[chirp_users] Iphone
Is there any chance of programming my boefeng uv5r radio using my Iphone 4? I am thinking of the times that we need the radios to operate during a disaster of some kind. We need to have the ability to program these radios quickly and all the same so our teams can work together. 73 KD0TUN Dave
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Davecenturytel DWB2808@centurytel.net wrote:
Is there any chance of programming my boefeng uv5r radio using my Iphone 4? I am thinking of the times that we need the radios to operate during a disaster of some kind. We need to have the ability to program these radios quickly and all the same so our teams can work together. 73 KD0TUN Dave
No, this isn't possible at the moment. Here are some reasons why:
1. The UV5R requires a serial port for programming. Your iPhone doesn't have a serial port. Some people get around this with computers with USB-serial cables. Your iPhone doesn't have a USB port either, nor the USB-serial drivers. 2. Your iPhone can't run Chirp. Chirp will run on any system that will run Python and PyGTK. Your iPhone cannot run Python and PyGTK.
Android is a little more promising. My Android phone has a USB OTG port which I have used successfully with a USB-serial adapter. However, this was with non-open code, so it is not a solution for Chirp. There are builds of Python for Android, but will likely never be PyGTK for Android. PyGTK is not a good match for touchscreens, so porting it to Android would be silly. At least half of Chirp's code would need to be rewritten to support Android.
Tom KD7LXL
The newer Ubuntu phones and tablets due soon are a little more promising, but still unlikely.
Dennis Smith M1DLG
On 7 August 2013 19:23, Tom Hayward esarfl@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Davecenturytel DWB2808@centurytel.net wrote:
Is there any chance of programming my boefeng uv5r radio using my Iphone
4?
I am thinking of the times that we need the radios to operate during a disaster of some kind. We need to have the ability to program these
radios
quickly and all the same so our teams can work together. 73 KD0TUN Dave
No, this isn't possible at the moment. Here are some reasons why:
- The UV5R requires a serial port for programming. Your iPhone
doesn't have a serial port. Some people get around this with computers with USB-serial cables. Your iPhone doesn't have a USB port either, nor the USB-serial drivers. 2. Your iPhone can't run Chirp. Chirp will run on any system that will run Python and PyGTK. Your iPhone cannot run Python and PyGTK.
Android is a little more promising. My Android phone has a USB OTG port which I have used successfully with a USB-serial adapter. However, this was with non-open code, so it is not a solution for Chirp. There are builds of Python for Android, but will likely never be PyGTK for Android. PyGTK is not a good match for touchscreens, so porting it to Android would be silly. At least half of Chirp's code would need to be rewritten to support Android.
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I could be all wet, but….
….a minor clarification – there is a serial port available on the iPhone – it’s accessed via the headset connector. An example is the “Square-D” card swipe mechanism. Getting to that interface isn’t directly simple, as the developer needs to be part of Apple’s MiFi program (the name may have changed) and commit to developing hardware for it – something unlikely in the chirp community, plus the volumes aren’t necessarily going to be very high.
Of course, making CHIRP run on iOS would be a port that would have numerous challenges to make work. J That alone is likely the biggest reason that it won’t happen soon – although, I’m given to understand there’s a veritable ARMY of young, bored iOS hacks waiting to do anything they can on the iDevice-of-your-choice. J
From: Dennis Smith [mailto:m1dlguk@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:39 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Iphone
The newer Ubuntu phones and tablets due soon are a little more promising, but still unlikely.
Dennis Smith
M1DLG
On 7 August 2013 19:23, Tom Hayward esarfl@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Davecenturytel DWB2808@centurytel.net wrote:
Is there any chance of programming my boefeng uv5r radio using my Iphone 4? I am thinking of the times that we need the radios to operate during a disaster of some kind. We need to have the ability to program these radios quickly and all the same so our teams can work together. 73 KD0TUN Dave
No, this isn't possible at the moment. Here are some reasons why:
1. The UV5R requires a serial port for programming. Your iPhone doesn't have a serial port. Some people get around this with computers with USB-serial cables. Your iPhone doesn't have a USB port either, nor the USB-serial drivers. 2. Your iPhone can't run Chirp. Chirp will run on any system that will run Python and PyGTK. Your iPhone cannot run Python and PyGTK.
Android is a little more promising. My Android phone has a USB OTG port which I have used successfully with a USB-serial adapter. However, this was with non-open code, so it is not a solution for Chirp. There are builds of Python for Android, but will likely never be PyGTK for Android. PyGTK is not a good match for touchscreens, so porting it to Android would be silly. At least half of Chirp's code would need to be rewritten to support Android.
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On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Josef Zeevi josef@zeevi.org wrote:
….a minor clarification – there is a serial port available on the iPhone – it’s accessed via the headset connector. An example is the “Square-D” card swipe mechanism. Getting to that interface isn’t directly simple, as the developer needs to be part of Apple’s MiFi program (the name may have changed) and commit to developing hardware for it – something unlikely in the chirp community, plus the volumes aren’t necessarily going to be very high.
I was under the impression those Square readers used an audio modem, presumably Manchester encoded. I'm actually developing a similar audio modem product at work right now.
It is my understanding that the MFi program is only required for accessories using the dock connector, not the audio jack.
If you could tell me more about serial on the audio connector I would really appreciate it.
Tom KD7LXL
If you was asking about a Yaesu base station such as the FT817/897 etc, you can program using an Android mobile and a Bluetooth adaptor. It's as close as you get to programming a radio with a handheld phone.
Dennis Smith M1DLG
On 7 August 2013 19:23, Tom Hayward esarfl@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Davecenturytel DWB2808@centurytel.net wrote:
Is there any chance of programming my boefeng uv5r radio using my Iphone
4?
I am thinking of the times that we need the radios to operate during a disaster of some kind. We need to have the ability to program these
radios
quickly and all the same so our teams can work together. 73 KD0TUN Dave
No, this isn't possible at the moment. Here are some reasons why:
- The UV5R requires a serial port for programming. Your iPhone
doesn't have a serial port. Some people get around this with computers with USB-serial cables. Your iPhone doesn't have a USB port either, nor the USB-serial drivers. 2. Your iPhone can't run Chirp. Chirp will run on any system that will run Python and PyGTK. Your iPhone cannot run Python and PyGTK.
Android is a little more promising. My Android phone has a USB OTG port which I have used successfully with a USB-serial adapter. However, this was with non-open code, so it is not a solution for Chirp. There are builds of Python for Android, but will likely never be PyGTK for Android. PyGTK is not a good match for touchscreens, so porting it to Android would be silly. At least half of Chirp's code would need to be rewritten to support Android.
Tom KD7LXL _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
A NetBook or other small "real" laptop with CHIRP is probably the best bet - some of those are pretty small/cheap these days.
Clay N7QNM
On Aug 7, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Davecenturytel DWB2808@centurytel.net wrote:
Is there any chance of programming my boefeng uv5r radio using my Iphone 4? I am thinking of the times that we need the radios to operate during a disaster of some kind. We need to have the ability to program these radios quickly and all the same so our teams can work together. 73 KD0TUN Dave _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
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