[chirp_users] 64-bit Python.app for macOS 10.15 Catalina
Will there be a 64-bit version of the Python app in the KK7DS Python runtime or should Mac users just update the version of Python that they're running on their own to keep Chirp working when updating to macOS 10.15?
Thanks & 73,
Jeff K3JRZ https://www.qrz.com/db/K3JRZ 100WAAW http://100wattsandawire.com/thegathering/ #404
Can MacOS use a standard Python installation just like everyone else? If not, the update of the KK7DS runtime is really important. Right now it’s just a bit of an annoyance, and things are already slowly breaking. But it will no doubt feaster into something much bigger.
Lynda
On Sep 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Jeff Zarge - K3JRZ K3JRZ@arrl.net wrote:
Will there be a 64-bit version of the Python app in the KK7DS Python runtime or should Mac users just update the version of Python that they're running on their own to keep Chirp working when updating to macOS 10.15?
Thanks & 73,
Jeff K3JRZ https://www.qrz.com/db/K3JRZ https://www.qrz.com/db/K3JRZ 100WAAW http://100wattsandawire.com/thegathering/ #404 _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Lynda Leung at x-rogue@mermaid.org To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
FYI... I installed macOS 10.15 Catalina and Chirp will not open. I did the security thing to all it to open, but it just doesn't open. This is with the latest build "chirp-daily-20190925.app".
Should I install a 64-bit version of Python?
Thanks & 73,
Jeff K3JRZ https://www.qrz.com/db/K3JRZ 100WAAW http://100wattsandawire.com/thegathering/ #404
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 7:02 PM Mermaid x-rogue@mermaid.org wrote:
Can MacOS use a standard Python installation just like everyone else? If not, the update of the KK7DS runtime is really important. Right now it’s just a bit of an annoyance, and things are already slowly breaking. But it will no doubt feaster into something much bigger.
Lynda
On Sep 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Jeff Zarge - K3JRZ K3JRZ@arrl.net wrote:
Will there be a 64-bit version of the Python app in the KK7DS Python runtime or should Mac users just update the version of Python that they're running on their own to keep Chirp working when updating to macOS 10.15?
Thanks & 73,
Jeff K3JRZ https://www.qrz.com/db/K3JRZ 100WAAW http://100wattsandawire.com/thegathering/ #404 _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Lynda Leung at x-rogue@mermaid.org To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
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Hi Jeff,
I just upgraded my 2014 MacBook Pro to Catalina (10.15), and was shocked to see that none of my 32-bit software would work. Luckily, I use Windows 10 running on BootCamp on the Mac for all my radio programming software, so CHIRP was not affected for me.
*-----------------------------------------------------*
*John Tibbetts / W9APX*
*Emergency Coordinator, Central SFV* *Los Angeles ARES Northwest*
*W9APX.hamradio@gmail.com W9APX.hamradio@gmail.com* *www.areslax.org http://www.areslax.org*
*Technical Vice President, * *San Fernando Valley Amateur Radio Club* www.w6sd.com
On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 4:58 PM Jeff Zarge - K3JRZ K3JRZ@arrl.net wrote:
FYI... I installed macOS 10.15 Catalina and Chirp will not open. I did the security thing to all it to open, but it just doesn't open. This is with the latest build "chirp-daily-20190925.app".
Should I install a 64-bit version of Python?
Thanks & 73,
Jeff K3JRZ https://www.qrz.com/db/K3JRZ 100WAAW http://100wattsandawire.com/thegathering/ #404
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 7:02 PM Mermaid x-rogue@mermaid.org wrote:
Can MacOS use a standard Python installation just like everyone else? If not, the update of the KK7DS runtime is really important. Right now it’s just a bit of an annoyance, and things are already slowly breaking. But it will no doubt feaster into something much bigger.
Lynda
On Sep 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Jeff Zarge - K3JRZ K3JRZ@arrl.net wrote:
Will there be a 64-bit version of the Python app in the KK7DS Python runtime or should Mac users just update the version of Python that they're running on their own to keep Chirp working when updating to macOS 10.15?
Thanks & 73,
Jeff K3JRZ https://www.qrz.com/db/K3JRZ 100WAAW http://100wattsandawire.com/thegathering/ #404 _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Lynda Leung at x-rogue@mermaid.org To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
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It's been known for about 2 years that Apple was going to kill off all 32-bit apps. They told Apple software developers that this was happening back then. I knew about just from staying up-to-date with what's going on with Apple & their tech.
My original email was from September 24th. I knew Catalina was coming and asked if anyone of the Chirp developers were ready for this. Apparently I don't think they were/, bothered to be, or whatever. I just don't know if I should go rogue and install a 64-bit version of Python (the 32-bit version of Python is suggested to be installed for Chirp on the Mac and I'm pretty sure THAT is the culprit). But I am not a programmer or a Unix guy so that's why I've asked about installing an official version of Python (64-bit).
Thanks & 73,
Jeff K3JRZ https://www.qrz.com/db/K3JRZ 100WAAW http://100wattsandawire.com/thegathering/ #404
On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 8:03 PM John Tibbetts w9apx.hamradio@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Jeff,
I just upgraded my 2014 MacBook Pro to Catalina (10.15), and was shocked to see that none of my 32-bit software would work. Luckily, I use Windows 10 running on BootCamp on the Mac for all my radio programming software, so CHIRP was not affected for me.
*-----------------------------------------------------*
*John Tibbetts / W9APX*
*Emergency Coordinator, Central SFV* *Los Angeles ARES Northwest*
*W9APX.hamradio@gmail.com W9APX.hamradio@gmail.com* *www.areslax.org http://www.areslax.org*
*Technical Vice President, * *San Fernando Valley Amateur Radio Club* www.w6sd.com
On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 4:58 PM Jeff Zarge - K3JRZ K3JRZ@arrl.net wrote:
FYI... I installed macOS 10.15 Catalina and Chirp will not open. I did the security thing to all it to open, but it just doesn't open. This is with the latest build "chirp-daily-20190925.app".
Should I install a 64-bit version of Python?
Thanks & 73,
Jeff K3JRZ https://www.qrz.com/db/K3JRZ 100WAAW http://100wattsandawire.com/thegathering/ #404
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 7:02 PM Mermaid x-rogue@mermaid.org wrote:
Can MacOS use a standard Python installation just like everyone else? If not, the update of the KK7DS runtime is really important. Right now it’s just a bit of an annoyance, and things are already slowly breaking. But it will no doubt feaster into something much bigger.
Lynda
On Sep 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Jeff Zarge - K3JRZ K3JRZ@arrl.net wrote:
Will there be a 64-bit version of the Python app in the KK7DS Python runtime or should Mac users just update the version of Python that they're running on their own to keep Chirp working when updating to macOS 10.15?
Thanks & 73,
Jeff K3JRZ https://www.qrz.com/db/K3JRZ 100WAAW http://100wattsandawire.com/thegathering/ #404 _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Lynda Leung at x-rogue@mermaid.org To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
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I'm still on Mojave, but 64-bit python2 seems to install fine with brew. And pyserial seems to install fine with pip but I can't figure out how to get libxml2 with python support using brew.
@Dan Smith, I haven't investigated how deeply libxml2 is used but would you accept a patch for using eTree?
Tony
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________________________________ From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com on behalf of Jeff Zarge - K3JRZ K3JRZ@arrl.net Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 7:09:26 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: Re: [chirp_users] 64-bit Python.app for macOS 10.15 Catalina
It's been known for about 2 years that Apple was going to kill off all 32-bit apps. They told Apple software developers that this was happening back then. I knew about just from staying up-to-date with what's going on with Apple & their tech.
My original email was from September 24th. I knew Catalina was coming and asked if anyone of the Chirp developers were ready for this. Apparently I don't think they were/, bothered to be, or whatever. I just don't know if I should go rogue and install a 64-bit version of Python (the 32-bit version of Python is suggested to be installed for Chirp on the Mac and I'm pretty sure THAT is the culprit). But I am not a programmer or a Unix guy so that's why I've asked about installing an official version of Python (64-bit).
Thanks & 73,
Jeff K3JRZ https://www.qrz.com/db/K3JRZ 100WAAWhttp://100wattsandawire.com/thegathering/ #404
On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 8:03 PM John Tibbetts <w9apx.hamradio@gmail.commailto:w9apx.hamradio@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Jeff,
I just upgraded my 2014 MacBook Pro to Catalina (10.15), and was shocked to see that none of my 32-bit software would work. Luckily, I use Windows 10 running on BootCamp on the Mac for all my radio programming software, so CHIRP was not affected for me.
----------------------------------------------------- John Tibbetts / W9APX Emergency Coordinator, Central SFV Los Angeles ARES Northwest W9APX.hamradio@gmail.commailto:W9APX.hamradio@gmail.com www.areslax.orghttp://www.areslax.org
Technical Vice President, San Fernando Valley Amateur Radio Club www.w6sd.comhttp://www.w6sd.com
On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 4:58 PM Jeff Zarge - K3JRZ <K3JRZ@arrl.netmailto:K3JRZ@arrl.net> wrote: FYI... I installed macOS 10.15 Catalina and Chirp will not open. I did the security thing to all it to open, but it just doesn't open. This is with the latest build "chirp-daily-20190925.app".
Should I install a 64-bit version of Python?
Thanks & 73,
Jeff K3JRZ https://www.qrz.com/db/K3JRZ 100WAAWhttp://100wattsandawire.com/thegathering/ #404
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 7:02 PM Mermaid <x-rogue@mermaid.orgmailto:x-rogue@mermaid.org> wrote: Can MacOS use a standard Python installation just like everyone else? If not, the update of the KK7DS runtime is really important. Right now it’s just a bit of an annoyance, and things are already slowly breaking. But it will no doubt feaster into something much bigger.
Lynda
On Sep 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Jeff Zarge - K3JRZ <K3JRZ@arrl.netmailto:K3JRZ@arrl.net> wrote:
Will there be a 64-bit version of the Python app in the KK7DS Python runtime or should Mac users just update the version of Python that they're running on their own to keep Chirp working when updating to macOS 10.15?
Thanks & 73,
Jeff K3JRZ https://www.qrz.com/db/K3JRZ 100WAAWhttp://100wattsandawire.com/thegathering/ #404 _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.commailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Lynda Leung at x-rogue@mermaid.orgmailto:x-rogue@mermaid.org To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.commailto:chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
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Catalina drops 32 bit support for everything so you will definitely need a 64 bit python runtime. I have not used chirp on osx so I don't know if what I'm recommending even exists.
Based on https://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/6103it appears that the KK7DS Python Runtime R10 is not 64 bit and won't help.
Maybe someone else has some leads on getting python2 64 bit running on OSX? (Catalina or not)
Tony
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________________________________ From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com on behalf of Jeff Zarge - K3JRZ K3JRZ@arrl.net Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 6:56:37 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: Re: [chirp_users] 64-bit Python.app for macOS 10.15 Catalina
FYI... I installed macOS 10.15 Catalina and Chirp will not open. I did the security thing to all it to open, but it just doesn't open. This is with the latest build "chirp-daily-20190925.app".
Should I install a 64-bit version of Python?
Thanks & 73,
Jeff K3JRZ https://www.qrz.com/db/K3JRZ 100WAAWhttp://100wattsandawire.com/thegathering/ #404
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 7:02 PM Mermaid <x-rogue@mermaid.orgmailto:x-rogue@mermaid.org> wrote: Can MacOS use a standard Python installation just like everyone else? If not, the update of the KK7DS runtime is really important. Right now it’s just a bit of an annoyance, and things are already slowly breaking. But it will no doubt feaster into something much bigger.
Lynda
On Sep 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Jeff Zarge - K3JRZ <K3JRZ@arrl.netmailto:K3JRZ@arrl.net> wrote:
Will there be a 64-bit version of the Python app in the KK7DS Python runtime or should Mac users just update the version of Python that they're running on their own to keep Chirp working when updating to macOS 10.15?
Thanks & 73,
Jeff K3JRZ https://www.qrz.com/db/K3JRZ 100WAAWhttp://100wattsandawire.com/thegathering/ #404 _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.commailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Lynda Leung at x-rogue@mermaid.orgmailto:x-rogue@mermaid.org To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.commailto:chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
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