Re: [chirp_users] chirp_users Digest, Vol 177, Issue 9
Well Sean.
If you read my original post, you'd have seen that the line:-
pipx install --system-site-packages ./chirp-20230509-py3-none-any.whl
Is the line in error at this time...
As to suggesting to learn how to build a package from the sources...
Why is that not already done by the authors/maintainers? Surely they know what's needed better than anyone...
73.
Dave.
On 15/09/2023 20:00, chirp_users-request@intrepid.danplanet.com wrote:
From: Sean Dennis Out of curiosity, what step(s) in those instructions "fail [you] every time"?
Chirp is not packaged for specific distros since there would be a lot of work involved in making it work for each one and the work would multiply for each distro where it was specifically packaged.
As is the intent is for the user to install it using pip and thus it is almost universal for installation in every distro out there.
If you wish to take on the task of making packages for specific distros then by all means please volunteer.
Most of us are happy that it is available and will work for (almost) everyone as it is. Distribution as a python package and installing it with pip is universal in approach and avoids the extra overhead of meeting the multiple packaging requirements for various distros.
Jeff KI7GJG
On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 3:47 PM Dave B via chirp_users < chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
Well Sean.
If you read my original post, you'd have seen that the line:-
pipx install --system-site-packages ./chirp-20230509-py3-none-any.whlIs the line in error at this time...
As to suggesting to learn how to build a package from the sources...
Why is that not already done by the authors/maintainers? Surely they know what's needed better than anyone...
Dave.
On 15/09/2023 20:00, chirp_users-request@intrepid.danplanet.com wrote:
From: Sean Dennis Out of curiosity, what step(s) in those instructions "fail [you] every time"?
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I discovered today that the 2022 version of CHIRP which did not show under Synaptic or apt list --installed had been created, and then created under flatpack. Having done that, that's one step forward, my 2022 legacy CHIRP is now uninstalled. I still can't run chirp though anthony@anthony-System-Product-Name:~$ ~/.local/bin/chirp Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/anthony/.local/bin/chirp", line 8, in <module> sys.exit(chirpmain()) File "/home/anthony/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/chirp/wxui/__init__.py", line 65, in chirpmain import wx File "/home/anthony/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/wx/__init__.py", line 17, in <module> from wx.core import * File "/home/anthony/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/wx/core.py", line 12, in <module> from ._core import * ImportError: libpcre2-32.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
On Fri, 15 Sept 2023 at 22:23, Jeffrey Vian sandhillsinvestment@gmail.com wrote:
Chirp is not packaged for specific distros since there would be a lot of work involved in making it work for each one and the work would multiply for each distro where it was specifically packaged.
As is the intent is for the user to install it using pip and thus it is almost universal for installation in every distro out there.
If you wish to take on the task of making packages for specific distros then by all means please volunteer.
Most of us are happy that it is available and will work for (almost) everyone as it is. Distribution as a python package and installing it with pip is universal in approach and avoids the extra overhead of meeting the multiple packaging requirements for various distros.
Jeff KI7GJG
On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 3:47 PM Dave B via chirp_users < chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
Well Sean.
If you read my original post, you'd have seen that the line:-
pipx install --system-site-packages ./chirp-20230509-py3-none-any.whlIs the line in error at this time...
As to suggesting to learn how to build a package from the sources...
Why is that not already done by the authors/maintainers? Surely they know what's needed better than anyone...
Dave.
On 15/09/2023 20:00, chirp_users-request@intrepid.danplanet.com wrote:
From: Sean Dennis Out of curiosity, what step(s) in those instructions "fail [you] every time"?
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 16:22:27 -0500 Jeffrey Vian sandhillsinvestment@gmail.com wrote:
Most of us are happy that it is available and will work for (almost) everyone as it is. Distribution as a python package and installing it with pip is universal in approach and avoids the extra overhead of meeting the multiple packaging requirements for various distros.
I think that, in this case, it's a lack of knowledge about how to install Python-based software in a Linux system, which is not the responsibility of the developers, the lack of understanding error messages, and the lack of desire to learn how to fix things that go wrong with a simple Web search.
I spent 35 years in IT as a self-taught system and network administrator using Windows, Linux, and FreeBSD. Web searches saved my bacon many a time...and they still do. <G>
Side note: I have used CHIRP under all three above-mentioned operating systems without issue.
73, Sean KS4TD
So what you are saying here Sean is that it requires 35 years of experience as an IT professional in order to be able to install Chirp under Linux. Surely there must be an easier way?
On Sun, 17 Sept 2023 at 16:02, Sean Dennis sean@ks4td.us wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 16:22:27 -0500 Jeffrey Vian sandhillsinvestment@gmail.com wrote:
Most of us are happy that it is available and will work for (almost) everyone as it is. Distribution as a python package and installing it with pip is universal in approach and avoids the extra overhead of meeting the multiple packaging requirements for various distros.
I think that, in this case, it's a lack of knowledge about how to install Python-based software in a Linux system, which is not the responsibility of the developers, the lack of understanding error messages, and the lack of desire to learn how to fix things that go wrong with a simple Web search.
I spent 35 years in IT as a self-taught system and network administrator using Windows, Linux, and FreeBSD. Web searches saved my bacon many a time...and they still do. <G>
Side note: I have used CHIRP under all three above-mentioned operating systems without issue.
73, Sean KS4TD
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He didn't say that.
73
DR N1EA
On Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 12:41 PM Tony Ling tonyg7txu@gmail.com wrote:
So what you are saying here Sean is that it requires 35 years of experience as an IT professional in order to be able to install Chirp under Linux. Surely there must be an easier way?
On Sun, 17 Sept 2023 at 16:02, Sean Dennis sean@ks4td.us wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 16:22:27 -0500 Jeffrey Vian sandhillsinvestment@gmail.com wrote:
Most of us are happy that it is available and will work for (almost) everyone as it is. Distribution as a python package and installing it with pip is universal in approach and avoids the extra overhead of meeting the multiple packaging requirements for various distros.
I think that, in this case, it's a lack of knowledge about how to install Python-based software in a Linux system, which is not the responsibility of the developers, the lack of understanding error messages, and the lack of desire to learn how to fix things that go wrong with a simple Web search.
I spent 35 years in IT as a self-taught system and network administrator using Windows, Linux, and FreeBSD. Web searches saved my bacon many a time...and they still do. <G>
Side note: I have used CHIRP under all three above-mentioned operating systems without issue.
73, Sean KS4TD
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It was implied. My impression is that many Windozer refugees using Ubuntu are put off from using CHIRP due to the assumed knowledge in its installation process. G7TXU
On Sun, 17 Sept 2023 at 17:45, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. n1ea@arrl.net wrote:
He didn't say that.
73
DR N1EA
On Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 12:41 PM Tony Ling tonyg7txu@gmail.com wrote:
So what you are saying here Sean is that it requires 35 years of experience as an IT professional in order to be able to install Chirp under Linux. Surely there must be an easier way?
On Sun, 17 Sept 2023 at 16:02, Sean Dennis sean@ks4td.us wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 16:22:27 -0500 Jeffrey Vian sandhillsinvestment@gmail.com wrote:
Most of us are happy that it is available and will work for (almost) everyone as it is. Distribution as a python package and installing it with pip is universal in approach and avoids the extra overhead of meeting the multiple packaging requirements for various distros.
I think that, in this case, it's a lack of knowledge about how to install Python-based software in a Linux system, which is not the responsibility of the developers, the lack of understanding error messages, and the lack of desire to learn how to fix things that go wrong with a simple Web search.
I spent 35 years in IT as a self-taught system and network administrator using Windows, Linux, and FreeBSD. Web searches saved my bacon many a time...and they still do. <G>
Side note: I have used CHIRP under all three above-mentioned operating systems without issue.
73, Sean KS4TD
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