[chirp_users] Linux install instructions, not quite 100%...
Hi.
I just installed the current Chirp on this LMDE 5 system, using the instructions as shown on :- https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/ChirpOnLinux
There is a "slight wrinkle" in para 2.2.
The command line invocation:-
*pipx install --system-site-packages ./chirp-20230509-py3-none-any.whl*
Fails as the file "chirp-20230509-py-none-any.whl" was not present anywhere. That is also an old version now as well.
OK, simple for me to figure out, but for many other windoze refugees probably less so, so perhaps either some additional instruction regarding actually getting the .whl file "First" (finding the link to that was not as easy as it should be I think either) or including a wget somewhere to pull the latest from the server, and make it all work "automagically" ?
Otherwise, 20230911 is working OK with the shack Kenwood TM-V71 on a 64 bit LMDE 5 system.
Re the use of pipx, and the comment that pipx users will need to uninstall Chirp, before installing a new version. Is there a reason why "pipx upgrade" cant be used? If so, what is the reason?
Lastly, where is the Chirp Icon file hidden these days? (So I can put it in my menu system.)
Oh, I also find that this version of Chirp, does not remember the custom port name for the radio, in this case /dev/ttyTMV71 as assigned by a udev rule for consistency. The resulting entry in the port dropdown, is also mostly obscured by being shoved over to far to the left in that field.
73.
Dave G8KBV.
I totally agree, I'm not an expert on Ubuntu by any means, yet if I follow the instructions line by line, it fails me almost every time. I think Linux installation could be better explained. Ideally, it would have a apt-get update candidate.
On Thu, 14 Sept 2023 at 14:54, Dave B via chirp_users < chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
Hi.
I just installed the current Chirp on this LMDE 5 system, using the instructions as shown on :- https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/ChirpOnLinux
There is a "slight wrinkle" in para 2.2.
The command line invocation:-
*pipx install --system-site-packages ./chirp-20230509-py3-none-any.whl*
Fails as the file "chirp-20230509-py-none-any.whl" was not present anywhere. That is also an old version now as well.
OK, simple for me to figure out, but for many other windoze refugees probably less so, so perhaps either some additional instruction regarding actually getting the .whl file "First" (finding the link to that was not as easy as it should be I think either) or including a wget somewhere to pull the latest from the server, and make it all work "automagically" ?
Otherwise, 20230911 is working OK with the shack Kenwood TM-V71 on a 64 bit LMDE 5 system.
Re the use of pipx, and the comment that pipx users will need to uninstall Chirp, before installing a new version. Is there a reason why "pipx upgrade" cant be used? If so, what is the reason?
Lastly, where is the Chirp Icon file hidden these days? (So I can put it in my menu system.)
Oh, I also find that this version of Chirp, does not remember the custom port name for the radio, in this case /dev/ttyTMV71 as assigned by a udev rule for consistency. The resulting entry in the port dropdown, is also mostly obscured by being shoved over to far to the left in that field.
Dave G8KBV.
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 01:31:35 +0100 Tony Ling tonyg7txu@gmail.com wrote:
I totally agree, I'm not an expert on Ubuntu by any means, yet if I follow the instructions line by line, it fails me almost every time. I think Linux installation could be better explained.
Out of curiosity, what step(s) in those instructions "fail [you] every time"? I've used CHIRP for many years under several Linux distros such as Debian, Devuan, Fedora, and Slackware--even FreeBSD with minor modifications--without issue. Maybe we can figure out a better way to do things together.
Ideally, it would have a apt-get update candidate.
Perhaps you could learn how to build a package under Ubuntu?
The CHIRP developers can always use any help they can get, I'm sure. <G>
73, Sean KS4TD
I'm using Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS And this is where I fall at the first hurdle
anthony@anthony-System-Product-Name:~/Downloads/CHIRP$ sudo apt install -y pipx Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package pipx
On Fri, 15 Sept 2023 at 05:36, Sean Dennis sean@ks4td.us wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 01:31:35 +0100 Tony Ling tonyg7txu@gmail.com wrote:
I totally agree, I'm not an expert on Ubuntu by any means, yet if I follow the instructions line by line, it fails me almost every time. I think Linux installation could be better explained.
Out of curiosity, what step(s) in those instructions "fail [you] every time"? I've used CHIRP for many years under several Linux distros such as Debian, Devuan, Fedora, and Slackware--even FreeBSD with minor modifications--without issue. Maybe we can figure out a better way to do things together.
Ideally, it would have a apt-get update candidate.
Perhaps you could learn how to build a package under Ubuntu?
The CHIRP developers can always use any help they can get, I'm sure. <G>
73, Sean KS4TD
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The instruction should say to pip install pipx
On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 10:55 AM Tony Ling tonyg7txu@gmail.com wrote:
I'm using Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS And this is where I fall at the first hurdle
anthony@anthony-System-Product-Name:~/Downloads/CHIRP$ sudo apt install -y pipx Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package pipx
On Fri, 15 Sept 2023 at 05:36, Sean Dennis sean@ks4td.us wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 01:31:35 +0100 Tony Ling tonyg7txu@gmail.com wrote:
I totally agree, I'm not an expert on Ubuntu by any means, yet if I follow the instructions line by line, it fails me almost every time. I think Linux installation could be better explained.
Out of curiosity, what step(s) in those instructions "fail [you] every time"? I've used CHIRP for many years under several Linux distros such as Debian, Devuan, Fedora, and Slackware--even FreeBSD with minor modifications--without issue. Maybe we can figure out a better way to do things together.
Ideally, it would have a apt-get update candidate.
Perhaps you could learn how to build a package under Ubuntu?
The CHIRP developers can always use any help they can get, I'm sure. <G>
73, Sean KS4TD
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instructions modified as noted.
Jeff KI7GJG
On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 12:09 PM David Boucha boucha@gmail.com wrote:
The instruction should say to pip install pipx
On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 10:55 AM Tony Ling tonyg7txu@gmail.com wrote:
I'm using Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS And this is where I fall at the first hurdle
anthony@anthony-System-Product-Name:~/Downloads/CHIRP$ sudo apt install -y pipx Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package pipx
On Fri, 15 Sept 2023 at 05:36, Sean Dennis sean@ks4td.us wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 01:31:35 +0100 Tony Ling tonyg7txu@gmail.com wrote:
I totally agree, I'm not an expert on Ubuntu by any means, yet if I follow the instructions line by line, it fails me almost every time. I think Linux installation could be better explained.
Out of curiosity, what step(s) in those instructions "fail [you] every time"? I've used CHIRP for many years under several Linux distros such as Debian, Devuan, Fedora, and Slackware--even FreeBSD with minor modifications--without issue. Maybe we can figure out a better way to do things together.
Ideally, it would have a apt-get update candidate.
Perhaps you could learn how to build a package under Ubuntu?
The CHIRP developers can always use any help they can get, I'm sure. <G>
73, Sean KS4TD
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 17:55:17 +0100 Tony Ling tonyg7txu@gmail.com wrote:
E: Unable to locate package pipx
That means you need to install pipx:
pip install pipx
That's not a failure of the instructions. :)
-- Sean
I do upgrades of chirp with a command line that looks like
*pip install --upgrade ./chirp-20230509-py3-none-any.whl*
and it works for me. Admittedly I do not use Ubuntu, and use Fedora instead but the use of python and pip is almost identical on both systems. Chirp is installed in the user python environment and not in the systemwide area.
Anyone who cannot understand that the instructions expect the user to download the newer version then use the command with the appropriate file name for the version just downloaded probably should go back and read the instructions again.. The same applies to those who do not understand that it must be downloaded first before attempting the install or upgrade.
Remember always that posted instruction commands are examples and the user must modify parts to fit their own environment -- especially when it gives paths and file names..
Jeff KI7GJG
On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 7:33 PM Tony Ling tonyg7txu@gmail.com wrote:
I totally agree, I'm not an expert on Ubuntu by any means, yet if I follow the instructions line by line, it fails me almost every time. I think Linux installation could be better explained. Ideally, it would have a apt-get update candidate.
On Thu, 14 Sept 2023 at 14:54, Dave B via chirp_users < chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
Hi.
I just installed the current Chirp on this LMDE 5 system, using the instructions as shown on :- https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/ChirpOnLinux
There is a "slight wrinkle" in para 2.2.
The command line invocation:-
*pipx install --system-site-packages ./chirp-20230509-py3-none-any.whl*
Fails as the file "chirp-20230509-py-none-any.whl" was not present anywhere. That is also an old version now as well.
OK, simple for me to figure out, but for many other windoze refugees probably less so, so perhaps either some additional instruction regarding actually getting the .whl file "First" (finding the link to that was not as easy as it should be I think either) or including a wget somewhere to pull the latest from the server, and make it all work "automagically" ?
Otherwise, 20230911 is working OK with the shack Kenwood TM-V71 on a 64 bit LMDE 5 system.
Re the use of pipx, and the comment that pipx users will need to uninstall Chirp, before installing a new version. Is there a reason why "pipx upgrade" cant be used? If so, what is the reason?
Lastly, where is the Chirp Icon file hidden these days? (So I can put it in my menu system.)
Oh, I also find that this version of Chirp, does not remember the custom port name for the radio, in this case /dev/ttyTMV71 as assigned by a udev rule for consistency. The resulting entry in the port dropdown, is also mostly obscured by being shoved over to far to the left in that field.
Dave G8KBV.
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 15:26:03 -0500 Jeffrey Vian sandhillsinvestment@gmail.com wrote:
Remember always that posted instruction commands are examples and the user must modify parts to fit their own environment -- especially when it gives paths and file names..
Linux is indeed a learning experience and it's usually the hard way...
I loved running Linux as you can do so much under the hood and no dealing with weird device driver like Windows and the PL-2303 driver issue.
73, Sean KS4TD
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