Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng UV5R Flashing
Thanks for the update of flashing protocols for the UV5R.
Sadly I did not pick up on any WARNINGS pertaining to this requirement in the various dialogues when running the cloning sequences. And, to boot, I didn't save an original copy of the image either (dumb, it was recommended).
Now I've have 4 UV5R's all literally cloned to be the same, and possibly not operating optimally as I have observed failure to break squealch and low power output on the latest 2 I've done. From what I'm guessing, only 1 of them has a proper flash image, and that is probably the first one I did.
No idea if this situation is recoverable, but it doesn't sound good.
The concept of what "cloning" means needs better clarification. In some, programming software clones the configuration. In these Baofeng's with CHIRP, it sounds like it is a memory download from the HT, patch to retrieve/stuff values, then upload to the HT. If you change the baseline image, lots of stuff gets messed up, and no "reset all" will fix it.
Wonder how many others have been bitten by this, wanting to have their pair of HT's configured the same.
Any recovery suggestions most welcomed.
Thanks, and 73, Don
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 10:41:50 -0500 (EST)
From: "Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF" nigel@ngunn.net Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng UV5R Flashing To: Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Message-ID: 1214392741.187421.1511278910720@email.1and1.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Don't ever use an image from another radio. Download an original image (as it came from the manufacturer) from every radio and work with those. You can easily copy and paste between these images. Always upload the correct image to the correct radio.
On 21 November 2017 at 10:25 va7iq@geeksonradios.com wrote:
I have several UV5R's and am starting to wonder how the flashing algorithm works. This is due to odd behaviors that I "think" I am seeing.
When flashing, is the total memory replaced included in-factory configuration elements?
The reason I ask is that I bought a new unit which was serving for data aok, then after flashing an image (including channels) from another device, it seemed to degrade performance.
The purpose of my question is to clarify whether I need to flash units only with their native image updated with data since factory parameters may be impacted by using another image as a baseline.
Thanks, Don VA7IQ / AE7UP
The early uv5rc units and maybe still available had menu set 40 as a reset function. Options are vfo / all. I believe that all was described as a factory reset function. Please check against your fw.
Fred VA6FRM
On Nov 21, 2017 11:36 PM, va7iq@geeksonradios.com wrote:
Thanks for the update of flashing protocols for the UV5R.
Sadly I did not pick up on any WARNINGS pertaining to this requirement in the various dialogues when running the cloning sequences. And, to boot, I didn't save an original copy of the image either (dumb, it was recommended).
Now I've have 4 UV5R's all literally cloned to be the same, and possibly not operating optimally as I have observed failure to break squealch and low power output on the latest 2 I've done. From what I'm guessing, only 1 of them has a proper flash image, and that is probably the first one I did.
No idea if this situation is recoverable, but it doesn't sound good.
The concept of what "cloning" means needs better clarification. In some, programming software clones the configuration. In these Baofeng's with CHIRP, it sounds like it is a memory download from the HT, patch to retrieve/stuff values, then upload to the HT. If you change the baseline image, lots of stuff gets messed up, and no "reset all" will fix it.
Wonder how many others have been bitten by this, wanting to have their pair of HT's configured the same.
Any recovery suggestions most welcomed.
Thanks, and 73, Don
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 10:41:50 -0500 (EST)
From: "Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF" nigel@ngunn.net Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng UV5R Flashing To: Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Message-ID: 1214392741.187421.1511278910720@email.1and1.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Don't ever use an image from another radio. Download an original image (as it came from the manufacturer) from every radio and work with those. You can easily copy and paste between these images. Always upload the correct image to the correct radio.
On 21 November 2017 at 10:25 va7iq@geeksonradios.com wrote:
I have several UV5R's and am starting to wonder how the flashing algorithm works. This is due to odd behaviors that I "think" I am seeing.
When flashing, is the total memory replaced included in-factory configuration elements?
The reason I ask is that I bought a new unit which was serving for data aok, then after flashing an image (including channels) from another device, it seemed to degrade performance.
The purpose of my question is to clarify whether I need to flash units only with their native image updated with data since factory parameters may be impacted by using another image as a baseline.
Thanks, Don VA7IQ / AE7UP
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Most radios have a factory reset function on the menu system.
On 22 November 2017 at 01:36 va7iq@geeksonradios.com wrote:
Thanks for the update of flashing protocols for the UV5R.
Sadly I did not pick up on any WARNINGS pertaining to this requirement in the various dialogues when running the cloning sequences. And, to boot, I didn't save an original copy of the image either (dumb, it was recommended).
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF nigel@ngunn.net wrote:
Most radios have a factory reset function on the menu system.
These radios do not. The have a RESET menu that sets many settings to the firmware defaults which in many cased are different from what the factory default settings were. And unfortunately it does not touch many areas of memory where many problem occur.
The only way to set a UV-5R back to factory delivered state is to upload the "factory" CHIRP Radio Images (*.img) file that was saved from the radio immediately after it was powered on for the first time.
Jim KC9HI
Sadly I did not pick up on any WARNINGS pertaining to this requirement in the various dialogues when running the cloning sequences. And, to boot, I didn't save an original copy of the image either (dumb, it was recommended).
Unfortunately many don't.
Now I've have 4 UV5R's all literally cloned to be the same, and possibly not operating optimally as I have observed failure to break squealch and low power output on the latest 2 I've done. From what I'm guessing, only 1 of them has a proper flash image, and that is probably the first one I did.
No idea if this situation is recoverable, but it doesn't sound good.
Yes, it is recoverable. It just takes uploading the original image. Unfortunately it sounds like that is not avaialbe. The next best thing it to find someone that has one from another radio with the exact same firmware version.
Any recovery suggestions most welcomed.
Make a fresh download from each radio and save as a native CHIRP Radio Images (*.img) file. Then email the images to me. I will examine them to see if I can see anything out of the ordinary and/or see if any of the "factory" images in my collection look like a candidate for some or all your radios (even though you may have bought all at the same time does not guarantee they are all the same).
Thanks, and 73, Don
Jim KC9HI
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