[chirp_users] CHIRP for Android?
Forgive me for asking, but I searched the last few months of mailing list archives, both on the user and the dev side, without finding a roadmap or references to an Android version.
Are there any plans? If not, what's the best way to contact the developers to discuss? If yes, how can I offer assistance? (testing or coding)
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Rich Barstow kc1bhr@barstow.cx wrote:
Forgive me for asking, but I searched the last few months of mailing list archives, both on the user and the dev side, without finding a roadmap or references to an Android version.
Are there any plans? If not, what's the best way to contact the developers to discuss? If yes, how can I offer assistance? (testing or coding)
The reason you don't see it discussed here often is because it's in the FAQ.
Some of the technical issues are listed here: http://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/1369
Feel free to discuss a port of Chirp to Android, but realize that none of the GUI code is compatible. The underlying radio clone code should run fine on Android devices with serial ports. If you are an Android developer with some free time, you could make a few people happy by rewriting Chirp for Android.
Tom KD7LXL
If what you want is a small footprint computer running CHIRP to carry in a go box try a Raspberry Pi or a Beaglebone Black. Both will fill the bill just fine.
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Tom Hayward esarfl@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Rich Barstow kc1bhr@barstow.cx wrote:
Forgive me for asking, but I searched the last few months of mailing list archives, both on the user and the dev side, without finding a roadmap or references to an Android version.
Are there any plans? If not, what's the best way to contact the
developers
to discuss? If yes, how can I offer assistance? (testing or coding)
The reason you don't see it discussed here often is because it's in the FAQ.
Some of the technical issues are listed here: http://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/1369
Feel free to discuss a port of Chirp to Android, but realize that none of the GUI code is compatible. The underlying radio clone code should run fine on Android devices with serial ports. If you are an Android developer with some free time, you could make a few people happy by rewriting Chirp for Android.
Tom KD7LXL _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
Chirp works well on my 10" Dell Netbook and Windows XP all on a 7.5 gigabyte solid state hard drive. I picked mine up used for $75. off Ebay. I use a USB mouse and keyboard if I need a little bigger keyboard. Probably a good way to go if you plan on using Chirp in the field.
________________________________ From: Ronny Julian k4rjjradio@gmail.com To: Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP for Android?
If what you want is a small footprint computer running CHIRP to carry in a go box try a Raspberry Pi or a Beaglebone Black. Both will fill the bill just fine.
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Tom Hayward esarfl@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Rich Barstow kc1bhr@barstow.cx wrote:
Forgive me for asking, but I searched the last few months of mailing list archives, both on the user and the dev side, without finding a roadmap or references to an Android version.
Are there any plans? If not, what's the best way to contact the developers to discuss? If yes, how can I offer assistance? (testing or coding)
The reason you don't see it discussed here often is because it's in the FAQ.
Some of the technical issues are listed here: http://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/1369
Feel free to discuss a port of Chirp to Android, but realize that none of the GUI code is compatible. The underlying radio clone code should run fine on Android devices with serial ports. If you are an Android developer with some free time, you could make a few people happy by rewriting Chirp for Android.
Tom KD7LXL _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
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I agree with Milt. I blew the dust off my wife's old Asus Netbook. Great for field programming with CHIRP
John K3NXU http://www.miklor.com
From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Milton Hywatt Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 11:43 AM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP for Android?
Chirp works well on my 10" Dell Netbook and Windows XP all on a 7.5 gigabyte solid state hard drive. I picked mine up used for $75. off Ebay. I use a USB mouse and keyboard if I need a little bigger keyboard. Probably a good way to go if you plan on using Chirp in the field.
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From: Ronny Julian k4rjjradio@gmail.com To: Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP for Android?
If what you want is a small footprint computer running CHIRP to carry in a go box try a Raspberry Pi or a Beaglebone Black. Both will fill the bill just fine.
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Tom Hayward esarfl@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Rich Barstow kc1bhr@barstow.cx wrote:
Forgive me for asking, but I searched the last few months of mailing list archives, both on the user and the dev side, without finding a roadmap or references to an Android version.
Are there any plans? If not, what's the best way to contact the developers to discuss? If yes, how can I offer assistance? (testing or coding)
The reason you don't see it discussed here often is because it's in the FAQ.
Some of the technical issues are listed here: http://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/1369
Feel free to discuss a port of Chirp to Android, but realize that none of the GUI code is compatible. The underlying radio clone code should run fine on Android devices with serial ports. If you are an Android developer with some free time, you could make a few people happy by rewriting Chirp for Android.
Tom KD7LXL _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
_______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
Thanks to all for the responses.
Q: Where would be the place to start discussion around an Android effort?
Based on the comments in the linked Feature #1369, Android is not in scope or on the roadmap for the existing development team. It sounds as if the existing code base could be forked for the new platform, based on the existing separation between the driver/radio/clone logic and UI. The fact that there is a commandline tool (even if very neglected) may provide an additional starting point.
Ideally, I'd like a new community of developers (I have some in mind) to support such an effort, so as to not add work to the existing devs. At the same time, there's a tremendous amount of knowledge the existing team has developed, and I'd like to leverage as much of that as is reasonable.
Disclaimer: I'm not a developer (I've done it, and I know what I'm not good at). Scripting and admin-type work, or project management, that I can do.
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 12:30 PM, John LaMartina JohnLa@usa.net wrote:
I agree with Milt. I blew the dust off my wife's old Asus Netbook. Great for field programming with CHIRP
John K3NXU http://www.miklor.com
*From:* chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] *On Behalf Of *Milton Hywatt *Sent:* Sunday, April 06, 2014 11:43 AM *To:* Discussion of CHIRP *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP for Android?
Chirp works well on my 10" Dell Netbook and Windows XP all on a 7.5 gigabyte solid state hard drive. I picked mine up used for $75. off Ebay. I use a USB mouse and keyboard if I need a little bigger keyboard. Probably a good way to go if you plan on using Chirp in the field.
*From:* Ronny Julian k4rjjradio@gmail.com *To:* Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 6, 2014 11:29 AM *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP for Android?
If what you want is a small footprint computer running CHIRP to carry in a go box try a Raspberry Pi or a Beaglebone Black. Both will fill the bill just fine.
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Tom Hayward esarfl@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Rich Barstow kc1bhr@barstow.cx wrote:
Forgive me for asking, but I searched the last few months of mailing list archives, both on the user and the dev side, without finding a roadmap or references to an Android version.
Are there any plans? If not, what's the best way to contact the
developers
to discuss? If yes, how can I offer assistance? (testing or coding)
The reason you don't see it discussed here often is because it's in the FAQ.
Some of the technical issues are listed here: http://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/1369
Feel free to discuss a port of Chirp to Android, but realize that none of the GUI code is compatible. The underlying radio clone code should run fine on Android devices with serial ports. If you are an Android developer with some free time, you could make a few people happy by rewriting Chirp for Android.
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In my early Android days I did a lot of data mining Using Google for any information I could get my hands on. I guess if you are lucky to find people that know and program both PyGTK and the Android GUI would be a good start. Like mentioned before the actual guts of the program that moves, collects and organizes the data portion would probably have no trouble in Android. It's just the GUI that would have to be redone. As far as steering you a little closer taking some of the research work out I'm not your man. However one of the Chirp coders named Jens seemed to be fairly familiar with some different tools out there that could help with a GUI conversion. Might keep watching this topic and see if he chimes in. It's been discussed in the past 3 months or so.
________________________________ From: Rich Barstow kc1bhr@barstow.cx To: Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP for Android?
Thanks to all for the responses.
Q: Where would be the place to start discussion around an Android effort?
Based on the comments in the linked Feature #1369, Android is not in scope or on the roadmap for the existing development team. It sounds as if the existing code base could be forked for the new platform, based on the existing separation between the driver/radio/clone logic and UI. The fact that there is a commandline tool (even if very neglected) may provide an additional starting point.
Ideally, I'd like a new community of developers (I have some in mind) to support such an effort, so as to not add work to the existing devs. At the same time, there's a tremendous amount of knowledge the existing team has developed, and I'd like to leverage as much of that as is reasonable.
Disclaimer: I'm not a developer (I've done it, and I know what I'm not good at). Scripting and admin-type work, or project management, that I can do.
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 12:30 PM, John LaMartina JohnLa@usa.net wrote:
I agree with Milt.
I blew the dust off my wife’s old Asus Netbook. Great for field programming with CHIRP
John K3NXU http://www.miklor.com
From:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Milton Hywatt Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 11:43 AM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP for Android? Chirp works well on my 10" Dell Netbook and Windows XP all on a 7.5 gigabyte solid state hard drive. I picked mine up used for $75. off Ebay. I use a USB mouse and keyboard if I need a little bigger keyboard. Probably a good way to go if you plan on using Chirp in the field.
From:Ronny Julian k4rjjradio@gmail.com To: Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP for Android? If what you want is a small footprint computer running CHIRP to carry in a go box try a Raspberry Pi or a Beaglebone Black. Both will fill the bill just fine. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Tom Hayward esarfl@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Rich Barstow kc1bhr@barstow.cx wrote:
Forgive me for asking, but I searched the last few months of mailing list archives, both on the user and the dev side, without finding a roadmap or references to an Android version.
Are there any plans? If not, what's the best way to contact the developers to discuss? If yes, how can I offer assistance? (testing or coding)
The reason you don't see it discussed here often is because it's in the FAQ.
Some of the technical issues are listed here: http://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/1369
Feel free to discuss a port of Chirp to Android, but realize that none of the GUI code is compatible. The underlying radio clone code should run fine on Android devices with serial ports. If you are an Android developer with some free time, you could make a few people happy by rewriting Chirp for Android.
Tom KD7LXL _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
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We can have this discussion on the chirp_devel mailing list: http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_devel
Don't expect a whole lot of involvement or expertise from the current Chirp devs. I don't think any of us have worked with Android much. We can help you understand the codebase enough to build another GUI for it.
I'd use one of the Python for Android projects, like Kivy, to load Chirp's Python radio clone code. If you keep everything in Chirp's "chirp" folder the same, you'll be able to use new radio drivers as they're released. Everything in the "chirpui" folder will need to be rewritten.
Tom KD7LXL
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Rich Barstow kc1bhr@barstow.cx wrote:
Thanks to all for the responses.
Q: Where would be the place to start discussion around an Android effort?
Based on the comments in the linked Feature #1369, Android is not in scope or on the roadmap for the existing development team. It sounds as if the existing code base could be forked for the new platform, based on the existing separation between the driver/radio/clone logic and UI. The fact that there is a commandline tool (even if very neglected) may provide an additional starting point.
Ideally, I'd like a new community of developers (I have some in mind) to support such an effort, so as to not add work to the existing devs. At the same time, there's a tremendous amount of knowledge the existing team has developed, and I'd like to leverage as much of that as is reasonable.
Disclaimer: I'm not a developer (I've done it, and I know what I'm not good at). Scripting and admin-type work, or project management, that I can do.
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 12:30 PM, John LaMartina JohnLa@usa.net wrote:
I agree with Milt. I blew the dust off my wife’s old Asus Netbook. Great for field programming with CHIRP
John K3NXU http://www.miklor.com
From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Milton Hywatt Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 11:43 AM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP for Android?
Chirp works well on my 10" Dell Netbook and Windows XP all on a 7.5 gigabyte solid state hard drive. I picked mine up used for $75. off Ebay. I use a USB mouse and keyboard if I need a little bigger keyboard. Probably a good way to go if you plan on using Chirp in the field.
From: Ronny Julian k4rjjradio@gmail.com To: Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP for Android?
If what you want is a small footprint computer running CHIRP to carry in a go box try a Raspberry Pi or a Beaglebone Black. Both will fill the bill just fine.
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Tom Hayward esarfl@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Rich Barstow kc1bhr@barstow.cx wrote:
Forgive me for asking, but I searched the last few months of mailing list archives, both on the user and the dev side, without finding a roadmap or references to an Android version.
Are there any plans? If not, what's the best way to contact the developers to discuss? If yes, how can I offer assistance? (testing or coding)
The reason you don't see it discussed here often is because it's in the FAQ.
Some of the technical issues are listed here: http://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/1369
Feel free to discuss a port of Chirp to Android, but realize that none of the GUI code is compatible. The underlying radio clone code should run fine on Android devices with serial ports. If you are an Android developer with some free time, you could make a few people happy by rewriting Chirp for Android.
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