GMRS Programming using CHIRP
i am very new to this, I am trying to program using CHIRP to the Baofeng UV-5R, as I am licensed to use GMRS, CHIRP, when I programmed in the frequency, put in DTSC in the tone mode column, which prevented me from hearing anyone, I changed it to tone, now I can hear other users, the tone is set at 88.5, channels that have a repeater are set to + 5.000000, FM at high power. As I am not sure if any of the settings are correct, as I am not able to contact anyone, is there anyone who can help me with the settings I need in all the columns? I appreciate any assistance you can give me in this!
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 9:38 PM Dave via Users users@lists.chirpmyradio.com wrote:
i am very new to this, I am trying to program using CHIRP to the Baofeng UV-5R, as I am licensed to use GMRS, CHIRP, when I programmed in the frequency, put in DTSC in the tone mode column, which prevented me from hearing anyone, I changed it to tone, now I can hear other users, the tone is set at 88.5, channels that have a repeater are set to + 5.000000, FM at high power. As I am not sure if any of the settings are correct, as I am not able to contact anyone, is there anyone who can help me with the settings I need in all the columns? I appreciate any assistance you can give me in this!
Which repeater?
Jim KC9HI
Sorry, I thought I put that in, it's 462.500
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 7:44 PM Jim Unroe via Users < users@lists.chirpmyradio.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 9:38 PM Dave via Users users@lists.chirpmyradio.com wrote:
i am very new to this, I am trying to program using CHIRP to the Baofeng UV-5R, as I am licensed to use GMRS, CHIRP, when I programmed in the frequency, put in DTSC in the tone mode column, which prevented me from hearing anyone, I changed it to tone, now I can hear other users, the
tone
is set at 88.5, channels that have a repeater are set to + 5.000000, FM
at
high power. As I am not sure if any of the settings are correct, as I am not able to contact anyone, is there anyone who can help me with the settings I need
in
all the columns? I appreciate any assistance you can give me in this!
Which repeater?
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Dave,
I'm not understanding your problem.
Your repeater, on 462.500, does it have a CTCSS tone requirement to key the repeater? If so, you must set the radio to that tone - is that where you got the 88.5 tone?
If you monitor that frequency, 462.500, do you hear people on the repeater?
If you have the proper tone set, and the setting is for Tone, to send the proper CTCSS tone when you transmit, do you hear the repeater after you stop transmitting?
If you set the proper tone and choose tonesq, you will only hear people if the repeater transmits the tone you've set.
You could be struggling with one or more issues:
- Distance, the repeater is just too far away - Settings, you may not have the correct freq or CTCSS tone - lack of traffic, there just may be no one using the repeater when you are
If you think you've done everything right, and you've set the tone setting to Tone (not Tonesq), I'd suggest just turning the radio on sitting in the charging cradle, monitoring the repeater 24x7 and see if you hear anything - I don't think GMRS repeaters are used that often, but some organizations may use the repeater for nets or other on-air activity, and just leaving the radio on will help you find out if/when the repeater is used.
Have you tried reaching the repeater owner?
Good luck,
Ken
On Jan 13, 2025, at 21:42, Dave via Users users@lists.chirpmyradio.com wrote:
Sorry, I thought I put that in, it's 462.500
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 7:44 PM Jim Unroe via Users < users@lists.chirpmyradio.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 9:38 PM Dave via Users users@lists.chirpmyradio.com wrote:
i am very new to this, I am trying to program using CHIRP to the Baofeng UV-5R, as I am licensed to use GMRS, CHIRP, when I programmed in the frequency, put in DTSC in the tone mode column, which prevented me from hearing anyone, I changed it to tone, now I can hear other users, the
tone
is set at 88.5, channels that have a repeater are set to + 5.000000, FM
at
high power. As I am not sure if any of the settings are correct, as I am not able to contact anyone, is there anyone who can help me with the settings I need
in
all the columns? I appreciate any assistance you can give me in this!
Which repeater?
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Thank you for your information, I believe I have it right now, I will send it to the radio and see what happens.
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 9:35 PM Ken Hansen via Users < users@lists.chirpmyradio.com> wrote:
Dave,
I'm not understanding your problem.
Your repeater, on 462.500, does it have a CTCSS tone requirement to key the repeater? If so, you must set the radio to that tone - is that where you got the 88.5 tone?
If you monitor that frequency, 462.500, do you hear people on the repeater?
If you have the proper tone set, and the setting is for Tone, to send the proper CTCSS tone when you transmit, do you hear the repeater after you stop transmitting?
If you set the proper tone and choose tonesq, you will only hear people if the repeater transmits the tone you've set.
You could be struggling with one or more issues:
- Distance, the repeater is just too far away
- Settings, you may not have the correct freq or CTCSS tone
- lack of traffic, there just may be no one using the repeater when you are
If you think you've done everything right, and you've set the tone setting to Tone (not Tonesq), I'd suggest just turning the radio on sitting in the charging cradle, monitoring the repeater 24x7 and see if you hear anything
- I don't think GMRS repeaters are used that often, but some organizations
may use the repeater for nets or other on-air activity, and just leaving the radio on will help you find out if/when the repeater is used.
Have you tried reaching the repeater owner?
Good luck,
Ken
On Jan 13, 2025, at 21:42, Dave via Users users@lists.chirpmyradio.com
wrote:
Sorry, I thought I put that in, it's 462.500
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 7:44 PM Jim Unroe via Users < users@lists.chirpmyradio.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 9:38 PM Dave via Users users@lists.chirpmyradio.com wrote:
i am very new to this, I am trying to program using CHIRP to the
Baofeng
UV-5R, as I am licensed to use GMRS, CHIRP, when I programmed in the frequency, put in DTSC in the tone mode column, which prevented me from hearing anyone, I changed it to tone, now I can hear other users, the
tone
is set at 88.5, channels that have a repeater are set to + 5.000000, FM
at
high power. As I am not sure if any of the settings are correct, as I am not able
to
contact anyone, is there anyone who can help me with the settings I
need
in
all the columns? I appreciate any assistance you can give me in this!
Which repeater?
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Usually repeaters don't send out a CTCSS tone, they only use one to make sure it only hears signals that contain a CTCSS tone. Thus, the 88.5 should be fine for the rFreq, but you will need to send a tone to open the ears of the repeater. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave via Users" users@lists.chirpmyradio.com To: "CHIRP users list" users@lists.chirpmyradio.com Cc: "Dave" dave7196633933@gmail.com Sent: Monday, January 13, 2025 10:39 PM Subject: [users] Re: GMRS Programming using CHIRP
Thank you for your information, I believe I have it right now, I will send it to the radio and see what happens.
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 9:35 PM Ken Hansen via Users < users@lists.chirpmyradio.com> wrote:
Dave,
I'm not understanding your problem.
Your repeater, on 462.500, does it have a CTCSS tone requirement to key the repeater? If so, you must set the radio to that tone - is that where you got the 88.5 tone?
If you monitor that frequency, 462.500, do you hear people on the repeater?
If you have the proper tone set, and the setting is for Tone, to send the proper CTCSS tone when you transmit, do you hear the repeater after you stop transmitting?
If you set the proper tone and choose tonesq, you will only hear people if the repeater transmits the tone you've set.
You could be struggling with one or more issues:
- Distance, the repeater is just too far away
- Settings, you may not have the correct freq or CTCSS tone
- lack of traffic, there just may be no one using the repeater when you
are
If you think you've done everything right, and you've set the tone setting to Tone (not Tonesq), I'd suggest just turning the radio on sitting in the charging cradle, monitoring the repeater 24x7 and see if you hear anything
- I don't think GMRS repeaters are used that often, but some organizations
may use the repeater for nets or other on-air activity, and just leaving the radio on will help you find out if/when the repeater is used.
Have you tried reaching the repeater owner?
Good luck,
Ken
On Jan 13, 2025, at 21:42, Dave via Users users@lists.chirpmyradio.com
wrote:
Sorry, I thought I put that in, it's 462.500
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 7:44 PM Jim Unroe via Users < users@lists.chirpmyradio.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 9:38 PM Dave via Users users@lists.chirpmyradio.com wrote:
i am very new to this, I am trying to program using CHIRP to the
Baofeng
UV-5R, as I am licensed to use GMRS, CHIRP, when I programmed in the frequency, put in DTSC in the tone mode column, which prevented me from hearing anyone, I changed it to tone, now I can hear other users, the
tone
is set at 88.5, channels that have a repeater are set to + 5.000000, FM
at
high power. As I am not sure if any of the settings are correct, as I am not able
to
contact anyone, is there anyone who can help me with the settings I
need
in
all the columns? I appreciate any assistance you can give me in this!
Which repeater?
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Glen,
I disagree, many, many repeaters that use cut SS tone 'pass' the incoming tone to the output, so that users only hear silence until their repeater transmits another users signal.
The repeater requires a tone to 'open' the repeater, and the receiver is silenced until it 'hears' a signal with the proper ctcss tone.
With the wrong tone on transmit, the repeater will not rebroadcast the signal, it will be ignored.
If the receiver has the wrong tone set in its receiver and the receiver is programmed to only break squelch when the proper tone is heard, the user will hear nothing.
The tone squelch function is optional, it can be turned off, and the receiver will 'hear' any RF signal that is strong enough to break squelch.
The above is true for most commercial FM repeaters, as well as amateur repeaters. It may be different in the GMRS user space, but I doubt it. If there is a doubt about any particular repeater 'passing' the ctcss tone on transmit, the user can set their radio to only transmit the required tone, and to not have any output tone from the repeater. On a Baofeng that would mean setting signaling to 'tone' and not 'tonesq' (I think, from memory).
Ken, N2VIP
On Jan 14, 2025, at 12:41 AM, K0LNY ?? via Users users@lists.chirpmyradio.com wrote:
Usually repeaters don't send out a CTCSS tone, they only use one to make sure it only hears signals that contain a CTCSS tone. Thus, the 88.5 should be fine for the rFreq, but you will need to send a tone to open the ears of the repeater. Glenn
Hi Ken, We don't have any GMRS repeaters around here, but I don't set a specific receive CTCSS for the repeaters I use in Ham radio. I hope to put up a GMRS repeater for our community sometime.
Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hansen via Users" users@lists.chirpmyradio.com To: "CHIRP users list" users@lists.chirpmyradio.com Cc: "Ken Hansen" ken@n2vip.org Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 2:58 AM Subject: [users] Re: GMRS Programming using CHIRP
Glen,
I disagree, many, many repeaters that use cut SS tone 'pass' the incoming tone to the output, so that users only hear silence until their repeater transmits another users signal.
The repeater requires a tone to 'open' the repeater, and the receiver is silenced until it 'hears' a signal with the proper ctcss tone.
With the wrong tone on transmit, the repeater will not rebroadcast the signal, it will be ignored.
If the receiver has the wrong tone set in its receiver and the receiver is programmed to only break squelch when the proper tone is heard, the user will hear nothing.
The tone squelch function is optional, it can be turned off, and the receiver will 'hear' any RF signal that is strong enough to break squelch.
The above is true for most commercial FM repeaters, as well as amateur repeaters. It may be different in the GMRS user space, but I doubt it. If there is a doubt about any particular repeater 'passing' the ctcss tone on transmit, the user can set their radio to only transmit the required tone, and to not have any output tone from the repeater. On a Baofeng that would mean setting signaling to 'tone' and not 'tonesq' (I think, from memory).
Ken, N2VIP
On Jan 14, 2025, at 12:41 AM, K0LNY ?? via Users users@lists.chirpmyradio.com wrote:
Usually repeaters don't send out a CTCSS tone, they only use one to make sure it only hears signals that contain a CTCSS tone. Thus, the 88.5 should be fine for the rFreq, but you will need to send a tone to open the ears of the repeater. Glenn
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You never HAVE TO set an RX tone, you can choose to control what you hear by simply setting the radio RF Squelch to suppress static between transmissions.
I see 4x repeaters near your license location, W0OFK 146.730 And KG0S 444.125 both transmit tones on their output, while W0OFK 444.250 and K0RPT 146.880 do not transmit tones.
The above is from RepeaterBook, one of the data sources integrated into CHIRP.
Using an RX tone/signaling setting is optional, not required.
Ken, N2VIP
On Jan 14, 2025, at 11:56, K0LNY ?? via Users users@lists.chirpmyradio.com wrote:
Hi Ken, We don't have any GMRS repeaters around here, but I don't set a specific receive CTCSS for the repeaters I use in Ham radio. I hope to put up a GMRS repeater for our community sometime.
Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hansen via Users" users@lists.chirpmyradio.com To: "CHIRP users list" users@lists.chirpmyradio.com Cc: "Ken Hansen" ken@n2vip.org Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 2:58 AM Subject: [users] Re: GMRS Programming using CHIRP
Glen,
I disagree, many, many repeaters that use cut SS tone 'pass' the incoming tone to the output, so that users only hear silence until their repeater transmits another users signal.
The repeater requires a tone to 'open' the repeater, and the receiver is silenced until it 'hears' a signal with the proper ctcss tone.
With the wrong tone on transmit, the repeater will not rebroadcast the signal, it will be ignored.
If the receiver has the wrong tone set in its receiver and the receiver is programmed to only break squelch when the proper tone is heard, the user will hear nothing.
The tone squelch function is optional, it can be turned off, and the receiver will 'hear' any RF signal that is strong enough to break squelch.
The above is true for most commercial FM repeaters, as well as amateur repeaters. It may be different in the GMRS user space, but I doubt it. If there is a doubt about any particular repeater 'passing' the ctcss tone on transmit, the user can set their radio to only transmit the required tone, and to not have any output tone from the repeater. On a Baofeng that would mean setting signaling to 'tone' and not 'tonesq' (I think, from memory).
Ken, N2VIP
On Jan 14, 2025, at 12:41 AM, K0LNY ?? via Users users@lists.chirpmyradio.com wrote:
Usually repeaters don't send out a CTCSS tone, they only use one to make sure it only hears signals that contain a CTCSS tone. Thus, the 88.5 should be fine for the rFreq, but you will need to send a tone to open the ears of the repeater. Glenn
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Yes, I would rather hear anything else coming in on the repeater's transmit frequency, in case someone does not have a radio set up right. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hansen via Users" users@lists.chirpmyradio.com To: "CHIRP users list" users@lists.chirpmyradio.com Cc: "Ken Hansen" ken@n2vip.org Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 12:18 PM Subject: [users] Re: GMRS Programming using CHIRP
You never HAVE TO set an RX tone, you can choose to control what you hear by simply setting the radio RF Squelch to suppress static between transmissions.
I see 4x repeaters near your license location, W0OFK 146.730 And KG0S 444.125 both transmit tones on their output, while W0OFK 444.250 and K0RPT 146.880 do not transmit tones.
The above is from RepeaterBook, one of the data sources integrated into CHIRP.
Using an RX tone/signaling setting is optional, not required.
Ken, N2VIP
On Jan 14, 2025, at 11:56, K0LNY ?? via Users users@lists.chirpmyradio.com wrote:
Hi Ken, We don't have any GMRS repeaters around here, but I don't set a specific receive CTCSS for the repeaters I use in Ham radio. I hope to put up a GMRS repeater for our community sometime.
Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hansen via Users" users@lists.chirpmyradio.com To: "CHIRP users list" users@lists.chirpmyradio.com Cc: "Ken Hansen" ken@n2vip.org Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 2:58 AM Subject: [users] Re: GMRS Programming using CHIRP
Glen,
I disagree, many, many repeaters that use cut SS tone 'pass' the incoming tone to the output, so that users only hear silence until their repeater transmits another users signal.
The repeater requires a tone to 'open' the repeater, and the receiver is silenced until it 'hears' a signal with the proper ctcss tone.
With the wrong tone on transmit, the repeater will not rebroadcast the signal, it will be ignored.
If the receiver has the wrong tone set in its receiver and the receiver is programmed to only break squelch when the proper tone is heard, the user will hear nothing.
The tone squelch function is optional, it can be turned off, and the receiver will 'hear' any RF signal that is strong enough to break squelch.
The above is true for most commercial FM repeaters, as well as amateur repeaters. It may be different in the GMRS user space, but I doubt it. If there is a doubt about any particular repeater 'passing' the ctcss tone on transmit, the user can set their radio to only transmit the required tone, and to not have any output tone from the repeater. On a Baofeng that would mean setting signaling to 'tone' and not 'tonesq' (I think, from memory).
Ken, N2VIP
On Jan 14, 2025, at 12:41 AM, K0LNY ?? via Users users@lists.chirpmyradio.com wrote:
Usually repeaters don't send out a CTCSS tone, they only use one to make sure it only hears signals that contain a CTCSS tone. Thus, the 88.5 should be fine for the rFreq, but you will need to send a tone to open the ears of the repeater. Glenn
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Your decision to not use CTCSS tone squelch on your radios has nothing to do with the original statement you made:
Usually repeaters don't send out a CTCSS tone, they only use one to make sure it only hears signals that contain a CTCSS tone.
The OP was struggling to work a local GMRS repeater, and IF he had activated ToneSq and the repeater didn't pass the tone thru, that could explain his issue. IF he had specified the wrong tone for receive and it didn't match what the repeater passes, that could explain his issue.
We are still awaiting a response from David if his issue is resolved.
Ken, N2VIP
On Jan 14, 2025, at 13:43, K0LNY ?? via Users users@lists.chirpmyradio.com wrote: Yes, I would rather hear anything else coming in on the repeater's transmit frequency, in case someone does not have a radio set up right. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hansen via Users" users@lists.chirpmyradio.com To: "CHIRP users list" users@lists.chirpmyradio.com Cc: "Ken Hansen" ken@n2vip.org Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 12:18 PM Subject: [users] Re: GMRS Programming using CHIRP
You never HAVE TO set an RX tone, you can choose to control what you hear by simply setting the radio RF Squelch to suppress static between transmissions.
I see 4x repeaters near your license location, W0OFK 146.730 And KG0S 444.125 both transmit tones on their output, while W0OFK 444.250 and K0RPT 146.880 do not transmit tones.
The above is from RepeaterBook, one of the data sources integrated into CHIRP.
Using an RX tone/signaling setting is optional, not required.
Ken, N2VIP
On Jan 14, 2025, at 11:56, K0LNY ?? via Users users@lists.chirpmyradio.com wrote:
Hi Ken, We don't have any GMRS repeaters around here, but I don't set a specific receive CTCSS for the repeaters I use in Ham radio. I hope to put up a GMRS repeater for our community sometime.
Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hansen via Users" users@lists.chirpmyradio.com To: "CHIRP users list" users@lists.chirpmyradio.com Cc: "Ken Hansen" ken@n2vip.org Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 2:58 AM Subject: [users] Re: GMRS Programming using CHIRP
Glen,
I disagree, many, many repeaters that use cut SS tone 'pass' the incoming tone to the output, so that users only hear silence until their repeater transmits another users signal.
The repeater requires a tone to 'open' the repeater, and the receiver is silenced until it 'hears' a signal with the proper ctcss tone.
With the wrong tone on transmit, the repeater will not rebroadcast the signal, it will be ignored.
If the receiver has the wrong tone set in its receiver and the receiver is programmed to only break squelch when the proper tone is heard, the user will hear nothing.
The tone squelch function is optional, it can be turned off, and the receiver will 'hear' any RF signal that is strong enough to break squelch.
The above is true for most commercial FM repeaters, as well as amateur repeaters. It may be different in the GMRS user space, but I doubt it. If there is a doubt about any particular repeater 'passing' the ctcss tone on transmit, the user can set their radio to only transmit the required tone, and to not have any output tone from the repeater. On a Baofeng that would mean setting signaling to 'tone' and not 'tonesq' (I think, from memory).
Ken, N2VIP
On Jan 14, 2025, at 12:41 AM, K0LNY ?? via Users users@lists.chirpmyradio.com wrote: Usually repeaters don't send out a CTCSS tone, they only use one to make sure it only hears signals that contain a CTCSS tone. Thus, the 88.5 should be fine for the rFreq, but you will need to send a tone to open the ears of the repeater. Glenn
<snip>
I worked on the programming again for about 6 hours last night, I was able to get some of my frequencies right, my problem is, using repeater book, most of the GMRS tones listed for my area are wrong, I have been searching the local repeater sites for the correct ones. For what I do have right, its pretty cool to hear the repeater activate when I transmit!
On Tue, Jan 14, 2025, 4:06 PM Ken Hansen via Users < users@lists.chirpmyradio.com> wrote:
Your decision to not use CTCSS tone squelch on your radios has nothing to do with the original statement you made:
Usually repeaters don't send out a CTCSS tone, they only use one to make
sure it only hears signals that contain a CTCSS tone.
The OP was struggling to work a local GMRS repeater, and IF he had activated ToneSq and the repeater didn't pass the tone thru, that could explain his issue. IF he had specified the wrong tone for receive and it didn't match what the repeater passes, that could explain his issue.
We are still awaiting a response from David if his issue is resolved.
Ken, N2VIP
On Jan 14, 2025, at 13:43, K0LNY ?? via Users <
users@lists.chirpmyradio.com> wrote:
Yes, I would rather hear anything else coming in on the repeater's
transmit
frequency, in case someone does not have a radio set up right. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hansen via Users" users@lists.chirpmyradio.com To: "CHIRP users list" users@lists.chirpmyradio.com Cc: "Ken Hansen" ken@n2vip.org Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 12:18 PM Subject: [users] Re: GMRS Programming using CHIRP
You never HAVE TO set an RX tone, you can choose to control what you
hear by
simply setting the radio RF Squelch to suppress static between transmissions.
I see 4x repeaters near your license location, W0OFK 146.730 And KG0S 444.125 both transmit tones on their output, while W0OFK 444.250 and
K0RPT
146.880 do not transmit tones.
The above is from RepeaterBook, one of the data sources integrated into CHIRP.
Using an RX tone/signaling setting is optional, not required.
Ken, N2VIP
On Jan 14, 2025, at 11:56, K0LNY ?? via Users users@lists.chirpmyradio.com wrote:
Hi Ken, We don't have any GMRS repeaters around here, but I don't set a specific receive CTCSS for the repeaters I use in Ham radio. I hope to put up a GMRS repeater for our community sometime.
Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hansen via Users" users@lists.chirpmyradio.com To: "CHIRP users list" users@lists.chirpmyradio.com Cc: "Ken Hansen" ken@n2vip.org Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 2:58 AM Subject: [users] Re: GMRS Programming using CHIRP
Glen,
I disagree, many, many repeaters that use cut SS tone 'pass' the
incoming
tone to the output, so that users only hear silence until their repeater transmits another users signal.
The repeater requires a tone to 'open' the repeater, and the receiver is silenced until it 'hears' a signal with the proper ctcss tone.
With the wrong tone on transmit, the repeater will not rebroadcast the signal, it will be ignored.
If the receiver has the wrong tone set in its receiver and the receiver
is
programmed to only break squelch when the proper tone is heard, the user will hear nothing.
The tone squelch function is optional, it can be turned off, and the receiver will 'hear' any RF signal that is strong enough to break
squelch.
The above is true for most commercial FM repeaters, as well as amateur repeaters. It may be different in the GMRS user space, but I doubt it.
If
there is a doubt about any particular repeater 'passing' the ctcss tone
on
transmit, the user can set their radio to only transmit the required
tone,
and to not have any output tone from the repeater. On a Baofeng that
would
mean setting signaling to 'tone' and not 'tonesq' (I think, from
memory).
Ken, N2VIP
On Jan 14, 2025, at 12:41 AM, K0LNY ?? via Users users@lists.chirpmyradio.com wrote: Usually repeaters don't send out a CTCSS tone, they only use one to
make
sure it only hears signals that contain a CTCSS tone. Thus, the 88.5 should be fine for the rFreq, but you will need to send
a
tone to open the ears of the repeater. Glenn
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Thanks for the information!
Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Get Outlook for Androidhttps://aka.ms/AAb9ysg ________________________________ From: Dave dave7196633933@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2025 4:51:05 AM To: CHIRP users list users@lists.chirpmyradio.com Cc: Ken Hansen ken@n2vip.org Subject: Re: [users] Re: GMRS Programming using CHIRP
I worked on the programming again for about 6 hours last night, I was able to get some of my frequencies right, my problem is, using repeater book, most of the GMRS tones listed for my area are wrong, I have been searching the local repeater sites for the correct ones. For what I do have right, its pretty cool to hear the repeater activate when I transmit!
On Tue, Jan 14, 2025, 4:06 PM Ken Hansen via Users <users@lists.chirpmyradio.commailto:users@lists.chirpmyradio.com> wrote: Your decision to not use CTCSS tone squelch on your radios has nothing to do with the original statement you made:
Usually repeaters don't send out a CTCSS tone, they only use one to make sure it only hears signals that contain a CTCSS tone.
The OP was struggling to work a local GMRS repeater, and IF he had activated ToneSq and the repeater didn't pass the tone thru, that could explain his issue. IF he had specified the wrong tone for receive and it didn't match what the repeater passes, that could explain his issue.
We are still awaiting a response from David if his issue is resolved.
Ken, N2VIP
On Jan 14, 2025, at 13:43, K0LNY ?? via Users <users@lists.chirpmyradio.commailto:users@lists.chirpmyradio.com> wrote: Yes, I would rather hear anything else coming in on the repeater's transmit frequency, in case someone does not have a radio set up right. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hansen via Users" <users@lists.chirpmyradio.commailto:users@lists.chirpmyradio.com> To: "CHIRP users list" <users@lists.chirpmyradio.commailto:users@lists.chirpmyradio.com> Cc: "Ken Hansen" <ken@n2vip.orgmailto:ken@n2vip.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 12:18 PM Subject: [users] Re: GMRS Programming using CHIRP
You never HAVE TO set an RX tone, you can choose to control what you hear by simply setting the radio RF Squelch to suppress static between transmissions.
I see 4x repeaters near your license location, W0OFK 146.730 And KG0S 444.125 both transmit tones on their output, while W0OFK 444.250 and K0RPT 146.880 do not transmit tones.
The above is from RepeaterBook, one of the data sources integrated into CHIRP.
Using an RX tone/signaling setting is optional, not required.
Ken, N2VIP
On Jan 14, 2025, at 11:56, K0LNY ?? via Users <users@lists.chirpmyradio.commailto:users@lists.chirpmyradio.com> wrote:
Hi Ken, We don't have any GMRS repeaters around here, but I don't set a specific receive CTCSS for the repeaters I use in Ham radio. I hope to put up a GMRS repeater for our community sometime.
Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hansen via Users" <users@lists.chirpmyradio.commailto:users@lists.chirpmyradio.com> To: "CHIRP users list" <users@lists.chirpmyradio.commailto:users@lists.chirpmyradio.com> Cc: "Ken Hansen" <ken@n2vip.orgmailto:ken@n2vip.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 2:58 AM Subject: [users] Re: GMRS Programming using CHIRP
Glen,
I disagree, many, many repeaters that use cut SS tone 'pass' the incoming tone to the output, so that users only hear silence until their repeater transmits another users signal.
The repeater requires a tone to 'open' the repeater, and the receiver is silenced until it 'hears' a signal with the proper ctcss tone.
With the wrong tone on transmit, the repeater will not rebroadcast the signal, it will be ignored.
If the receiver has the wrong tone set in its receiver and the receiver is programmed to only break squelch when the proper tone is heard, the user will hear nothing.
The tone squelch function is optional, it can be turned off, and the receiver will 'hear' any RF signal that is strong enough to break squelch.
The above is true for most commercial FM repeaters, as well as amateur repeaters. It may be different in the GMRS user space, but I doubt it. If there is a doubt about any particular repeater 'passing' the ctcss tone on transmit, the user can set their radio to only transmit the required tone, and to not have any output tone from the repeater. On a Baofeng that would mean setting signaling to 'tone' and not 'tonesq' (I think, from memory).
Ken, N2VIP
On Jan 14, 2025, at 12:41 AM, K0LNY ?? via Users <users@lists.chirpmyradio.commailto:users@lists.chirpmyradio.com> wrote: Usually repeaters don't send out a CTCSS tone, they only use one to make sure it only hears signals that contain a CTCSS tone. Thus, the 88.5 should be fine for the rFreq, but you will need to send a tone to open the ears of the repeater. Glenn
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On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 10:42 PM Dave via Users users@lists.chirpmyradio.com wrote:
Sorry, I thought I put that in, it's 462.500
Not the frequency. Where is it? What is its callsign? That way it can be looked up in RepeaterBook or other GMRS resources.
Jim KC9HI
Hi David, The repeaters will likely have a CTCSS tone for you to transmit. This is different from the receive CTCSS. Like your receive CTCSS, when it is set to an off tone, you will only hear transmissions sent to you with that tone. The repeaters work the same way, they won't hear you unless you send a transmit CTCSS that allows them to hear your radio. They are all different, based on how the manager of that repeater set it up. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave via Users" users@lists.chirpmyradio.com To: "CHIRP users list" users@lists.chirpmyradio.com Cc: "Dave" dave7196633933@gmail.com Sent: Monday, January 13, 2025 8:30 PM Subject: [users] GMRS Programming using CHIRP
i am very new to this, I am trying to program using CHIRP to the Baofeng UV-5R, as I am licensed to use GMRS, CHIRP, when I programmed in the frequency, put in DTSC in the tone mode column, which prevented me from hearing anyone, I changed it to tone, now I can hear other users, the tone is set at 88.5, channels that have a repeater are set to + 5.000000, FM at high power. As I am not sure if any of the settings are correct, as I am not able to contact anyone, is there anyone who can help me with the settings I need in all the columns? I appreciate any assistance you can give me in this! _______________________________________________ Users mailing list users@lists.chirpmyradio.com https://lists.chirpmyradio.com/postorius/lists/users.lists.chirpmyradio.com To unsubscribe, send an email to users-leave@lists.chirpmyradio.com To report this email as off-topic, please email users-owner@lists.chirpmyradio.com List archives: https://lists.chirpmyradio.com/hyperkitty/list/users@lists.chirpmyradio.com/
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