that was why I gave it a +1...I found (find) it confusing (now just distracting) to delete a memory and have it turn grey, not reset to "empty". If there is a requirement of the radio that makes the grey data necessary, so be it. I am not sure that I see this in effect on any of my radios...?
~R~
On 2016-05-25 13:15:-0700, you wrote:
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Dennis Carr dennisthetiger@chez-vrolet.net wrote:
On Wed, 25 May 2016 14:15:17 -0500 Todd Bloomingdale tbloomingdale@gmail.com wrote:
Dennis,
Once you cut a memory it will go grey. After you have pasted your cut that location is now open to add another frequency into its spot even though it shows as a greyed out.
I should probably rephrase. It doesn't remove the settings from the old memory slot - this, in my mind, would be the correct behavior.
Are you saying that after pasting, seeing the old line greyed out, and uploading to the radio, that channel is still usable in the radio?
I don't know how the BF-F9V2+ works, but on many Chirp radios there is two stage delete: the first delete or ctrl-x will mask the channel. This is illustrated in Chirp by light gray text. The data will still be in the radio, but you won't be able to recall or tune it (common on Yaesu radios). The second delete will zero out the channel so there is no evidence of it ever being there.
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On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Rich Messeder rich.messeder@gmail.com wrote:
But there is a comment below that reference data on the radio that is not accessible. This is puzzling to me. Does that mean that the data exists in the radio, but there is a flag also in the radio that says not to access that memory? Or recall it? Or tune to it? What is the point? Seems to me that if I delete a memory from the radio panel or from CHIRP, it ought to be gone. It's up to me to have a backup file if I want it...
Yes, in a few Yaesu radios, deleted (or "masked") channels are set with a flag. I believe the design goal by Yaesu here was to allow the opportunity to undo a delete. In addition to supporting this, Chirp also has the capability to write zeros over the whole block of memory. For these select few radios, Chirp supports both delete mechanisms in a two-stage delete (as described). The goal here was to make the Chirp support as many of the radios' features as possible, and for the experience to be as close to the radios' interface as possible.
When a channel is masked (the first stage of the two-stage delete on Yaesu radios), it can be unmasked from the front panel of the radio (see the manual) or in Chirp, just click the greyed-out text to resurrect it.
Tom KD7LXL
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