[chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS
I can hear the FRS radios on their respective channels, I cannot transmit on those respective channels. How can I enable the transmit on chirp? Thanks, in advance. Todd
Using your UV-5R on FRS frequencies will be a violation of Federal Law. That radio is not, nor can not be, type accepted for that service.
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:25 PM Todd J. Unkefer tunkefer@gmail.com wrote:
I can hear the FRS radios on their respective channels, I cannot transmit on those respective channels. How can I enable the transmit on chirp?
Thanks, in advance.
Todd
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Let's not play police here. I do believe that the FCC has allowed some of the FRS frequencies, now up to 2 watts. To answer the question, make sure the same frequencies are in the column next to the receive column. I don't recall if they are labeled RX and TX or what. Glenn
From: John Wuest Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 3:42 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS
Using your UV-5R on FRS frequencies will be a violation of Federal Law. That radio is not, nor can not be, type accepted for that service.
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:25 PM Todd J. Unkefer tunkefer@gmail.com wrote:
I can hear the FRS radios on their respective channels, I cannot transmit on those respective channels. How can I enable the transmit on chirp?
Thanks, in advance.
Todd
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We also do not want to be accomplices in the commission of a crime. §95.335 Operation of non-certified transmitters prohibited.
https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=513d144496fe583b1100416953ca419f&a...
GMRS and FRS regulations have changed, but unlicensed FRS does not permit any radio that has a removable antenna. Also radios have to be certified under FCC Part 95. UV-5R isn't on the list, and FCC is planning on banning the import of any radio capable of being used on a frequency that the unit is not licensed for. That is if it isn't an amateur radio, in the future any radio imported will only be able to be used on amateur radio frequencies.
Also in the near future, radios will not be legally allowed to be manufactured, imported , or sold that can be used on BOTH GMRS and FRS. This is going to cause a problem for licensed amateur radio operators who own such radios, like I do: §95.1791 Sales of GMRS/FRS combination radios prohibited.
(a) Effective September 30, 2019, no person shall be permitted to manufacture or import, sell or offer for sale any radio equipment capable of operating under both this subpart (GMRS) and subpart B (FRS) of this chapter.
FRS allows 2 watts or less on channels 1 – 7 and the previously GMRS only channels of 15 – 22, but only 0.5 watts on channels 8 – 14. GMRS licensees can use up to 50 watts, but there are somewhat complicated restrictions and an FCC 10 year renewable license (good for entire family) is needed. GMRS licensees can also operate on 8 additional repeater frequencies.
The regulations for GMRS are quite complicated. https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767
I think the past practice of this group not to provide such information to unlicensed persons is a wise one.
73 David N1EA
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:48 PM Glenn At Home glennervin@cableone.net wrote:
Let's not play police here. I do believe that the FCC has allowed some of the FRS frequencies, now up to 2 watts. To answer the question, make sure the same frequencies are in the column next to the receive column. I don't recall if they are labeled RX and TX or what. Glenn
*From:* John Wuest jhwuest@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2019 3:42 PM *To:* Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS
Using your UV-5R on FRS frequencies will be a violation of Federal Law. That radio is not, nor can not be, type accepted for that service.
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:25 PM Todd J. Unkefer tunkefer@gmail.com wrote:
I can hear the FRS radios on their respective channels, I cannot transmit on those respective channels. How can I enable the transmit on chirp?
Thanks, in advance.
Todd
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Let me rephrase this question. I legally purchased 10 motorola talkabout radios. I legally purchased a Baofeng UV 5r to communicate with different radios, legally. I appreciate the hypervigilance and concern for legalities, but my question remains. Please, anyone not referring directly to how to broadcast on a legal frequency, refrain from responding.
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From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 6:14 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS
We also do not want to be accomplices in the commission of a crime. §95.335 Operation of non-certified transmitters prohibited.
https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=513d144496fe583b1100416953ca419f&a...
GMRS and FRS regulations have changed, but unlicensed FRS does not permit any radio that has a removable antenna. Also radios have to be certified under FCC Part 95. UV-5R isn't on the list, and FCC is planning on banning the import of any radio capable of being used on a frequency that the unit is not licensed for. That is if it isn't an amateur radio, in the future any radio imported will only be able to be used on amateur radio frequencies.
Also in the near future, radios will not be legally allowed to be manufactured, imported , or sold that can be used on BOTH GMRS and FRS. This is going to cause a problem for licensed amateur radio operators who own such radios, like I do: §95.1791 Sales of GMRS/FRS combination radios prohibited. (a) Effective September 30, 2019, no person shall be permitted to manufacture or import, sell or offer for sale any radio equipment capable of operating under both this subpart (GMRS) and subpart B (FRS) of this chapter.
FRS allows 2 watts or less on channels 1 – 7 and the previously GMRS only channels of 15 – 22, but only 0.5 watts on channels 8 – 14. GMRS licensees can use up to 50 watts, but there are somewhat complicated restrictions and an FCC 10 year renewable license (good for entire family) is needed. GMRS licensees can also operate on 8 additional repeater frequencies.
The regulations for GMRS are quite complicated. https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767
I think the past practice of this group not to provide such information to unlicensed persons is a wise one.
73 David N1EA
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:48 PM Glenn At Home glennervin@cableone.net wrote: Let's not play police here. I do believe that the FCC has allowed some of the FRS frequencies, now up to 2 watts. To answer the question, make sure the same frequencies are in the column next to the receive column. I don't recall if they are labeled RX and TX or what. Glenn
From: John Wuest Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 3:42 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS
Using your UV-5R on FRS frequencies will be a violation of Federal Law. That radio is not, nor can not be, type accepted for that service.
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:25 PM Todd J. Unkefer tunkefer@gmail.com wrote: I can hear the FRS radios on their respective channels, I cannot transmit on those respective channels. How can I enable the transmit on chirp? Thanks, in advance. Todd _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to John Wuest at jhwuest@gmail.com To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
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Todd, You are not licensed in the FCC database under any service, I just did a search. The majority of us on this list are licensed Amateur Radio operators, and one of the tenets of the Amateur Radio service is that we are self-policing so that we get to keep and enjoy the freedoms in our service and get to see it grow. We would be breaking that tenet by telling you to circumvent the programming of your radio and jeopardizing this group and the Chirp program providers. I would suggest you use google and YouTube if you want to continue down that path. There are plenty of preppers that have no concern for legality, etc...
Be blessed! May this be our year of change and growth!
Gary From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com On Behalf Of Todd J. Unkefer Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 5:26 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS
This email originated from an external sender. Use caution when following links or opening attachments as they could be malicious Let me rephrase this question. I legally purchased 10 motorola talkabout radios. I legally purchased a Baofeng UV 5r to communicate with different radios, legally. I appreciate the hypervigilance and concern for legalities, but my question remains. Please, anyone not referring directly to how to broadcast on a legal frequency, refrain from responding.
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From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr.mailto:n1ea@arrl.net Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 6:14 PM To: Discussion of CHIRPmailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS
We also do not want to be accomplices in the commission of a crime. §95.335 Operation of non-certified transmitters prohibited.
https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=513d144496fe583b1100416953ca419f&a...
GMRS and FRS regulations have changed, but unlicensed FRS does not permit any radio that has a removable antenna. Also radios have to be certified under FCC Part 95. UV-5R isn't on the list, and FCC is planning on banning the import of any radio capable of being used on a frequency that the unit is not licensed for. That is if it isn't an amateur radio, in the future any radio imported will only be able to be used on amateur radio frequencies.
Also in the near future, radios will not be legally allowed to be manufactured, imported , or sold that can be used on BOTH GMRS and FRS. This is going to cause a problem for licensed amateur radio operators who own such radios, like I do: §95.1791 Sales of GMRS/FRS combination radios prohibited.
(a) Effective September 30, 2019, no person shall be permitted to manufacture or import, sell or offer for sale any radio equipment capable of operating under both this subpart (GMRS) and subpart B (FRS) of this chapter.
FRS allows 2 watts or less on channels 1 – 7 and the previously GMRS only channels of 15 – 22, but only 0.5 watts on channels 8 – 14. GMRS licensees can use up to 50 watts, but there are somewhat complicated restrictions and an FCC 10 year renewable license (good for entire family) is needed. GMRS licensees can also operate on 8 additional repeater frequencies.
The regulations for GMRS are quite complicated. https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767
I think the past practice of this group not to provide such information to unlicensed persons is a wise one.
73 David N1EA
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:48 PM Glenn At Home <glennervin@cableone.netmailto:glennervin@cableone.net> wrote: Let's not play police here. I do believe that the FCC has allowed some of the FRS frequencies, now up to 2 watts. To answer the question, make sure the same frequencies are in the column next to the receive column. I don't recall if they are labeled RX and TX or what. Glenn
From: John Wuestmailto:jhwuest@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 3:42 PM To: Discussion of CHIRPmailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS
Using your UV-5R on FRS frequencies will be a violation of Federal Law. That radio is not, nor can not be, type accepted for that service.
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:25 PM Todd J. Unkefer <tunkefer@gmail.commailto:tunkefer@gmail.com> wrote: I can hear the FRS radios on their respective channels, I cannot transmit on those respective channels. How can I enable the transmit on chirp? Thanks, in advance. Todd
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Spencer, this is one of many of these emails. This email will be followed by others. Gene
On Thursday, June 20, 2019, 11:02:57 PM CDT, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. n1ea@arrl.net wrote:
We also do not want to be accomplices in the commission of a crime. §95.335 Operation of non-certified transmitters prohibited.
https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=513d144496fe583b1100416953ca419f&a...
GMRS and FRS regulations have changed, but unlicensed FRS does not permit any radio that has a removable antenna. Also radios have to be certified under FCC Part 95. UV-5R isn't on the list, and FCC is planning on banning the import of any radio capable of being used on a frequency that the unit is not licensed for. That is if it isn't an amateur radio, in the future any radio imported will only be able to be used on amateur radio frequencies. Also in the near future, radios will not be legally allowed to be manufactured, imported , or sold that can be used on BOTH GMRS and FRS. This is going to cause a problem for licensed amateur radio operators who own such radios, like I do: §95.1791 Sales of GMRS/FRS combination radios prohibited.
(a) Effective September 30, 2019, no person shall be permitted to manufacture or import, sell or offer for sale any radio equipment capable of operating under both this subpart (GMRS) and subpart B (FRS) of this chapter.
FRS allows 2 watts or less on channels 1 – 7 and the previously GMRS only channels of 15 – 22, but only 0.5 watts on channels 8 – 14.GMRS licensees can use up to 50 watts, but there are somewhat complicated restrictions and an FCC 10 year renewable license (good for entire family) is needed. GMRS licensees can also operate on 8 additional repeater frequencies. The regulations for GMRS are quite complicated. https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767 I think the past practice of this group not to provide such information to unlicensed persons is a wise one. 73David N1EA
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:48 PM Glenn At Home glennervin@cableone.net wrote:
Let's not play police here.I do believe that the FCC has allowed some of the FRS frequencies, now up to 2 watts.To answer the question, make sure the same frequencies are in the column next to the receive column.I don't recall if they are labeled RX and TX or what.Glenn From: John Wuest Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 3:42 PMTo: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS Using your UV-5R on FRS frequencies will be a violation of Federal Law. That radio is not, nor can not be, type accepted for that service. On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:25 PM Todd J. Unkefer tunkefer@gmail.com wrote:
I can hear the FRS radios on their respective channels, I cannot transmit on those respective channels. How can I enable the transmit on chirp?
Thanks, in advance.
Todd
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I have never had any luck using FRS radios. Things have very poor range. And I am talking about the FRS radios you can buy that only do FRS. Pretty worthless in my book. Anyone else have any luck with FRS radios?
I have moved on to GoTennaMESH they work way way better.
David
On 6/22/2019 6:51 PM, Gene McKnight via chirp_users wrote:
Spencer, this is one of many of these emails. This email will be followed by others. Gene
On Thursday, June 20, 2019, 11:02:57 PM CDT, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. n1ea@arrl.net wrote:
We also do not want to be accomplices in the commission of a crime.
§95.335 Operation of non-certified transmitters prohibited.https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=513d144496fe583b1100416953ca419f&a...
GMRS and FRS regulations have changed, but unlicensed FRS does not permit any radio that has a removable antenna. Also radios have to be certified under FCC Part 95. UV-5R isn't on the list, and FCC is planning on banning the import of any radio capable of being used on a frequency that the unit is not licensed for. That is if it isn't an amateur radio, in the future any radio imported will only be able to be used on amateur radio frequencies.
Also in the near future, radios will not be legally allowed to be manufactured, imported , or sold that can be used on BOTH GMRS and FRS. This is going to cause a problem for licensed amateur radio operators who own such radios, like I do:
§95.1791 Sales of GMRS/FRS combination radios prohibited.(a) Effective September 30, 2019, no person shall be permitted to manufacture or import, sell or offer for sale any radio equipment capable of operating under both this subpart (GMRS) and subpart B (FRS) of this chapter.
FRS allows 2 watts or less on channels 1 – 7 and the previously GMRS only channels of 15 – 22, but only 0.5 watts on channels 8 – 14. GMRS licensees can use up to 50 watts, but there are somewhat complicated restrictions and an FCC 10 year renewable license (good for entire family) is needed. GMRS licensees can also operate on 8 additional repeater frequencies.
The regulations for GMRS are quite complicated. https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767
I think the past practice of this group not to provide such information to unlicensed persons is a wise one.
73 David N1EA
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:48 PM Glenn At Home <glennervin@cableone.net mailto:glennervin@cableone.net> wrote:
Let's not play police here. I do believe that the FCC has allowed some of the FRS frequencies, now up to 2 watts. To answer the question, make sure the same frequencies are in the column next to the receive column. I don't recall if they are labeled RX and TX or what. Glenn *From:* John Wuest <mailto:jhwuest@gmail.com> *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2019 3:42 PM *To:* Discussion of CHIRP <mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS Using your UV-5R on FRS frequencies will be a violation of Federal Law. That radio is not, nor can not be, type accepted for that service. On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:25 PM Todd J. Unkefer <tunkefer@gmail.com <mailto:tunkefer@gmail.com>> wrote: I can hear the FRS radios on their respective channels, I cannot transmit on those respective channels. How can I enable the transmit on chirp? Thanks, in advance. Todd _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com <mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to John Wuest at jhwuest@gmail.com <mailto:jhwuest@gmail.com> To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com <mailto:chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com <mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Glenn at glennervin@cableone.net <mailto:glennervin@cableone.net> To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com <mailto:chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com> _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com <mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to D.J.J. Ring, Jr. at n1ea@arrl.net <mailto:n1ea@arrl.net> To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com <mailto:chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com>
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Even well branded ones, like the Motorola ones have a poor range, like a block or two at best. They are useful around one's urban property, but that's about all they are good for. Glenn
From: David Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 7:50 PM To: Gene McKnight via chirp_users Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS
I have never had any luck using FRS radios. Things have very poor range. And I am talking about the FRS radios you can buy that only do FRS. Pretty worthless in my book. Anyone else have any luck with FRS radios?
I have moved on to GoTennaMESH they work way way better.
David
On 6/22/2019 6:51 PM, Gene McKnight via chirp_users wrote:
Spencer, this is one of many of these emails. This email will be followed by others. Gene
On Thursday, June 20, 2019, 11:02:57 PM CDT, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. n1ea@arrl.net wrote:
We also do not want to be accomplices in the commission of a crime. §95.335 Operation of non-certified transmitters prohibited.
https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=513d144496fe583b1100416953ca419f&a...
GMRS and FRS regulations have changed, but unlicensed FRS does not permit any radio that has a removable antenna. Also radios have to be certified under FCC Part 95. UV-5R isn't on the list, and FCC is planning on banning the import of any radio capable of being used on a frequency that the unit is not licensed for. That is if it isn't an amateur radio, in the future any radio imported will only be able to be used on amateur radio frequencies.
Also in the near future, radios will not be legally allowed to be manufactured, imported , or sold that can be used on BOTH GMRS and FRS. This is going to cause a problem for licensed amateur radio operators who own such radios, like I do: §95.1791 Sales of GMRS/FRS combination radios prohibited. (a) Effective September 30, 2019, no person shall be permitted to manufacture or import, sell or offer for sale any radio equipment capable of operating under both this subpart (GMRS) and subpart B (FRS) of this chapter.
FRS allows 2 watts or less on channels 1 – 7 and the previously GMRS only channels of 15 – 22, but only 0.5 watts on channels 8 – 14. GMRS licensees can use up to 50 watts, but there are somewhat complicated restrictions and an FCC 10 year renewable license (good for entire family) is needed. GMRS licensees can also operate on 8 additional repeater frequencies.
The regulations for GMRS are quite complicated. https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767
I think the past practice of this group not to provide such information to unlicensed persons is a wise one.
73 David N1EA
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:48 PM Glenn At Home glennervin@cableone.net wrote:
Let's not play police here. I do believe that the FCC has allowed some of the FRS frequencies, now up to 2 watts. To answer the question, make sure the same frequencies are in the column next to the receive column. I don't recall if they are labeled RX and TX or what. Glenn
From: John Wuest Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 3:42 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS
Using your UV-5R on FRS frequencies will be a violation of Federal Law. That radio is not, nor can not be, type accepted for that service.
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:25 PM Todd J. Unkefer tunkefer@gmail.com wrote:
I can hear the FRS radios on their respective channels, I cannot transmit on those respective channels. How can I enable the transmit on chirp?
Thanks, in advance.
Todd
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Used them years ago at Disney World with success, but would far prefer a ham HT, especially in Disney, where they have on-campus VHF and UHF repeaters. http://w2abc.org/w2abc/our-disney-ham-radio-partners/
Tom Henderson
On 6/22/19 7:56 PM, Glenn At Home wrote:
Even well branded ones, like the Motorola ones have a poor range, like a block or two at best. They are useful around one's urban property, but that's about all they are good for. Glenn
*From:* David mailto:weather@lightingunlimited.com *Sent:* Saturday, June 22, 2019 7:50 PM *To:* Gene McKnight via chirp_users mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS
I have never had any luck using FRS radios. Things have very poor range. And I am talking about the FRS radios you can buy that only do FRS. Pretty worthless in my book. Anyone else have any luck with FRS radios?
I have moved on to GoTennaMESH they work way way better.
David
On 6/22/2019 6:51 PM, Gene McKnight via chirp_users wrote:
Spencer, this is one of many of these emails. This email will be followed by others. Gene
On Thursday, June 20, 2019, 11:02:57 PM CDT, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. n1ea@arrl.net wrote:
We also do not want to be accomplices in the commission of a crime.
§95.335 Operation of non-certified transmitters prohibited.https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=513d144496fe583b1100416953ca419f&a...
GMRS and FRS regulations have changed, but unlicensed FRS does not permit any radio that has a removable antenna. Also radios have to be certified under FCC Part 95. UV-5R isn't on the list, and FCC is planning on banning the import of any radio capable of being used on a frequency that the unit is not licensed for. That is if it isn't an amateur radio, in the future any radio imported will only be able to be used on amateur radio frequencies.
Also in the near future, radios will not be legally allowed to be manufactured, imported , or sold that can be used on BOTH GMRS and FRS. This is going to cause a problem for licensed amateur radio operators who own such radios, like I do:
§95.1791 Sales of GMRS/FRS combination radios prohibited.(a) Effective September 30, 2019, no person shall be permitted to manufacture or import, sell or offer for sale any radio equipment capable of operating under both this subpart (GMRS) and subpart B (FRS) of this chapter.
FRS allows 2 watts or less on channels 1 – 7 and the previously GMRS only channels of 15 – 22, but only 0.5 watts on channels 8 – 14. GMRS licensees can use up to 50 watts, but there are somewhat complicated restrictions and an FCC 10 year renewable license (good for entire family) is needed. GMRS licensees can also operate on 8 additional repeater frequencies.
The regulations for GMRS are quite complicated. https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767
I think the past practice of this group not to provide such information to unlicensed persons is a wise one.
73 David N1EA
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:48 PM Glenn At Home <glennervin@cableone.net mailto:glennervin@cableone.net> wrote:
Let's not play police here. I do believe that the FCC has allowed some of the FRS frequencies, now up to 2 watts. To answer the question, make sure the same frequencies are in the column next to the receive column. I don't recall if they are labeled RX and TX or what. Glenn *From:* John Wuest <mailto:jhwuest@gmail.com> *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2019 3:42 PM *To:* Discussion of CHIRP <mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS Using your UV-5R on FRS frequencies will be a violation of Federal Law. That radio is not, nor can not be, type accepted for that service. On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:25 PM Todd J. Unkefer <tunkefer@gmail.com <mailto:tunkefer@gmail.com>> wrote: I can hear the FRS radios on their respective channels, I cannot transmit on those respective channels. How can I enable the transmit on chirp? Thanks, in advance. Todd _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com <mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to John Wuest at jhwuest@gmail.com <mailto:jhwuest@gmail.com> To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com <mailto:chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com <mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Glenn at glennervin@cableone.net <mailto:glennervin@cableone.net> To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com <mailto:chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com> _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com <mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to D.J.J. Ring, Jr. at n1ea@arrl.net <mailto:n1ea@arrl.net> To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com <mailto:chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com>
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FRS can be ok in a SAR situation where you have a team of searchers spread out a hundred feet or so, with one member having a real radio to talk to base camp, etc.
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On Jun 22, 2019, at 17:50, David weather@lightingunlimited.com wrote:
I have never had any luck using FRS radios. Things have very poor range. And I am talking about the FRS radios you can buy that only do FRS. Pretty worthless in my book. Anyone else have any luck with FRS radios?
I have moved on to GoTennaMESH they work way way better.
David
On 6/22/2019 6:51 PM, Gene McKnight via chirp_users wrote:
Spencer, this is one of many of these emails. This email will be followed by others. Gene
On Thursday, June 20, 2019, 11:02:57 PM CDT, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. n1ea@arrl.net wrote:
We also do not want to be accomplices in the commission of a crime. §95.335 Operation of non-certified transmitters prohibited.
https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=513d144496fe583b1100416953ca419f&a...
GMRS and FRS regulations have changed, but unlicensed FRS does not permit any radio that has a removable antenna. Also radios have to be certified under FCC Part 95. UV-5R isn't on the list, and FCC is planning on banning the import of any radio capable of being used on a frequency that the unit is not licensed for. That is if it isn't an amateur radio, in the future any radio imported will only be able to be used on amateur radio frequencies.
Also in the near future, radios will not be legally allowed to be manufactured, imported , or sold that can be used on BOTH GMRS and FRS. This is going to cause a problem for licensed amateur radio operators who own such radios, like I do: §95.1791 Sales of GMRS/FRS combination radios prohibited. (a) Effective September 30, 2019, no person shall be permitted to manufacture or import, sell or offer for sale any radio equipment capable of operating under both this subpart (GMRS) and subpart B (FRS) of this chapter.
FRS allows 2 watts or less on channels 1 – 7 and the previously GMRS only channels of 15 – 22, but only 0.5 watts on channels 8 – 14. GMRS licensees can use up to 50 watts, but there are somewhat complicated restrictions and an FCC 10 year renewable license (good for entire family) is needed. GMRS licensees can also operate on 8 additional repeater frequencies.
The regulations for GMRS are quite complicated. https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767
I think the past practice of this group not to provide such information to unlicensed persons is a wise one.
73 David N1EA
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:48 PM Glenn At Home glennervin@cableone.net wrote: Let's not play police here. I do believe that the FCC has allowed some of the FRS frequencies, now up to 2 watts. To answer the question, make sure the same frequencies are in the column next to the receive column. I don't recall if they are labeled RX and TX or what. Glenn
From: John Wuest Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 3:42 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS
Using your UV-5R on FRS frequencies will be a violation of Federal Law. That radio is not, nor can not be, type accepted for that service.
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:25 PM Todd J. Unkefer tunkefer@gmail.com wrote: I can hear the FRS radios on their respective channels, I cannot transmit on those respective channels. How can I enable the transmit on chirp?
Thanks, in advance.
Todd
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C'mon, folks. Lets get real.
In a life or death scenario, I'll use any radio, on any frequency, to summon aid. Afterward we can deal with legal.
The medical certifications I held as a field qualified member of the Southern Arizona Rescue Association are not current, but in a life or death situation, I'll still render first aid, CPR, rescue breathing, or anything else I was recently certified to perform, regardless of my legal liability. I would not act recklessly, and would act within my training.
Yes, I could be sued; no, I wouldn't be covered by the Good Samaritan law. But if I could save a limb or a life, I would provide aid. Saving a life is more important than laws.
Just my personal belief. Not a reflection on SARA training or philosophy, nor on FCC regulations.
<end rant>
Ed K6ESS Sacramento CA
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On Sun, Jun 23, 2019, 22:14 Paul Duer duerhome@mail.com wrote:
The law is humanity's best attempt at justice, but it is fallible. It often makes criminals of decent people. I cannot imagine any jury convicting someone, licensed or not, of using a non-type accepted radio on an FRS channel in the course of saving life, limb or property.
Paul Duer
*Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 3:11 PM *From:* "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." n1ea@arrl.net *To:* "Discussion of CHIRP" chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS We also do not want to be accomplices in the commission of a crime. §95.335 Operation of non-certified transmitters prohibited.
https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=513d144496fe583b1100416953ca419f&a...
GMRS and FRS regulations have changed, but unlicensed FRS does not permit any radio that has a removable antenna. Also radios have to be certified under FCC Part 95. UV-5R isn't on the list, and FCC is planning on banning the import of any radio capable of being used on a frequency that the unit is not licensed for. That is if it isn't an amateur radio, in the future any radio imported will only be able to be used on amateur radio frequencies.
Also in the near future, radios will not be legally allowed to be manufactured, imported , or sold that can be used on BOTH GMRS and FRS. This is going to cause a problem for licensed amateur radio operators who own such radios, like I do: §95.1791 Sales of GMRS/FRS combination radios prohibited.
(a) Effective September 30, 2019, no person shall be permitted to manufacture or import, sell or offer for sale any radio equipment capable of operating under both this subpart (GMRS) and subpart B (FRS) of this chapter.
FRS allows 2 watts or less on channels 1 – 7 and the previously GMRS only channels of 15 – 22, but only 0.5 watts on channels 8 – 14. GMRS licensees can use up to 50 watts, but there are somewhat complicated restrictions and an FCC 10 year renewable license (good for entire family) is needed. GMRS licensees can also operate on 8 additional repeater frequencies.
The regulations for GMRS are quite complicated. https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767
I think the past practice of this group not to provide such information to unlicensed persons is a wise one.
73 David N1EA
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:48 PM Glenn At Home glennervin@cableone.net wrote:
Let's not play police here. I do believe that the FCC has allowed some of the FRS frequencies, now up to 2 watts. To answer the question, make sure the same frequencies are in the column next to the receive column. I don't recall if they are labeled RX and TX or what. Glenn
*From:* John Wuest jhwuest@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2019 3:42 PM *To:* Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS
Using your UV-5R on FRS frequencies will be a violation of Federal Law. That radio is not, nor can not be, type accepted for that service.
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:25 PM Todd J. Unkefer tunkefer@gmail.com wrote:
I can hear the FRS radios on their respective channels, I cannot transmit on those respective channels. How can I enable the transmit on chirp?
Thanks, in advance.
Todd
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Agreed and well stated!
On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 1:56 AM Ed Sherlock k6ess.ed@gmail.com wrote:
C'mon, folks. Lets get real.
In a life or death scenario, I'll use any radio, on any frequency, to summon aid. Afterward we can deal with legal.
The medical certifications I held as a field qualified member of the Southern Arizona Rescue Association are not current, but in a life or death situation, I'll still render first aid, CPR, rescue breathing, or anything else I was recently certified to perform, regardless of my legal liability. I would not act recklessly, and would act within my training.
Yes, I could be sued; no, I wouldn't be covered by the Good Samaritan law. But if I could save a limb or a life, I would provide aid. Saving a life is more important than laws.
Just my personal belief. Not a reflection on SARA training or philosophy, nor on FCC regulations.
<end rant>
Ed K6ESS Sacramento CA
Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler. Albert Einstein
On Sun, Jun 23, 2019, 22:14 Paul Duer duerhome@mail.com wrote:
The law is humanity's best attempt at justice, but it is fallible. It often makes criminals of decent people. I cannot imagine any jury convicting someone, licensed or not, of using a non-type accepted radio on an FRS channel in the course of saving life, limb or property.
Paul Duer
*Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 3:11 PM *From:* "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." n1ea@arrl.net *To:* "Discussion of CHIRP" chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS We also do not want to be accomplices in the commission of a crime. §95.335 Operation of non-certified transmitters prohibited.
https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=513d144496fe583b1100416953ca419f&a...
GMRS and FRS regulations have changed, but unlicensed FRS does not permit any radio that has a removable antenna. Also radios have to be certified under FCC Part 95. UV-5R isn't on the list, and FCC is planning on banning the import of any radio capable of being used on a frequency that the unit is not licensed for. That is if it isn't an amateur radio, in the future any radio imported will only be able to be used on amateur radio frequencies.
Also in the near future, radios will not be legally allowed to be manufactured, imported , or sold that can be used on BOTH GMRS and FRS. This is going to cause a problem for licensed amateur radio operators who own such radios, like I do: §95.1791 Sales of GMRS/FRS combination radios prohibited.
(a) Effective September 30, 2019, no person shall be permitted to manufacture or import, sell or offer for sale any radio equipment capable of operating under both this subpart (GMRS) and subpart B (FRS) of this chapter.
FRS allows 2 watts or less on channels 1 – 7 and the previously GMRS only channels of 15 – 22, but only 0.5 watts on channels 8 – 14. GMRS licensees can use up to 50 watts, but there are somewhat complicated restrictions and an FCC 10 year renewable license (good for entire family) is needed. GMRS licensees can also operate on 8 additional repeater frequencies.
The regulations for GMRS are quite complicated. https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767
I think the past practice of this group not to provide such information to unlicensed persons is a wise one.
73 David N1EA
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:48 PM Glenn At Home glennervin@cableone.net wrote:
Let's not play police here. I do believe that the FCC has allowed some of the FRS frequencies, now up to 2 watts. To answer the question, make sure the same frequencies are in the column next to the receive column. I don't recall if they are labeled RX and TX or what. Glenn
*From:* John Wuest jhwuest@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2019 3:42 PM *To:* Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS
Using your UV-5R on FRS frequencies will be a violation of Federal Law. That radio is not, nor can not be, type accepted for that service.
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:25 PM Todd J. Unkefer tunkefer@gmail.com wrote:
I can hear the FRS radios on their respective channels, I cannot transmit on those respective channels. How can I enable the transmit on chirp?
Thanks, in advance.
Todd
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That's partially correct. FRS/GMRS still requires FCC Part 95 certified radios and the UV-5R isn't.
For more information on the 2017 FCC rule change see the links to the FCC, Federal Register and e-CFR documents at the top of this page: https://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/FRS/GMRS_combined_channel_chart
Tom ND5Y
I do believe that the FCC has allowed some of the FRS frequencies, now up to 2 watts.
On 2019-06-20 13:42, John Wuest wrote:
Using your UV-5R on FRS frequencies will be a violation of Federal Law. That radio is not, nor can not be, type accepted for that service.
There's always 97.403, which allow using "any means of radiocommunication at its disposal to provide essential communication needs in connection with the immediate safety of human life and immediate protection of property when normal communication systems are not available." 97.405 lays out another allowed circumstance.
The OP, particularly being Mormon, I assumed might be talking about using the radios in an 'emergency' context.
In my local CERT group, I would guess about 20% of members are AROs. I could easily imagine a context where a strike team is assigned an FRS frequency for inter-team comms and a dual-mode station stands by to relay information to the EOC over Amateur Radio. If that's me, holding a Part-97 radio that can tx/rx on FRS, I'm okay with that.
A downside with this plan is that one can't practice. Drills and exercises aren't a legitimate emergency.
Benton 20jun19 -- NX7O benton@siletzbay.com
97.403 only applies to amateur radio and specifically says: https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?&mc=true&node=se47.5.97_1403&a... "No provision of these rules prevents the use by an amateur station of any means of radiocommunication at its disposal to provide essential communication needs in connection with the immediate safety of human life and immediate protection of property when normal communication systems are not available."
Notice how it says "an amateur station". It does not say "any person" or "any unlicensed person can transmit on any frequency they want with non-FCC approved equipment".
Tom ND5Y
There's always 97.403, which allow using "any means of radiocommunication at its disposal to provide essential communication needs in connection with the immediate safety of human life and immediate protection of property when normal communication systems are not available."
On 2019-06-21 07:19, Tom Consodine, ND5Y via chirp_users wrote:
97.403 only applies to amateur radio and specifically says: https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?&mc=true&node=se47.5.97_1403&a... "No provision of these rules prevents the use by an amateur station of any means of radiocommunication at its disposal to provide essential communication needs in connection with the immediate safety of human life and immediate protection of property when normal communication systems are not available."
Notice how it says "an amateur station". It does not say "any person" or "any unlicensed person can transmit on any frequency they want with non-FCC approved equipment".
Tom ND5Y
Yeah, I assumed the person holding the Part-97 radio would be a licensed amateur. I was just trying to counter-point the folks making the *absolute* assertion that it's never legal. I thought my example clarified that as an ARO, I might have a legitimate use for the mode.
Thank-you for the more complete answer.
Hope you're having a stellar solstice.
Benton 21jun19 -- NX7O benton@siletzbay.com
On Thursday, June 20, 2019, 11:12:59 PM CDT, benton@siletzbay.com benton@siletzbay.com wrote:
On 2019-06-20 13:42, John Wuest wrote:
Using your UV-5R on FRS frequencies will be a violation of Federal Law. That radio is not, nor can not be, type accepted for that service.
There's always 97.403, which allow using "any means of radiocommunication at its disposal to provide essential communication needs in connection with the immediate safety of human life and immediate protection of property when normal communication systems are not available." 97.405 lays out another allowed circumstance.
The OP, particularly being Mormon, I assumed might be talking about using the radios in an 'emergency' context.
In my local CERT group, I would guess about 20% of members are AROs. I could easily imagine a context where a strike team is assigned an FRS frequency for inter-team comms and a dual-mode station stands by to relay information to the EOC over Amateur Radio. If that's me, holding a Part-97 radio that can tx/rx on FRS, I'm okay with that.
A downside with this plan is that one can't practice. Drills and exercises aren't a legitimate emergency.
Benton 20jun19 -- NX7O benton@siletzbay.com
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