[chirp_users] Setting up banks/groups on Yaesu VX-3
Hello all!
I’ve just successfully uploaded a set of channels and other settings to my Yaesu VX-3. Those work perfectly. I then used Chirp to name three banks and select which channels I wanted to populate those banks. When I uploaded again, the radio doesn’t seem to recognize them – when I use the FW and/or BAND key to access them, I get a “NO BNK” message.
I downloaded my image back from the radio, just to see if it had properly uploaded – all looked correct.
Any hints on how to make the radio recognize the banks I’ve set up. Thanks!
Mike Lubrecht
KC7NOE
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Mike Lubrecht mlubrecht@wildblue.net wrote:
I’ve just successfully uploaded a set of channels and other settings to my Yaesu VX-3. Those work perfectly. I then used Chirp to name three banks and select which channels I wanted to populate those banks. When I uploaded again, the radio doesn’t seem to recognize them – when I use the FW and/or BAND key to access them, I get a “NO BNK” message.
Sounds like another example of this: http://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/409
Here's what you can do: 1. Save the .img as you have it now. 2. Use the front panel on the radio to add a channel to a bank. This should set all the enabled bits associated with the bank. 3. Download from the radio. Save the new .img with another filename. 4. Create a new bug issue and attach both img files (search first, there might already be a bug report for this behavior on the VX3). You can mark your new issue as related to #409 if you want. A developer should be able to look at your two .img files and, based on your description of which channel you added to which bank, determine what bits need to be set.
Tom KD7LXL
Thanks!
Eventually I got it to work, after a bit more research and fiddling. As you note, you do need to set up a bank with a channel in the radio from the front panel first. After that I could upload over the top of it and make it work.
It also wasn't clear about how to actually access the banks via the radio controls, but eventually that sorted itself out as well.
Unfortunately, I didn't download an image from the radio and set it, as you suggested. I may have saved an earlier version though (pre-bank) so it could be compared pre- and post- bank setting. Perhaps that might show something useful. I'll dig around and see what I have.
Thanks much for the assistance!
Mike
-----Original Message----- From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Tom Hayward Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:51 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Setting up banks/groups on Yaesu VX-3
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Mike Lubrecht mlubrecht@wildblue.net wrote:
I’ve just successfully uploaded a set of channels and other settings to my Yaesu VX-3. Those work perfectly. I then used Chirp to name three banks and select which channels I wanted to populate those banks. When I uploaded again, the radio doesn’t seem to recognize them – when I use the FW and/or BAND key to access them, I get a “NO BNK” message.
Sounds like another example of this: http://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/409
Here's what you can do: 1. Save the .img as you have it now. 2. Use the front panel on the radio to add a channel to a bank. This should set all the enabled bits associated with the bank. 3. Download from the radio. Save the new .img with another filename. 4. Create a new bug issue and attach both img files (search first, there might already be a bug report for this behavior on the VX3). You can mark your new issue as related to #409 if you want. A developer should be able to look at your two .img files and, based on your description of which channel you added to which bank, determine what bits need to be set.
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On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Mike Lubrecht mlubrecht@wildblue.net wrote:
Unfortunately, I didn't download an image from the radio and set it, as you suggested. I may have saved an earlier version though (pre-bank) so it could be compared pre- and post- bank setting. Perhaps that might show something useful. I'll dig around and see what I have.
The is why the bug has persisted so long. The dev who worked on it also did not have a pristine copy of the radio memory from before the bank feature was used, so it was not obvious that there was an extra setting that needed enabling. (By the way, a factory reset will not restore this. For some reason Yaesu does not actually zero everything out on a reset.) Once you've activated banks for the first time on the radio, adding and removing channels via Chirp works just fine--this is what the original developer tested when adding the VX3 to Chirp.
Tom KD7LXL
This is a "cross post" from the PX-888K Yahoo Group. Any comments or knowledge of this planned radio life span?
The PX-888K radios have the family of "suicide chip" that causes failure after it fails. The chip is the 24C32 EEPROM. It is alleged that ALL of these chips regardless of manufacturer will fail as they have a limit to the number of read-write cycles.
This chip is verified inside the Puxing PX-888K Radio. If anyone has any issues please let the group know.
As a refresher: Most Wouxun radios will write out their memory to the 24C64 upon power off and do a read from the same chip upon power on. As a result the chip fails; due to this action after a number of power cycles.
The 24C32 is a smaller capacity of the same chip family. There have been NO cases of this failure as the design of the radio may possibly not be as read-write intensive as the Wouxun radios.
The Savage Possum
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 9:45 AM, SavagePossum savagepossum@gmail.com wrote:
This is a "cross post" from the PX-888K Yahoo Group. Any comments or knowledge of this planned radio life span?
The PX-888K radios have the family of "suicide chip" that causes failure after it fails. The chip is the 24C32 EEPROM. It is alleged that ALL of these chips regardless of manufacturer will fail as they have a limit to the number of read-write cycles.
This chip is verified inside the Puxing PX-888K Radio. If anyone has any issues please let the group know.
As a refresher: Most Wouxun radios will write out their memory to the 24C64 upon power off and do a read from the same chip upon power on. As a result the chip fails; due to this action after a number of power cycles.
The 24C32 is a smaller capacity of the same chip family. There have been NO cases of this failure as the design of the radio may possibly not be as read-write intensive as the Wouxun radios.
The Savage Possum
What does this have to do with the VX-3? I notice you tagged your post as "in-reply-to" the VX-3 thread, and also used that subject:
References: 003701d082a8$54eeb0f0$fecc12d0$@wildblue.net CAFXO5Z1Us=2ZZz8dT8fL6fg6Q-ZgePxR3VF6AVc1gBbyG8bn1g@mail.gmail.com 008a01d082cc$fac13650$f043a2f0$@wildblue.net CAFXO5Z102skwRBjw0UcuBXbNjkPnqaz+cWma86-jRv-YtU+P7g@mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: CAFXO5Z102skwRBjw0UcuBXbNjkPnqaz+cWma86-jRv-YtU+P7g@mail.gmail.com Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 11:45:38 -0500 Message-ID: 003201d08365$16a8ef50$43facdf0$@gmail.com Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Setting up banks/groups on Yaesu VX-3
I bet thousands of chirp_users subscribers who don't own a VX-3 will never open this message.
Also, please keep messages related to Chirp. It sounds like this issue is more influenced by power on/off cycles than programming cycles, and is limited to a few specific radios. Please keep discussion of non-programming issues with these radios on their own mailing lists.
Tom KD7LXL
Actually, the behavior does seem to be repeatable and the error condition relapses. Every time I upload a revised image to the radio, it resets that bit (whatever it is) and I get the "No Bnk" error. Once I create a bank entry manually on the radio (just a dummy entry in a bank I don't use works best), I'm able to access the uploaded banks and groups.
I notice that accessing the banks (once enabled) is a little different on my radio than is shown in the user guide as well. I have to press F/W, then Band, choose the bank, then press Band again. It was a bit confusing for a while, but my ol' brain finally got the sequence down.
Since this issue does repeat with every refresh/revision that I do, next time I make a change I'll upload the current (functional) state, then download to the radio, confirm that the banks aren't working properly, and upload that image - then send both of them to the website.
Mike Lubrecht KC7NOE
-----Original Message----- From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Tom Hayward Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 3:50 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Setting up banks/groups on Yaesu VX-3
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Mike Lubrecht mlubrecht@wildblue.net wrote:
Unfortunately, I didn't download an image from the radio and set it, as
you suggested. I may have saved an earlier version though (pre-bank) so it could be compared pre- and post- bank setting. Perhaps that might show something useful. I'll dig around and see what I have.
The is why the bug has persisted so long. The dev who worked on it also did not have a pristine copy of the radio memory from before the bank feature was used, so it was not obvious that there was an extra setting that needed enabling. (By the way, a factory reset will not restore this. For some reason Yaesu does not actually zero everything out on a reset.) Once you've activated banks for the first time on the radio, adding and removing channels via Chirp works just fine--this is what the original developer tested when adding the VX3 to Chirp.
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