As a new user chirp is still a learning experience. The data that is used in the download sites is old and outdated on the ones that it would let me access. It would not let me look at all of the sites so I can't comment on all of them. The one that I was able to access still has repeaters listed in my area thy have been off the air for at least five years. I realize this is something chirp can not control to a certain extent but they could get a site that is more up to date and dump the sites that are still in the dark ages with their lists. I had some problems trying to down load data but I think it's due to not being use to using chirp so I need more time with the program to comment there. One site I have found that is reasonably correct on their data is Artsi but even they have a few lists that are not accurate but they seem to have more accurate data than most others.radio reference is pretty close on some stuff but has old data on others. The data that comes up when you download chirp and look at what is there is not accurate at all. It doesn't even show the repeater offset on some and on the vhf marine channels some of the channels are not even in the marine service they are public safety frequencies. All in all chirp is a good idea but it really needs some data updating and corrections by someone that is familiar with FCC band plans and repeater inputs and outputs and what frequencies are assigned to what radio services. This would make chirp a really great and very useful program. As the saying goes junk in junk out.
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Just for clarification, CHIRP was developed by a group of strictly volunteers to provide programming support for over 80 different models of transceiver, Not to provide frequency information for your area. Any data supplied is as a sample only.
It is the Users responsibility to acquire accurate data for their area, not CHIRPs. There are tens of thousands of repeaters and frequency combinations. Each source, such as Radio Reference, is responsible for their own sites accuracy. The junk in, junk out you are referring to is not CHIRP's responsibility. I recommend your contacting these data providers directly.
John Http://www.miklor.com
On Apr 15, 2015, at 1:57 AM, Mike wa4yur@gmail.com wrote:
As a new user chirp is still a learning experience. The data that is used in the download sites is old and outdated on the ones that it would let me access. It would not let me look at all of the sites so I can't comment on all of them. The one that I was able to access still has repeaters listed in my area thy have been off the air for at least five years. I realize this is something chirp can not control to a certain extent but they could get a site that is more up to date and dump the sites that are still in the dark ages with their lists. I had some problems trying to down load data but I think it's due to not being use to using chirp so I need more time with the program to comment there. One site I have found that is reasonably correct on their data is Artsi but even they have a few lists that are not accurate but they seem to have more accurate data than most others.radio reference is pretty close on some stuff but has old data on others. The data that comes up when you download chirp and look at what is there is not accurate at all. It doesn't even show the repeater offset on some and on the vhf marine channels some of the channels are not even in the marine service they are public safety frequencies. All in all chirp is a good idea but it really needs some data updating and corrections by someone that is familiar with FCC band plans and repeater inputs and outputs and what frequencies are assigned to what radio services. This would make chirp a really great and very useful program. As the saying goes junk in junk out.
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As far as I'm concerned, CHIRP is an invaluable resource, esp., since it's developed and maintained by volunteers. Were I to pay for something, I'd feel entitled to complain. But CHIRP's different. And the fact that these volunteers are keeping up with over 80 models of radios, not just the UV-5, earns, IMHO, much more respect and gratitude for its functionality.
And current frequencies I can easily get off the internet. I don't rely on CHIRP to be a "one-stop" source for all my radio needs.
Keep up the great work, folks, and thanks.
73's
Barry Leonard W9JBL DeKalb, IL
On 04/15/2015 09:01 AM, John LaMartina ☀ wrote:
Just for clarification, CHIRP was developed by a group of strictly volunteers to provide programming support for over 80 different models of transceiver, Not to provide frequency information for your area. Any data supplied is as a sample only.
It is the Users responsibility to acquire accurate data for their area, not CHIRPs. There are tens of thousands of repeaters and frequency combinations. Each source, such as Radio Reference, is responsible for their own sites accuracy. The junk in, junk out you are referring to is not CHIRP's responsibility. I recommend your contacting these data providers directly.
John Http://www.miklor.com
On Apr 15, 2015, at 1:57 AM, Mike wa4yur@gmail.com wrote:
As a new user chirp is still a learning experience. The data that is used in the download sites is old and outdated on the ones that it would let me access. It would not let me look at all of the sites so I can't comment on all of them. The one that I was able to access still has repeaters listed in my area thy have been off the air for at least five years. I realize this is something chirp can not control to a certain extent but they could get a site that is more up to date and dump the sites that are still in the dark ages with their lists. I had some problems trying to down load data but I think it's due to not being use to using chirp so I need more time with the program to comment there. One site I have found that is reasonably correct on their data is Artsi but even they have a few lists that are not accurate but they seem to have more accurate data than most others.radio reference is pretty close on some stuff but has old data on others. The data that comes up when y
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download chirp and look at what is there is not accurate at all. It doesn't even show the repeater offset on some and on the vhf marine channels some of the channels are not even in the marine service they are public safety frequencies. All in all chirp is a good idea but it really needs some data updating and corrections by someone that is familiar with FCC band plans and repeater inputs and outputs and what frequencies are assigned to what radio services. This would make chirp a really great and very useful program. As the saying goes junk in junk out.
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Do you happen to live in Texas?
Texas VHF-FM Society appears to be the regulating agency for Texas and will always have the most up to date info.
There is a link to their repeater search http://www.txvhffm.org/repeaters/repeaters.php or it may be accessed directly http://www.rfprojector.com/repeater/index.php .
The site allows search by frequency, city, county, or call sign but there is no provision for exporting the information directly into software.
I usually begin by compiling a list of possibles using RepeaterBook and then verifying using RfProjector. Searching by county will find newer entries not found by RepeaterBook as well as call sign changes.
They also sell a pamphlet of the listings for $5.
Not sure whether other states off similar resources.
Mike Earls AF5MS TSRA Life Member NRA Benefactor Member
-----Original Message----- From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:57 AM To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: [chirp_users] New user
As a new user chirp is still a learning experience. The data that is used in the download sites is old and outdated on the ones that it would let me access. It would not let me look at all of the sites so I can't comment on all of them. The one that I was able to access still has repeaters listed in my area thy have been off the air for at least five years. I realize this is something chirp can not control to a certain extent but they could get a site that is more up to date and dump the sites that are still in the dark ages with their lists. I had some problems trying to down load data but I think it's due to not being use to using chirp so I need more time with the program to comment there. One site I have found that is reasonably correct on their data is Artsi but even they have a few lists that are not accurate but they seem to have more accurate data than most others.radio reference is pretty close on some stuff but has old data on others. The data that comes up when you download chirp and look at what is there is not accurate at all. It doesn't even show the repeater offset on some and on the vhf marine channels some of the channels are not even in the marine service they are public safety frequencies. All in all chirp is a good idea but it really needs some data updating and corrections by someone that is familiar with FCC band plans and repeater inputs and outputs and what frequencies are assigned to what radio services. This would make chirp a really great and very useful program. As the saying goes junk in junk out.
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On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Mike wa4yur@gmail.com wrote:
As a new user chirp is still a learning experience. The data that is used in the download sites is old and outdated on the ones that it would let me access. It would not let me look at all of the sites so I can't comment on all of them. The one that I was able to access still has repeaters listed in my area thy have been off the air for at least five years. I realize this is something chirp can not control to a certain extent but they could get a site that is more up to date and dump the sites that are still in the dark ages with their lists. I had some problems trying to down load data but I think it's due to not being use to using chirp so I need more time with the program to comment there. One site I have found that is reasonably correct on their data is Artsi but even they have a few lists that are not accurate but they seem to have more accurate data than most others.radio reference is pretty close on some stuff but has old data on others. The data that comes up when you download chirp and look at what is there is not accurate at all. It doesn't even show the repeater offset on some and on the vhf marine channels some of the channels are not even in the marine service they are public safety frequencies. All in all chirp is a good idea but it really needs some data updating and corrections by someone that is familiar with FCC band plans and repeater inputs and outputs and what frequencies are assigned to what radio services. This would make chirp a really great and very useful program. As the saying goes junk in junk out.
I read your whole message and failed to find a complaint specific enough to be constructive. If you were a little more specific, we could act on your recommendations. When you speak in ambiguities, it just wastes everyone's time.
John and Barry are right--we focus our efforts on supporting 80+ models of radios. We could use a developer who wants to focus on the data sources. If this is you, check out the Developers info: http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Developers Once you get the code, you'll find the stock configs in the stock_configs directory.
You'll find the code to download from various data sources in the chirp directory. The data themselves come from external sources, but if what you see on their webpage and in Chirp are different, there may be an opportunity for a bugfix in our code. If the data on their webpage are wrong, well obviously you have to talk to them about that.
If you want to add Artsci (I'm guessing you meant Artsci, not Artsi), you'll have to start by talking them into building a data export service. It doesn't look like they have anything like that now. It would be a great resource if they want to allow it.
We'll be happy to guide you through the process of contributing to Chirp in the chirp_devel mailing list.
Tom KD7LXL
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