[chirp_users] Baofeng UV82 Preprogrammed Channels
Hi, A friend of mine just got a new Baofeng UV82, he is about to take his Ham Tech test. I sent him a Chirp install file, but I don't know if he will be able to access it with his screenreader in windows 11. So I have worked with him over the phone on entering frequencies into frequency mode. So in channel mode, it came with some channels, but he is Blind, so there is no way for him to know what they are. Can anyone send me a list of the channels they put in one of these from the factory? Maybe someone saved their original file that you can copy the channels and associated frequencies for me please.
Thanks
Glenn
On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 21:39:06 -0600 "K0LNY_Glenn" glenn@ervin.email wrote:
Hi, A friend of mine just got a new Baofeng UV82, he is about to take his Ham Tech test. I sent him a Chirp install file, but I don't know if he will be able to access it with his screenreader in windows 11.
If you're feeling adventurous, I've been doing some hacking of `chirpc`. You can find my hacked up `chirpc` here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sjlongland/chirp/feature/chirpc-csv-import...
Assuming you have `chirp-next` somewhere you might be able to download the above file into the same directory along side `chirpwx.py`, then open up a command prompt in that directory and run (substitute COM1: with your radio's serial port):
python3 chirpc --radio Baofeng_UV-82 --serial COM1: --mmap radio.img --download-mmap python3 chirpc --mmap radio.img --export-csv radio.csv
Then you can open up `radio.csv` in a spreadsheet tool (I use `gnumeric` in my testing since it's lightweight and does the job) -- that should at least let you "see" what's in the radio, assuming the spreadsheet tool is itself accessible to screen readers.
Loading setting back in is still a work-in-progress. I actually have to re-factor that so I'm not re-inventing wheels on import, but the way it *should* work is this:
python3 chirpc --mmap radio.img --import-csv radio.csv python3 chirpc --radio Baofeng_UV-82 --serial COM1: --mmap radio.img --upload-mmap
I'll point out the above is 100% untested -- especially on Windows. I've been using the GUI to upload/download, but then using `chirpc` to actually do the updates due to bugs in my particular install.
I can understand the CLI is not for everybody either -- I'm only proposing this as it might work-around some of the compatibility issues and at least offer some minimal functionality.
A big downside with this approach is you miss out on integration with things like RepeaterBook, etc. Not a problem in my situation since none of those services seem to cover VK repeaters, but it'd be a big nuisance for US-based operators that use such services.
I did look into the situation of accessibility, and it seems it's a mess: wxWidgets (which Chirp-next uses) doesn't seem to have any working concept of accessibility, and while a module for Tkinter (Python's built-in GUI library) exists, that enables it on Linux/Unix not Windows. I'm not sure how well PyQt5 fares -- historically Qt has been problematic in the past.
The other options seem to be some modern GTK+ Python wrapper, or something "terminal"-based (`urwid` perhaps).
Hi Stuart, That might work in other situations, I will see what I can do with that. My friend can barely manage windows stuff, so this is way beyond his capabilities. So still hoping someone has a list of frequencies they put into these radios, I'm not sure if he can hear me from my QTH to his in any FRS or MURS channels they put into those radios, but it would be thrilling to him if we could make a cross town contact, and if I knew which frequencies were on what channels, I could have him tune to a particular channel and I can get on the same one. It may take him a while to see if he can import the CSV file I sent him. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Longland VK4MSL via chirp_users" chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng UV82 Preprogrammed Channels
On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 21:39:06 -0600 "K0LNY_Glenn" glenn@ervin.email wrote:
Hi, A friend of mine just got a new Baofeng UV82, he is about to take his Ham Tech test. I sent him a Chirp install file, but I don't know if he will be able to access it with his screenreader in windows 11.
If you're feeling adventurous, I've been doing some hacking of `chirpc`. You can find my hacked up `chirpc` here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sjlongland/chirp/feature/chirpc-csv-import...
Assuming you have `chirp-next` somewhere you might be able to download the above file into the same directory along side `chirpwx.py`, then open up a command prompt in that directory and run (substitute COM1: with your radio's serial port):
python3 chirpc --radio Baofeng_UV-82 --serial COM1: --mmap radio.img --download-mmap python3 chirpc --mmap radio.img --export-csv radio.csv
Then you can open up `radio.csv` in a spreadsheet tool (I use `gnumeric` in my testing since it's lightweight and does the job) -- that should at least let you "see" what's in the radio, assuming the spreadsheet tool is itself accessible to screen readers.
Loading setting back in is still a work-in-progress. I actually have to re-factor that so I'm not re-inventing wheels on import, but the way it *should* work is this:
python3 chirpc --mmap radio.img --import-csv radio.csv python3 chirpc --radio Baofeng_UV-82 --serial COM1: --mmap radio.img --upload-mmap
I'll point out the above is 100% untested -- especially on Windows. I've been using the GUI to upload/download, but then using `chirpc` to actually do the updates due to bugs in my particular install.
I can understand the CLI is not for everybody either -- I'm only proposing this as it might work-around some of the compatibility issues and at least offer some minimal functionality.
A big downside with this approach is you miss out on integration with things like RepeaterBook, etc. Not a problem in my situation since none of those services seem to cover VK repeaters, but it'd be a big nuisance for US-based operators that use such services.
I did look into the situation of accessibility, and it seems it's a mess: wxWidgets (which Chirp-next uses) doesn't seem to have any working concept of accessibility, and while a module for Tkinter (Python's built-in GUI library) exists, that enables it on Linux/Unix not Windows. I'm not sure how well PyQt5 fares -- historically Qt has been problematic in the past.
The other options seem to be some modern GTK+ Python wrapper, or something "terminal"-based (`urwid` perhaps).
The channels that are in a Baofeng from the factory are factory testing frequencies and MUST NEVER be transmitted on. Additionally, those frequencies are not always the same. (1) Where does your friend live? (2) Will he be testing online or in-person? If in-person, perhaps the VEs could help or know of someone locally who would help him. (3) Perhaps there is a ham club in his area. Usually, a club member will help him. (4) Is there someone in his household who could help him if you talked them through it on the phone? (5) If #4 is yes, they could install CHIRP for him and download an image file from his radio and send it to you for customization. Then you send it back for them to upload into his radio. (6) The least desirable option is for him to send his radio to you for programming.
Good luck and 73 - John, KZ4KY
On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 10:39 PM K0LNY_Glenn glenn@ervin.email wrote:
Hi, A friend of mine just got a new Baofeng UV82, he is about to take his Ham Tech test. I sent him a Chirp install file, but I don't know if he will be able to access it with his screenreader in windows 11. So I have worked with him over the phone on entering frequencies into frequency mode. So in channel mode, it came with some channels, but he is Blind, so there is no way for him to know what they are. Can anyone send me a list of the channels they put in one of these from the factory? Maybe someone saved their original file that you can copy the channels and associated frequencies for me please.
Thanks
Glenn
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