[chirp_users] CHIRP and HP Chromebook
Hello, I purchased a Baofeng BF-F8HP, cable, and HP Chromebook. I have no experience with either program. The software CHIRP lists doesnt download on the laptop. The laptop has Linux capability, but I don't have any idea how to execute the program. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks. Jim
Found this using Google: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS Linux Apps Since 2013 it has been possible to run Linux applications in Chrome OS through the use of Croutonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crouton_(computing), a third-party set of scripts that allows access to a Linux distribution such as Ubuntu.[84]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-84 However, in 2018 Google announced that desktop Linux apps were officially coming to Chrome OS.[85]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-85 The main benefit claimed by Google of their official Linux application support is that it can run without enabling developer mode, keeping many of the security features of Chrome OS. It was noticed in the Chromium OS source code in early 2018.[86]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-86[87]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-87 Early parts of Crostini were made available for the Google Pixelbookhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Pixelbook via the dev channel in February 2018 as part of Chrome OS version 66,[88]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-88[89]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-89 and it was enabled by default via the beta channel for testing on a variety of chromebooks in August 2018 with version 69.[90]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-90 Architecture Google's project for supporting Linux applications in Chrome OS is called Crostini, named for the Italian bread-based starterhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crostino, and as a pun on Crouton. Crostini runs a virtual machine through a virtual machine monitor called crosvm, which uses Linux's built-in KVMhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel-based_Virtual_Machine virtualization tool. Although crosvm supports multiple virtual machines, the one used for running Linux apps, Termina, contains a basic Chrome OS kernel and userland utilities, in which it runs containers based on Linux containershttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_containers (specifically LXD).[91]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-91 Architecture Chrome OS is built on top of the Linuxhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux kernel. Originally based on Ubuntuhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu, its base was changed to Gentoo Linuxhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo_Linux in February 2010.[92]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-92 In preliminary design documents for the Chromium OS open source project, Google described a three-tier architecture: firmware, browser and window manager, and system-level software and userlandhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_space services.[93]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-Security_overview-93
* The firmware contributes to fast boot time by not probing for hardware, such as floppy disk drives, that are no longer common on computers, especially netbooks. The firmware also contributes to security by verifying each step in the boot process and incorporating system recovery.[93]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-Security_overview-93 * System-level software includes the Linux kernelhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel that has been patched to improve boot performance. Userland software has been trimmed to essentials, with management by Upstarthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstart_(software), which can launch services in parallel, re-spawn crashed jobs, and defer services in the interest of faster booting.[93]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-Security_overview-93 * The window manager handles user interaction with multiple client windows much like other X window managershttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_window_manager.[93]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-Security_overview-93
One of the Linux gurus on here may be able to tell you how to use the Crostini app to install and run chirp.
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From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com On Behalf Of O O Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 11:07 AM To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: [chirp_users] CHIRP and HP Chromebook
This email originated from an external sender. Use caution when following links or opening attachments as they could be malicious Hello, I purchased a Baofeng BF-F8HP, cable, and HP Chromebook. I have no experience with either program. The software CHIRP lists doesnt download on the laptop. The laptop has Linux capability, but I don't have any idea how to execute the program. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks. Jim
I run it happily under CROUTON.
Full details here: https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton
On 22 May 2019 at 12:26 Gary Craig gcraig@WebcoIndustries.com wrote:
Found this using Google: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS Linux Apps Since 2013 it has been possible to run Linux applications in Chrome OS through the use of Crouton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crouton_(computing) , a third-party set of scripts that allows access to a Linux distribution such as Ubuntu.[84] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-84 However, in 2018 Google announced that desktop Linux apps were officially coming to Chrome OS.[85] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-85 The main benefit claimed by Google of their official Linux application support is that it can run without enabling developer mode, keeping many of the security features of Chrome OS. It was noticed in the Chromium OS source code in early 2018.[86] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-86 [87] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-87 Early parts of Crostini were made available for the Google Pixelbook https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Pixelbook via the dev channel in February 2018 as part of Chrome OS version 66,[88] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-88 [89] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-89 and it was enabled by default via the beta channel for testing on a variety of chromebooks in August 2018 with version 69.[90] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-90 Architecture Google's project for supporting Linux applications in Chrome OS is called Crostini, named for the Italian bread-based starter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crostino , and as a pun on Crouton. Crostini runs a virtual machine through a virtual machine monitor called crosvm, which uses Linux's built-in KVM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel-based_Virtual_Machine virtualization tool. Although crosvm supports multiple virtual machines, the one used for running Linux apps, Termina, contains a basic Chrome OS kernel and userland utilities, in which it runs containers based on Linux containers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_containers (specifically LXD).[91] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-91 Architecture Chrome OS is built on top of the Linux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux kernel. Originally based on Ubuntu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu , its base was changed to Gentoo Linux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo_Linux in February 2010.[92] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-92 In preliminary design documents for the Chromium OS open source project, Google described a three-tier architecture: firmware, browser and window manager, and system-level software and userland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_space services.[93] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-Security_overview-93 * The firmware contributes to fast boot time by not probing for hardware, such as floppy disk drives, that are no longer common on computers, especially netbooks. The firmware also contributes to security by verifying each step in the boot process and incorporating system recovery.[93] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-Security_overview-93 * System-level software includes the Linux kernel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel that has been patched to improve boot performance. Userland software has been trimmed to essentials, with management by Upstart https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstart_(software) , which can launch services in parallel, re-spawn crashed jobs, and defer services in the interest of faster booting.[93] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-Security_overview-93 * The window manager handles user interaction with multiple client windows much like other X window managers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_window_manager .[93] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS#cite_note-Security_overview-93 One of the Linux gurus on here may be able to tell you how to use the Crostini app to install and run chirp. Be blessed! May 2019 be our year of change & growth! Gary Craig KI5CCD Maintenance Webco Industries Texas Distribution 750 Martin Luther King Jr Dr Orange, TX 77630-3094 409-886-0807 ext. 107 Fax 918-246-7045 gcraig@webcotube.com mailto:gcraig@webcotube.com From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com <chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com> On Behalf Of O O Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 11:07 AM To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: [chirp_users] CHIRP and HP Chromebook This email originated from an external sender. Use caution when following links or opening attachments as they could be malicious Hello, I purchased a Baofeng BF-F8HP, cable, and HP Chromebook. I have no experience with either program. The software CHIRP lists doesnt download on the laptop. The laptop has Linux capability, but I don't have any idea how to execute the program. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks. Jim
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The short answer is "sorry, it won't work." BUT that is oversimplified. CHIRP is written in Python and is supported on three OSs: Linux, Windows, and MacOS. Not on chromebook. You have three options: 1) Learn how to run Python on Chromebook natively, 2) Learn how to run Linux on Chromebook, or 3) use a really inexpensive (less than $40) Linux computer in addition to your Chromebook. Of the three the last one by far easiest unless your skill level is a lot higher that it appears from your question, but I may be miss-judging. So: a) Purchase a Raspberry PI (or other fine little Linux computer). b) Purchase or re-purpose a microSD card of at leas 4GB. c) get on the web and learn.
The other two approaches involve placing your Chromebook in developer mode and doing a fair amount of learning and magic, For Linux the magic is called "Crouton". That's the "Linux capability" you mentioned. If you follow the Crouton instructions, you will get to a Linux command line prompt. From there, you can follow the CHIRP generic Linux instructions to download and run CHIRP. If you to your Linux prompt and can then get no further, please comeback here for help.
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Hello, I purchased a Baofeng BF-F8HP, cable, and HP Chromebook. I have no experience with either program. The software CHIRP lists doesnt download on the laptop. The laptop has Linux capability, but I don't have any idea how to execute the program. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks. Jim _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Dan Clemmensen at danclemmensen@gmail.com To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
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