[chirp_users] totally confused
Brand new to linux, but just managed to get Linux to run with Ubuntu on a laptop and now trying to get Chirp. Right now the laptop has a problem with the networks. It can connect to a wifi, but nothing after that. Will likely just try to download on another computer and transfer Chirp over via a usb drive. When I read the instructions though, Ubuntu refers to something called a PPA which I do not see any information on what it is, what it needs, and not much about how its installed. It gives a couple of lines of code, but have no idea where it should be typed.
To the real pros, this probably is so basic as to be assumed knowledge, but in my first 8 hours of linux its a bit overwhelming.
I saw a live CD, but that looks like you must boot from the CD every time you need to use Chirp. Is that a practical and viable way to do it, even if linux is already installed? Any help is appreciated.
Hi Mark,
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Mark Blackwell markshamradio@pobox.com wrote:
Brand new to linux, but just managed to get Linux to run with Ubuntu on a laptop and now trying to get Chirp. Right now the laptop has a problem with the networks. It can connect to a wifi, but nothing after that. Will likely just try to download on another computer and transfer Chirp over via a usb drive. When I read the instructions though, Ubuntu refers to something called a PPA which I do not see any information on what it is, what it needs, and not much about how its installed. It gives a couple of lines of code, but have no idea where it should be typed.
The PPA is not going to help you if you don't have Internet access.
Instead you would have to follow the "Manual installation from source" as shown on the "Running CHIRP Under Linux" page. That won't be easy either if you don't already have the required python modules already installed.
To the real pros, this probably is so basic as to be assumed knowledge, but in my first 8 hours of linux its a bit overwhelming.
I saw a live CD, but that looks like you must boot from the CD every time you need to use Chirp. Is that a practical and viable way to do it, even if linux is already installed? Any help is appreciated.
The live CD won't help you because it is several years old. The first thing you have to do it perform an update and that requires Internet access.
-- Mark Blackwell markshamradio@pobox.com
You probably need to concentrate on getting you Internet access issue(s) resolved.
Jim KC9HI
Hi Mark, If you can connect to a WIFI, that is your network, assuming the WIFI is connected to the Internet. The PPA is the repository you need to add to Linux. A repository is a site to get files to your system, and that is one of the reasons that Linux is so secure, you have to add the repository before Linux will get files from there. So in the terminal, do: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:dansmith/chirp-daily This will give you the permissions you need. Then do: sudo apt-get update Then, I think the way to get chirp is to: sudo apt-get install chirp
HTH. Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Blackwell" markshamradio@pobox.com To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 6:46 PM Subject: [chirp_users] totally confused
Brand new to linux, but just managed to get Linux to run with Ubuntu on a laptop and now trying to get Chirp. Right now the laptop has a problem with the networks. It can connect to a wifi, but nothing after that. Will likely just try to download on another computer and transfer Chirp over via a usb drive. When I read the instructions though, Ubuntu refers to something called a PPA which I do not see any information on what it is, what it needs, and not much about how its installed. It gives a couple of lines of code, but have no idea where it should be typed.
To the real pros, this probably is so basic as to be assumed knowledge, but in my first 8 hours of linux its a bit overwhelming.
I saw a live CD, but that looks like you must boot from the CD every time you need to use Chirp. Is that a practical and viable way to do it, even if linux is already installed? Any help is appreciated.
Short version: The PPA is designed to be used from a computer that has internet access. Entering the commands given on http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Download will ensure your system always has the latest version of Chirp installed.
Long version: Linux distributions use package manager software to handle the installation, updates, and removal of software. A package manager gets information about software and versions are available from repositories. Ubuntu comes with a number of official repositories for officially-maintained software. For software not maintained by Canonical, like Chirp, PPAs are offered. PPAs are third-party repositories. When you install the Chirp PPA, it just tells your system what the latest version of Chirp is and where to download it. Then when you run a normal software update in your package manager, you'll get the latest version of Chirp. Of course you need the internet for this to work*.
* Technically you could use methods other than the internet to transfer the repository cache, but let's not go there.
Focus on getting your internet access working. That will make everything else much easier. If you can't get wifi working, try an ethernet cable. There's a lot less to go wrong that way.
Once you get your internet working the commands at http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Download will work for you.
Tom KD7LXL
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Mark Blackwell markshamradio@pobox.com wrote:
Brand new to linux, but just managed to get Linux to run with Ubuntu on a laptop and now trying to get Chirp. Right now the laptop has a problem with the networks. It can connect to a wifi, but nothing after that. Will likely just try to download on another computer and transfer Chirp over via a usb drive. When I read the instructions though, Ubuntu refers to something called a PPA which I do not see any information on what it is, what it needs, and not much about how its installed. It gives a couple of lines of code, but have no idea where it should be typed.
To the real pros, this probably is so basic as to be assumed knowledge, but in my first 8 hours of linux its a bit overwhelming.
I saw a live CD, but that looks like you must boot from the CD every time you need to use Chirp. Is that a practical and viable way to do it, even if linux is already installed? Any help is appreciated.
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To follow up, for connecting to WIFI, go to Networks in the menus, and there is an option to connect to network, and when you find the option to select which type, select WIFI. You will need to know the SSID, which is the name of the network that you see when you look for wireless networks. In the security page, select WPA personal, as that is the most common type. You will need the password of course. HTH. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Blackwell" markshamradio@pobox.com To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 6:46 PM Subject: [chirp_users] totally confused
Brand new to linux, but just managed to get Linux to run with Ubuntu on a laptop and now trying to get Chirp. Right now the laptop has a problem with the networks. It can connect to a wifi, but nothing after that. Will likely just try to download on another computer and transfer Chirp over via a usb drive. When I read the instructions though, Ubuntu refers to something called a PPA which I do not see any information on what it is, what it needs, and not much about how its installed. It gives a couple of lines of code, but have no idea where it should be typed.
To the real pros, this probably is so basic as to be assumed knowledge, but in my first 8 hours of linux its a bit overwhelming.
I saw a live CD, but that looks like you must boot from the CD every time you need to use Chirp. Is that a practical and viable way to do it, even if linux is already installed? Any help is appreciated.
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