[chirp_users] UV5RE+ N5R-213 bug? Dual watch w no priority. Set to slot A, gets RX in slot B reverts to A to TX
UV5RE+ firmware N5R-213 chirp-daily 20150814
Problem: radio is set to dual watch with no priority. radio set to slot A and receives RX on slot B radio then flips back to slot A to TX. Same happens if B slot is selected and picks up RX on slot A, it reverts to slot B to TX.
Is this a firmware bug or new coding?
Sounds normal. You would only transmit on the frequency with the marker next to it (>).
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On Sep 6, 2015, at 07:18, Galen Thurber galenthurber@gmail.com wrote:
UV5RE+ firmware N5R-213 chirp-daily 20150814
Problem: radio is set to dual watch with no priority. radio set to slot A and receives RX on slot B radio then flips back to slot A to TX. Same happens if B slot is selected and picks up RX on slot A, it reverts to slot B to TX.
Is this a firmware bug or new coding?
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no, this is not normal TDR operation. I have failed to communicate the problem. The radio should switch to the RX slot upon detection of signal and stay there so you can TX. All other versions of the UV5Rs do this properly
On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Jardy jardy72@yahoo.com wrote:
Sounds normal. You would only transmit on the frequency with the marker next to it (>).
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On Sep 6, 2015, at 07:18, Galen Thurber galenthurber@gmail.com wrote:
UV5RE+ firmware N5R-213 chirp-daily 20150814
Problem: radio is set to dual watch with no priority. radio set to slot A and receives RX on slot B radio then flips back to slot A to TX. Same happens if B slot is selected and picks up RX on slot A, it reverts to slot B to TX.
Is this a firmware bug or new coding?
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On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Galen Thurber galenthurber@gmail.com wrote:
UV5RE+ firmware N5R-213 chirp-daily 20150814
Problem: radio is set to dual watch with no priority. radio set to slot A and receives RX on slot B radio then flips back to slot A to TX. Same happens if B slot is selected and picks up RX on slot A, it reverts to slot B to TX.
Is this a firmware bug or new coding?
Baofeng has been messing with how TDR and TDR-AB works. On some of the most recent firmware, TDR-AB tracks the display selected by the [A/B] key and priority is no longer forced to the value selected in the TDR-AB menu.
In some firmware versions the TDR-AB selections are only "A" and "B" (there is no "OFF").
Baofeng has basically done an outstanding job of making the feature useless.
Jim KC9HI
oh shucks, pretty much makes a 2 channel radio one. Will have to set radio's A/B to the same channel in case radio RXs on the other A/B
On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Jim Unroe rock.unroe@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Galen Thurber galenthurber@gmail.com wrote:
UV5RE+ firmware N5R-213 chirp-daily 20150814
Problem: radio is set to dual watch with no priority. radio set to slot A and receives RX on slot B radio then flips back to slot A to TX. Same happens if B slot is selected and picks up RX on slot A, it reverts
to
slot B to TX.
Is this a firmware bug or new coding?
Baofeng has been messing with how TDR and TDR-AB works. On some of the most recent firmware, TDR-AB tracks the display selected by the [A/B] key and priority is no longer forced to the value selected in the TDR-AB menu.
In some firmware versions the TDR-AB selections are only "A" and "B" (there is no "OFF").
Baofeng has basically done an outstanding job of making the feature useless.
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On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Galen Thurber galenthurber@gmail.com wrote:
oh shucks, pretty much makes a 2 channel radio one. Will have to set radio's A/B to the same channel in case radio RXs on the other A/B
Now why would you do that? Dual watch still works. It is dual watch priority is what is no longer useful. And instead of setting both displays to the same frequency/channel, just disable dual watch with menu 7 (TDR). That way only the selected display (A or B) will receive.
Jim KC9HI
Yes dual watch still works, but this bug/coding causes TX problems. Person one has radio set to the following A 154.6 Mhz B 446 Mhz TDR is on A is active
Person two has radio set to A 146.52 B 446 TDR is on B is active
Person 2 uses slot B to call 1. Person 1 hears 2 on slot B. ok Person 1 responds to call but radio switches to slot A (its starting position) Person 2 can not hear person 1 because of freq differences.
If someone can clarify my writing then please do
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Jim Unroe rock.unroe@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Galen Thurber galenthurber@gmail.com wrote:
oh shucks, pretty much makes a 2 channel radio one. Will have to set
radio's
A/B to the same channel in case radio RXs on the other A/B
Now why would you do that? Dual watch still works. It is dual watch priority is what is no longer useful. And instead of setting both displays to the same frequency/channel, just disable dual watch with menu 7 (TDR). That way only the selected display (A or B) will receive.
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If I have 'slot A' active, I don't want my radio to make slot B active just because there was activity there. If I want to talk to someone on B, I want to manually change to B. Yes, you must pay attention to what is going on, but if I am not part of the other conversation, I don't want to key up on it accidentally if I want to talk to someone on A. This would be a problem for me having the radio automatically switching sides as active just because it hears something on the other bank.
Jardy Dawson WA7JRD Nobody really cares what device you are using, as long as YOU like it!
On Sep 7, 2015, at 06:02, Galen Thurber galenthurber@gmail.com wrote:
Yes dual watch still works, but this bug/coding causes TX problems. Person one has radio set to the following A 154.6 Mhz B 446 Mhz TDR is on A is active
Person two has radio set to A 146.52 B 446 TDR is on B is active
Person 2 uses slot B to call 1. Person 1 hears 2 on slot B. ok Person 1 responds to call but radio switches to slot A (its starting position) Person 2 can not hear person 1 because of freq differences.
If someone can clarify my writing then please do
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Jim Unroe rock.unroe@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Galen Thurber galenthurber@gmail.com wrote:
oh shucks, pretty much makes a 2 channel radio one. Will have to set radio's A/B to the same channel in case radio RXs on the other A/B
Now why would you do that? Dual watch still works. It is dual watch priority is what is no longer useful. And instead of setting both displays to the same frequency/channel, just disable dual watch with menu 7 (TDR). That way only the selected display (A or B) will receive.
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On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Galen Thurber galenthurber@gmail.com wrote:
Yes dual watch still works, but this bug/coding causes TX problems. Person one has radio set to the following A 154.6 Mhz B 446 Mhz TDR is on A is active
Person two has radio set to A 146.52 B 446 TDR is on B is active
Person 2 uses slot B to call 1. Person 1 hears 2 on slot B. ok Person 1 responds to call but radio switches to slot A (its starting position) Person 2 can not hear person 1 because of freq differences.
If someone can clarify my writing then please do
Galen,
What you have stated above is completely clear.
Unfortunately this is something that Baofeng has accidentally or intentionally changed. It began with the release of N5R firmware for the UV-5R series of radios and variants about a year ago. It has just recently started rolling out in the UV-82 radios with the N82 firmware.
This is the way the hardware works. CHIRP can do nothing about it.
The best you can do is get person 2 to say "this is person 2 calling on 446" so that person 1 will know which frequency to reply on.
Jim KC9HI
ok, thanks
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Jim Unroe rock.unroe@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Galen Thurber galenthurber@gmail.com wrote:
Yes dual watch still works, but this bug/coding causes TX problems. Person one has radio set to the following A 154.6 Mhz B 446 Mhz TDR is on A is active
Person two has radio set to A 146.52 B 446 TDR is on B is active
Person 2 uses slot B to call 1. Person 1 hears 2 on slot B. ok Person 1 responds to call but radio switches to slot A (its starting position) Person 2 can not hear person 1 because of freq differences.
If someone can clarify my writing then please do
Galen,
What you have stated above is completely clear.
Unfortunately this is something that Baofeng has accidentally or intentionally changed. It began with the release of N5R firmware for the UV-5R series of radios and variants about a year ago. It has just recently started rolling out in the UV-82 radios with the N82 firmware.
This is the way the hardware works. CHIRP can do nothing about it.
The best you can do is get person 2 to say "this is person 2 calling on 446" so that person 1 will know which frequency to reply on.
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My older UV-82 will go to the chanel that had the last RX. My BF-F8+ and my UV-82HP stay on the channel that I told it to be on. Of course the UV-82's have the dual ptt. I actually like the fact that it keeps the channel I selected, that way if I'm talking on one frequency and the other frequency has a station id, I can keep talking on the original frequency without fear of my radio transmitting on the wrong frequency. I see the benefit of the other as well. Of course I am new to the hobby and don't know any better yet. It just works fine for me at this time.
Sent from my android device.
-----Original Message----- From: Galen Thurber galenthurber@gmail.com To: Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Sent: Mon, 07 Sep 2015 13:47 Subject: Re: [chirp_users] UV5RE+ N5R-213 bug? Dual watch w no priority. Set to slot A, gets RX in slot B reverts to A to TX
ok, thanks
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Jim Unroe rock.unroe@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Galen Thurber galenthurber@gmail.com wrote:
Yes dual watch still works, but this bug/coding causes TX problems. Person one has radio set to the following A 154.6 Mhz B 446 Mhz TDR is on A is active
Person two has radio set to A 146.52 B 446 TDR is on B is active
Person 2 uses slot B to call 1. Person 1 hears 2 on slot B. ok Person 1 responds to call but radio switches to slot A (its starting position) Person 2 can not hear person 1 because of freq differences.
If someone can clarify my writing then please do
Galen,
What you have stated above is completely clear.
Unfortunately this is something that Baofeng has accidentally or intentionally changed. It began with the release of N5R firmware for the UV-5R series of radios and variants about a year ago. It has just recently started rolling out in the UV-82 radios with the N82 firmware.
This is the way the hardware works. CHIRP can do nothing about it.
The best you can do is get person 2 to say "this is person 2 calling on 446" so that person 1 will know which frequency to reply on.
Jim KC9HI _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
Let me put it another way. I don't want to be talking to someone on A and have the radio switch transmitting sides on me just because B had traffic on it. I have had times where 2 people both had Yaesu dual banders, listening to both the same frequencies. One person calls the other on one side, person 2 answers on the other. The conversation goes on for a few minutes until somebody notices and says something. Others listening to one or the other frequency but not the second one are trying to figure out if the person they are hearing are nuts or not, talking to themselves. Best thing to do is to identify what frequency you are on, just like Jim said.
Jardy Dawson WA7JRD Nobody really cares what device you are using, as long as YOU like it!
On Sep 7, 2015, at 06:02, Galen Thurber galenthurber@gmail.com wrote:
Yes dual watch still works, but this bug/coding causes TX problems. Person one has radio set to the following A 154.6 Mhz B 446 Mhz TDR is on A is active
Person two has radio set to A 146.52 B 446 TDR is on B is active
Person 2 uses slot B to call 1. Person 1 hears 2 on slot B. ok Person 1 responds to call but radio switches to slot A (its starting position) Person 2 can not hear person 1 because of freq differences.
If someone can clarify my writing then please do
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Jim Unroe rock.unroe@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Galen Thurber galenthurber@gmail.com wrote:
oh shucks, pretty much makes a 2 channel radio one. Will have to set radio's A/B to the same channel in case radio RXs on the other A/B
Now why would you do that? Dual watch still works. It is dual watch priority is what is no longer useful. And instead of setting both displays to the same frequency/channel, just disable dual watch with menu 7 (TDR). That way only the selected display (A or B) will receive.
Jim KC9HI _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
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