[chirp_users] UV-5R and volume.
Pertaining to the UV-5R series of phones, I have seen numerous times that the volume needs to be turned up.
Let's once and for all dispel or confirm this.
I for one have found, and it makes total sense to me, that the volume has absolutely nothing to do with data being transferred to a computer with the data cable.
Please confirm or deny.
Thanks,
Dennis M. Wage (W9BOQ)
245 Corum Hill Road Castalian Springs, TN 37031 (615) 310-4242 Cell (615) 562-5128 Home http://hammondb3organ.net http://overdubs.net
I have a UV-5R and UV-82 and can also confirm that the volume setting has absolutely no effect on data transfer.
Nobody has ever explained how it could possibly have any effect.
Tom ND5Y
Pertaining to the UV-5R series of phones, I have seen numerous times that the volume needs to be turned up.
Let's once and for all dispel or confirm this.
I for one have found, and it makes total sense to me, that the volume has absolutely nothing to do with data being transferred to a computer with the data cable.
On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 6:58 AM Dennis Wage dwage@dwage.com wrote:
Pertaining to the UV-5R series of phones, I have seen numerous times that the volume needs to be turned up.
Let's once and for all dispel or confirm this.
I for one have found, and it makes total sense to me, that the volume has absolutely nothing to do with data being transferred to a computer with the data cable.
Please confirm or deny.
Thanks,
Dennis M. Wage (W9BOQ)
245 Corum Hill Road Castalian Springs, TN 37031 (615) 310-4242 Cell (615) 562-5128 Home http://hammondb3organ.net http://overdubs.net
This too does not make sense to me.
The pinout for the 2-pin Kenwood style plug used on the majority of these Baofeng (and Baofeng like) radios has the analog speaker/mike audio wires separate from the digital RX data/TX data wires used for programming. The programming cable only contains the 3 wires needed for programming (RX data, TX data and ground). The programming cable does not contain the wires for speaker audio (SPK+) and mic audio (MIC+) because neither are reauired for programming (it is the non-existent SPK+ wire that has its signal level adjusted by the volume control knob).
I have been programming many brands of radios with many kinds of programming cables using many different computers having various operating systems for over 7 years. I have never ever had to intentionally rotate the the volume knob to a point any further than it takes to provide the "click" that supplies power to the radio (which coincides with the lowest volume level).
That being said, I have had email exchanges with those trying to solve their programming cable issue that eventually sorted out the issue by turning up the volume and swore they the replicate the issue by turning the volume down. To me this should not be the case. Perhaps there is a design flaw that shows up in some of these cheap radios (or radio/programming cable combination) that has the data TTL levels affected by volume control?
Jim KC9HI
True. The setting of the volume control has NOTHING to do with programming.
If you have to wait several minutes between plugging in the radio and downloading with Chirp then your Windows installation is broken. It's not Chirp causing it.
On 08 June 2019 at 06:54 Dennis Wage dwage@dwage.com wrote:
Pertaining to the UV-5R series of phones, I have seen numerous times that the volume needs to be turned up. Let's once and for all dispel or confirm this. I for one have found, and it makes total sense to me, that the volume has absolutely nothing to do with data being transferred to a computer with the data cable. Please confirm or deny. Thanks, Dennis M. Wage (W9BOQ) 245 Corum Hill Road Castalian Springs, TN 37031 (615) 310-4242 Cell (615) 562-5128 Home http://hammondb3organ.net/ http://overdubs.net _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Nigel Gunn, W8IFF at nigel@ngunn.net To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
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On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 12:56 PM Don Goodrich don.goodrich@cheerful.com wrote:
Certainly the computer volume control has no influence but since the data is being communicated to/from the radio over the external radio audio port, the radio volume control needs to be set midrange for the cable to "hear" the outbound data.
Don Goodrich don.goodrich@Cheerful.com AF7DG
The digital data is proviced on connections that have nothing to do with the connections for the analog speaker audio or the analog microphone audio. In addition to the audio wires (that aren't included in the programming cable since they are not necessary to have for programming) and the data wires, there is even a connection that provides DC voltage (5V or 3.3V depending on the radio) to power external devices.
http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_Technical.php#spkrmic
Jim KC9HI
All, Have been programming multiple (15+/-) UV-5's, for our group, for several years. Never have had to mess with the volume. Versions of hardware at the beginning was the worst. Cables and drivers, were a pain for a while to, but not the radio controls.
73's JD k2txv
-----Original Message----- From: Jim Unroe Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 1:22 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] UV-5R and volume.
On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 12:56 PM Don Goodrich don.goodrich@cheerful.com wrote:
Certainly the computer volume control has no influence but since the data is being communicated to/from the radio over the external radio audio port, the radio volume control needs to be set midrange for the cable to "hear" the outbound data.
Don Goodrich don.goodrich@Cheerful.com AF7DG
The digital data is proviced on connections that have nothing to do with the connections for the analog speaker audio or the analog microphone audio. In addition to the audio wires (that aren't included in the programming cable since they are not necessary to have for programming) and the data wires, there is even a connection that provides DC voltage (5V or 3.3V depending on the radio) to power external devices.
http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_Technical.php#spkrmic
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Data uses the same connector. It doesn't go through the radio's audio chain. Audio is disabled when in program mode.
On 08 June 2019 at 12:48 Don Goodrich don.goodrich@cheerful.com wrote:
Certainly the computer volume control has no influence but since the data is being communicated to/from the radio over the external radio audio port, the radio volume control needs to be set midrange for the cable to "hear" the outbound data. Don Goodrich don.goodrich@Cheerful.com AF7DG Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2019 at 7:12 AM From: "Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF" <nigel@ngunn.net> To: "Discussion of CHIRP" <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>, "Dennis Wage" <dwage@dwage.com> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] UV-5R and volume. True. The setting of the volume control has NOTHING to do with programming. If you have to wait several minutes between plugging in the radio and downloading with Chirp then your Windows installation is broken. It's not Chirp causing it. > > On 08 June 2019 at 06:54 Dennis Wage <dwage@dwage.com> wrote:Pertaining to the UV-5R series of phones, I have seen numerous times that the volume needs to be turned up. Let's once and for all dispel or confirm this. I for one have found, and it makes total sense to me, that the volume has absolutely nothing to do with data being transferred to a computer with the data cable. Please confirm or deny. Thanks, Dennis M. Wage (W9BOQ) 245 Corum Hill Road Castalian Springs, TN 37031 (615) 310-4242 Cell (615) 562-5128 Home http://hammondb3organ.net/ http://overdubs.net _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Nigel Gunn, W8IFF at nigel@ngunn.net To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com >Nigel A. Gunn, 1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA. tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Don Goodrich at don.goodrich@cheerful.com To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
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exactly
The data is serial data, which is not in the audio spectrum. There's no "modem" on either end of the cable. It's straight RS-232C data as might come out of the back of an older PC. Volume has nothing to do with it, as it's either "on" or "off."
On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 5:11 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF nigel@ngunn.net wrote:
Data uses the same connector. It doesn't go through the radio's audio chain. Audio is disabled when in program mode.
On 08 June 2019 at 12:48 Don Goodrich don.goodrich@cheerful.com wrote:
Certainly the computer volume control has no influence but since the data is being communicated to/from the radio over the external radio audio port, the radio volume control needs to be set midrange for the cable to "hear" the outbound data.
Don Goodrich don.goodrich@Cheerful.com AF7DG
*Sent:* Saturday, June 08, 2019 at 7:12 AM *From:* "Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF" nigel@ngunn.net *To:* "Discussion of CHIRP" chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com, "Dennis Wage" dwage@dwage.com *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] UV-5R and volume.
True. The setting of the volume control has NOTHING to do with programming.
If you have to wait several minutes between plugging in the radio and downloading with Chirp then your Windows installation is broken. It's not Chirp causing it.
On 08 June 2019 at 06:54 Dennis Wage dwage@dwage.com wrote:
Pertaining to the UV-5R series of phones, I have seen numerous times that the volume needs to be turned up.
Let's once and for all dispel or confirm this.
I for one have found, and it makes total sense to me, that the volume has absolutely nothing to do with data being transferred to a computer with the data cable.
Please confirm or deny.
Thanks,
Dennis M. Wage (W9BOQ)
245 Corum Hill Road Castalian Springs, TN 37031 (615) 310-4242 Cell (615) 562-5128 Home http://hammondb3organ.net http://overdubs.net _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Nigel Gunn, W8IFF at nigel@ngunn.net To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
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Dennis Wage -
Don Goodrich -
JD Morrow -
Jim Unroe -
John Kemker -
Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF -
Tom Consodine, ND5Y