[chirp_users] Data changes from "Upload" to "Download"
Wonder why the data I upload to my radio is changed when it downloads. Specially: When I upload the tone of 100 MHz, when downloaded from the radio, the 100 MHZ is changes to 88.5 MHz. Also the Tone Mode changes from Tone to TSQL? Why is that?
Radio: Baofeng F8HP CHIRP: CHIRP daily-20160110
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Rick, KE0HCN ke0hcn@gmail.com wrote:
Wonder why the data I upload to my radio is changed when it downloads. Specially: When I upload the tone of 100 MHz, when downloaded from the radio, the 100 MHZ is changes to 88.5 MHz. Also the Tone Mode changes from Tone to TSQL? Why is that?
Radio: Baofeng F8HP CHIRP: CHIRP daily-20160110
-- Rick Dunagan KE0HCN
Rick,
You would probably understand what is going on better if you click on View and enabled "Hide Unused Fields".
When Tone Mode is set to Tone, only the Tone column is used. You set the Tone column frequency to 100.0 and leave the ToneSql column set to the default 88.5 (it is ignored). When you press the PTT button a 100.0 Hz CTCSS tone is transmitted but no tone is required to open your receivers squelch. This is like setting menu 11 (R-CTCS) to OFF and menu 13 (T-CTCS) to 100.0 Hz.
When Tone Mode is set to TSQL, only the ToneSql column is used. You set the ToneSql column to 100.0 and leave the Tone column set to the default 88.5 (it is ignored). When you press the PTT button a 100.0 Hz CTCSS tone is transmitted. And when you receive a 100.0 Hz CTCSS tone is required to open the squelch of your radio. This is like setting menu 11 (R-CTCS) to 100.0 Hz and menu 13 (T-CTCS) to 100.0 Hz.
So if you are putting values into the unused columns, CHIRP will put them back to their default values (the value that all unused fields should have).
Take a look at these guides and examples: http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php#guides
Jim KC9HI
Yes, with your explanation and the menu setting...makes sense. Thanks
Rick ke0hcn
On 1/24/2016 3:22 PM, Jim Unroe wrote:
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Rick, KE0HCN ke0hcn@gmail.com wrote:
Wonder why the data I upload to my radio is changed when it downloads. Specially: When I upload the tone of 100 MHz, when downloaded from the radio, the 100 MHZ is changes to 88.5 MHz. Also the Tone Mode changes from Tone to TSQL? Why is that?
Radio: Baofeng F8HP CHIRP: CHIRP daily-20160110
-- Rick Dunagan KE0HCN
Rick,
You would probably understand what is going on better if you click on View and enabled "Hide Unused Fields".
When Tone Mode is set to Tone, only the Tone column is used. You set the Tone column frequency to 100.0 and leave the ToneSql column set to the default 88.5 (it is ignored). When you press the PTT button a 100.0 Hz CTCSS tone is transmitted but no tone is required to open your receivers squelch. This is like setting menu 11 (R-CTCS) to OFF and menu 13 (T-CTCS) to 100.0 Hz.
When Tone Mode is set to TSQL, only the ToneSql column is used. You set the ToneSql column to 100.0 and leave the Tone column set to the default 88.5 (it is ignored). When you press the PTT button a 100.0 Hz CTCSS tone is transmitted. And when you receive a 100.0 Hz CTCSS tone is required to open the squelch of your radio. This is like setting menu 11 (R-CTCS) to 100.0 Hz and menu 13 (T-CTCS) to 100.0 Hz.
So if you are putting values into the unused columns, CHIRP will put them back to their default values (the value that all unused fields should have).
Take a look at these guides and examples: http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php#guides
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On 2016-01-24 14:22, Jim Unroe wrote:
When Tone Mode is set to TSQL, only the ToneSql column is used. You set the ToneSql column to 100.0 and leave the Tone column set to the default 88.5 (it is ignored).
I always assumed in TSql, both columns were in play, so as to deal with repeaters that might be running split-tone. Not so?
Benton 24jan16 -- KF7QLP Benton Holzwarth benton@siletzbay.com
Both columns are used when CROSS is selected, if the radio supports different tones.
On 01/24/2016 07:33 PM, Benton wrote:
On 2016-01-24 14:22, Jim Unroe wrote:
When Tone Mode is set to TSQL, only the ToneSql column is used. You set the ToneSql column to 100.0 and leave the Tone column set to the default 88.5 (it is ignored).
I always assumed in TSql, both columns were in play, so as to deal with repeaters that might be running split-tone. Not so?
Benton 24jan16
KF7QLP Benton Holzwarth benton@siletzbay.com
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On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Benton benton@siletzbay.com wrote:
I always assumed in TSql, both columns were in play, so as to deal with repeaters that might be running split-tone. Not so?
Not so. For split tone...
Tone Mode = Cross Cross Mode = Tone->Tone Tone = {tone for TX} ToneSql = {tone for RX}
Jim KC9HI
i have 2 baofeng radios 1 is UV-5RA the other is UV-5RA+ they look a little different, but basically they are the same both show 297 as firmware ver when put on with 3 pressed only when read with chirp i can see that 1 is really 307 and the other is 311!
i cannot upload to one radio what i downloaded from the other because firmware versions are different! therefore i have to program each one seperately! which is preaty annoying!! i do not see any differace in data formation! if i remember right it was not like that on previous versions of chirp
when i use the radio to radio cloning cable it works well so it is weired that under chip it doesnt. did chirp programmers preferred giving us a hard time just to be on the safe side?? i will thank the one that will go through the trouble to check which firmware versions are actually compatible and allow uploading and which are not and do not allow it. i know it is easier to compare version numbers and decide. but i believe easy should be kept for the user not for the programmer. i really hope someone take the job. or at least tell me which older version of chip did not check the firmware version. or checked the wrong version field which shows 297 for both
what is the meaning of the message read with power on+6?
2016-01-24 22:58 GMT+02:00 Rick, KE0HCN ke0hcn@gmail.com:
Wonder why the data I upload to my radio is changed when it downloads. Specially: When I upload the tone of 100 MHz, when downloaded from the radio, the 100 MHZ is changes to 88.5 MHz. Also the Tone Mode changes from Tone to TSQL? Why is that?
Radio: Baofeng F8HP CHIRP: CHIRP daily-20160110
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On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Amnon Zohar amnon.zohar@gmail.com wrote:
i have 2 baofeng radios 1 is UV-5RA the other is UV-5RA+ they look a little different, but basically they are the same both show 297 as firmware ver when put on with 3 pressed only when read with chirp i can see that 1 is really 307 and the other is 311!
Since BFB299, the [3] key + Power-on message is no longer the "real" firmware version.
i cannot upload to one radio what i downloaded from the other because firmware versions are different! therefore i have to program each one seperately! which is preaty annoying!! i do not see any differace in data formation! if i remember right it was not like that on previous versions of chirp
You can thank Baofeng for this.
when i use the radio to radio cloning cable it works well so it is weired that under chip it doesnt. did chirp programmers preferred giving us a hard time just to be on the safe side??
Radio to radio cloning does not dump the whole memory of one radio into the other. The memory layouts between versions are not the same. The latest firmware versions have removed the radio-to-radio cloning because of the main memory layout changes.
i will thank the one that will go through the trouble to check which firmware versions are actually compatible and allow uploading and which are not and do not allow it. i know it is easier to compare version numbers and decide. but i believe easy should be kept for the user not for the programmer. i really hope someone take the job. or at least tell me which older version of chip did not check the firmware version. or checked the wrong version field which shows 297 for both
CHIRP is open source. You are welcome to take this on.
what is the meaning of the message read with power on+6?
It is a date. Your guess is as good as mine as to what it represents.
All you have to do is edit the "master' image for 1 radio and import it into the image of the other radios. I use the image from my 2012 UV-5R as my master image and import it into my BF-F8HP, UV-82, UV-82C, UV-82HP and Wouxun KG-UV6D.
Jim KC9HI
i wish i had the capability to program even less complicated missions!! that's why i would thank someone who can..
can you please be more specific about the step by step stages to create a master image, edit it and import it. thanks
2016-01-25 1:12 GMT+02:00 Jim Unroe rock.unroe@gmail.com:
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Amnon Zohar amnon.zohar@gmail.com wrote:
i have 2 baofeng radios 1 is UV-5RA the other is UV-5RA+ they look a little different, but basically they are the same both show 297 as firmware ver when put on with 3 pressed only when read with chirp i can see that 1 is really 307 and the other is 311!
Since BFB299, the [3] key + Power-on message is no longer the "real" firmware version.
i cannot upload to one radio what i downloaded from the other because firmware versions are different! therefore i have to program each one seperately! which is preaty
annoying!!
i do not see any differace in data formation! if i remember right it was not like that on previous versions of chirp
You can thank Baofeng for this.
when i use the radio to radio cloning cable it works well so it is weired that under chip it doesnt. did chirp programmers preferred giving us a hard time just to be on the
safe
side??
Radio to radio cloning does not dump the whole memory of one radio into the other. The memory layouts between versions are not the same. The latest firmware versions have removed the radio-to-radio cloning because of the main memory layout changes.
i will thank the one that will go through the trouble to check which firmware versions are actually compatible and allow uploading and which
are
not and do not allow it. i know it is easier to compare version numbers and decide. but i believe easy should be kept for the user not for the programmer. i really hope someone take the job. or at least tell me which older version of chip did not check the
firmware
version. or checked the wrong version field which shows 297 for both
CHIRP is open source. You are welcome to take this on.
what is the meaning of the message read with power on+6?
It is a date. Your guess is as good as mine as to what it represents.
All you have to do is edit the "master' image for 1 radio and import it into the image of the other radios. I use the image from my 2012 UV-5R as my master image and import it into my BF-F8HP, UV-82, UV-82C, UV-82HP and Wouxun KG-UV6D.
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does the improvement from uv-5r to the 8W versions justify the extra buck?
2016-01-25 2:22 GMT+02:00 Amnon Zohar amnon.zohar@gmail.com:
i wish i had the capability to program even less complicated missions!! that's why i would thank someone who can..
can you please be more specific about the step by step stages to create a master image, edit it and import it. thanks
2016-01-25 1:12 GMT+02:00 Jim Unroe rock.unroe@gmail.com:
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Amnon Zohar amnon.zohar@gmail.com wrote:
i have 2 baofeng radios 1 is UV-5RA the other is UV-5RA+ they look a little different, but basically they are the same both show 297 as firmware ver when put on with 3 pressed only when read with chirp i can see that 1 is really 307 and the other
is
311!
Since BFB299, the [3] key + Power-on message is no longer the "real" firmware version.
i cannot upload to one radio what i downloaded from the other because firmware versions are different! therefore i have to program each one seperately! which is preaty
annoying!!
i do not see any differace in data formation! if i remember right it was not like that on previous versions of chirp
You can thank Baofeng for this.
when i use the radio to radio cloning cable it works well so it is
weired
that under chip it doesnt. did chirp programmers preferred giving us a hard time just to be on the
safe
side??
Radio to radio cloning does not dump the whole memory of one radio into the other. The memory layouts between versions are not the same. The latest firmware versions have removed the radio-to-radio cloning because of the main memory layout changes.
i will thank the one that will go through the trouble to check which firmware versions are actually compatible and allow uploading and which
are
not and do not allow it. i know it is easier to compare version numbers and decide. but i believe easy should be kept for the user not for the programmer. i really hope someone take the job. or at least tell me which older version of chip did not check the
firmware
version. or checked the wrong version field which shows 297 for both
CHIRP is open source. You are welcome to take this on.
what is the meaning of the message read with power on+6?
It is a date. Your guess is as good as mine as to what it represents.
All you have to do is edit the "master' image for 1 radio and import it into the image of the other radios. I use the image from my 2012 UV-5R as my master image and import it into my BF-F8HP, UV-82, UV-82C, UV-82HP and Wouxun KG-UV6D.
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-- Amnon
Your master image is just your normal image. There is nothing different or special about it.
1. Download from radio 1 (or load a previously saved file from radio 1) 2. Edit the tab for radio 1 as needed 3. Save radio 1 tab to "radio1.img" 4. Close tab for radio 1 5. Download from radio 2 (or load a previously saved file from radio 2) 6. Click File 7. Click Import 8. Click button that says [CHIRP Files(*.chirp)] 9. Select "CHIRP Radio Images(*.img)" from the list 10. Locate and load "radio1.img" 11. Click the [OK] button
the radio 2 tab now has the channels from "radio1.img"
12. Upload radio 2 tab into radio 2
Now radio 2 has the same channels as radio 1
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