[chirp_users] Programming an old Motorola radio?
I have an old Motorola Syntor X-9000 lowland radio (6&10 meter) that uses the old dos version RSS for programming. Is there any chance that CHIRP could be setup to program it?
Thanks / Rob
Theoretically, yes it could be set up. I'm not the best programmer, but I'm working on getting a readout of my Ritron telemetry radios, (DTX-150/450) which also use DOS software to read/write them. After I get that done, I may be able to preliminarily add support for other radios that use the same software, depending on the results. Probably the best option is to submit a ticket offering equipment loan.
Rules for Equipment loans: http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Rules_For_Loaning_A_Radio
I did not see any Motorola radios on the list of open tickets for new radios to be supported.
Chris. KC8UFV
On 2013-05-21 23:48, Robert Lowery wrote:
I have an old Motorola Syntor X-9000 lowland radio (6&10 meter) that uses the old dos version RSS for programming. Is there any chance that CHIRP could be setup to program it?
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On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM, chris@engravedimage.com wrote:
I did not see any Motorola radios on the list of open tickets for new radios to be supported.
Chris. KC8UFV
There are a couple: http://chirp.danplanet.com/search/index/chirp?q=motorola
Personally I don't want to volunteer because I've heard the old Motorolas brick easily.
Tom KD7LXL
On 5/22/13 5:29 PM, Tom Hayward wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM, chris@engravedimage.com wrote:
I did not see any Motorola radios on the list of open tickets for new radios to be supported.
Chris. KC8UFV
There are a couple: http://chirp.danplanet.com/search/index/chirp?q=motorola
Personally I don't want to volunteer because I've heard the old Motorolas brick easily.
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Actually the HT-1000 IS a brick. But I have a lot of them and hope it gets in.
;B {W5VZB}
i was reading this and the x9000 should be a good radio be cause it can't (maybe shouldn't would be a better word?) be brick.
http://www.onfreq.com/syntorx/syntorx9k/progx9.html Programming Introduction:
You are on your own when it comes to Motorola RSS. Please see the http://www.batlabs.com/ site for more information. Please do not ask me for any Motorola RSS.
Syntor X 9000 standard programming setup requires Syntor X 9000 Radio Service Software (RSS), Syntor X 9000 programming T-cable (Motorola 01-80353A75 or aftermarket cable), Radio Interface Box (RIB) (Motorola RLN-4008B or aftermarket RIB), RIB to computer RS-232 cable, and an old slow IBM PC compatible computer that runs real DOS.
The good news is the Syntor X 9000 can not be turned into a useless door stop that only the Motorola factory can repair, if something goes wrong while the RSS writes to the radio. Unlike most other Motorola RSS, the conventional Syntor X 9000 RSS can program a radio from scratch without reading the radio or using a saved code plug. Please see the http://www.batlabs.com/ site for programing details and lower cost programming hardware alternatives.
On May 22, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Bear Albrecht ebear422@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/22/13 5:29 PM, Tom Hayward wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM, chris@engravedimage.com wrote:
I did not see any Motorola radios on the list of open tickets for new radios to be supported.
Chris. KC8UFV
There are a couple: http://chirp.danplanet.com/search/index/chirp?q=motorola
Personally I don't want to volunteer because I've heard the old Motorolas brick easily.
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Actually the HT-1000 IS a brick. But I have a lot of them and hope it gets in.
;B {W5VZB}
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Actually the PROM modules for the Syntor series self destruct sometime even with a factory programmer. I've been repairing the gear since its been around. You can send the proms and radio + head for programming to a few places around the country. Be prepared to align the radio after or pay to have it aligned. Personally it's not really worth it unless you got the radio for free and it works as is.
Sent from my 15.4" MacBook Pro, i7 quad core
On May 22, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Tom Hayward esarfl@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM, chris@engravedimage.com wrote:
I did not see any Motorola radios on the list of open tickets for new radios to be supported.
Chris. KC8UFV
There are a couple: http://chirp.danplanet.com/search/index/chirp?q=motorola
Personally I don't want to volunteer because I've heard the old Motorolas brick easily.
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it works, but the problem is where it was programmed before had different pl.'s from where i am at, So i am unable to access local repeaters. I didn't pay much and that was 15 years ago.
Rob
On May 22, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Phaeton phaeton@neo.rr.com wrote:
Actually the PROM modules for the Syntor series self destruct sometime even with a factory programmer. I've been repairing the gear since its been around. You can send the proms and radio + head for programming to a few places around the country. Be prepared to align the radio after or pay to have it aligned. Personally it's not really worth it unless you got the radio for free and it works as is.
Sent from my 15.4" MacBook Pro, i7 quad core
On May 22, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Tom Hayward esarfl@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM, chris@engravedimage.com wrote:
I did not see any Motorola radios on the list of open tickets for new radios to be supported.
Chris. KC8UFV
There are a couple: http://chirp.danplanet.com/search/index/chirp?q=motorola
Personally I don't want to volunteer because I've heard the old Motorolas brick easily.
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Well I can suggest doing a google search for programing your exact radio type. I've seen some you tube videos of the Syntor lowband on 6 meters. And if you use the right combo of search words you will eventually gather enough data to gather the right things and self program or find a place that will do it for you and align the radio. You could probably hit me off list if you need some extra help because this is getting off topic and these moderators get very picky. I'm surprised my comments are being allow to get posted. They never did like me too much but I hung around anyway.
Sent from my 15.4" MacBook Pro, i7 quad core
On May 22, 2013, at 7:46 PM, Robert Lowery lowery17331@me.com wrote:
it works, but the problem is where it was programmed before had different pl.'s from where i am at, So i am unable to access local repeaters. I didn't pay much and that was 15 years ago.
Rob
On May 22, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Phaeton phaeton@neo.rr.com wrote:
Actually the PROM modules for the Syntor series self destruct sometime even with a factory programmer. I've been repairing the gear since its been around. You can send the proms and radio + head for programming to a few places around the country. Be prepared to align the radio after or pay to have it aligned. Personally it's not really worth it unless you got the radio for free and it works as is.
Sent from my 15.4" MacBook Pro, i7 quad core
On May 22, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Tom Hayward esarfl@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM, chris@engravedimage.com wrote:
I did not see any Motorola radios on the list of open tickets for new radios to be supported.
Chris. KC8UFV
There are a couple: http://chirp.danplanet.com/search/index/chirp?q=motorola
Personally I don't want to volunteer because I've heard the old Motorolas brick easily.
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I've been meaning to try putting an Arduino board in place of the x2212 on a GE Phoenix. If I do it, I'll certainly add support to chirp. Minor hardware mods would be needed but it'd be worthwhile.
Same for delta sx and rangr..
Tom Morris, KG4CYX
Mad Scientist, Miami Children's Museum
This message sent from a mobile device. Silly typos provided free of charge. On May 22, 2013 7:42 PM, "Phaeton" phaeton@neo.rr.com wrote:
Actually the PROM modules for the Syntor series self destruct sometime even with a factory programmer. I've been repairing the gear since its been around. You can send the proms and radio + head for programming to a few places around the country. Be prepared to align the radio after or pay to have it aligned. Personally it's not really worth it unless you got the radio for free and it works as is.
*Sent from my 15.4" MacBook Pro, i7 quad core *
On May 22, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Tom Hayward esarfl@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM, chris@engravedimage.com wrote:
I did not see any Motorola radios on the list of open tickets for new radios to be supported.
Chris. KC8UFV
There are a couple: http://chirp.danplanet.com/search/index/chirp?q=motorola
Personally I don't want to volunteer because I've heard the old Motorolas brick easily.
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Do you think that could work in the x9000?
On May 22, 2013, at 10:44 PM, Tom Morris blueneon@gmail.com wrote:
I've been meaning to try putting an Arduino board in place of the x2212 on a GE Phoenix. If I do it, I'll certainly add support to chirp. Minor hardware mods would be needed but it'd be worthwhile.
Same for delta sx and rangr..
Tom Morris, KG4CYX
Mad Scientist, Miami Children's Museum
This message sent from a mobile device. Silly typos provided free of charge.
On May 22, 2013 7:42 PM, "Phaeton" phaeton@neo.rr.com wrote: Actually the PROM modules for the Syntor series self destruct sometime even with a factory programmer. I've been repairing the gear since its been around. You can send the proms and radio + head for programming to a few places around the country. Be prepared to align the radio after or pay to have it aligned. Personally it's not really worth it unless you got the radio for free and it works as is.
Sent from my 15.4" MacBook Pro, i7 quad core
On May 22, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Tom Hayward esarfl@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM, chris@engravedimage.com wrote:
I did not see any Motorola radios on the list of open tickets for new radios to be supported.
Chris. KC8UFV
There are a couple: http://chirp.danplanet.com/search/index/chirp?q=motorola
Personally I don't want to volunteer because I've heard the old Motorolas brick easily.
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Good question ... Some engineering of the reverse variety would be in order. Keep in mind that what the little Bitty ATMega can do now required a slough of chips back then..
Tom Morris, KG4CYX
Mad Scientist, Miami Children's Museum
This message sent from a mobile device. Silly typos provided free of charge. On May 22, 2013 10:48 PM, "Robert Lowery" lowery17331@me.com wrote:
Do you think that could work in the x9000?
On May 22, 2013, at 10:44 PM, Tom Morris blueneon@gmail.com wrote:
I've been meaning to try putting an Arduino board in place of the x2212 on a GE Phoenix. If I do it, I'll certainly add support to chirp. Minor hardware mods would be needed but it'd be worthwhile.
Same for delta sx and rangr..
Tom Morris, KG4CYX
Mad Scientist, Miami Children's Museum
This message sent from a mobile device. Silly typos provided free of charge. On May 22, 2013 7:42 PM, "Phaeton" phaeton@neo.rr.com wrote:
Actually the PROM modules for the Syntor series self destruct sometime even with a factory programmer. I've been repairing the gear since its been around. You can send the proms and radio + head for programming to a few places around the country. Be prepared to align the radio after or pay to have it aligned. Personally it's not really worth it unless you got the radio for free and it works as is.
*Sent from my 15.4" MacBook Pro, i7 quad core *
On May 22, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Tom Hayward esarfl@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM, chris@engravedimage.com wrote:
I did not see any Motorola radios on the list of open tickets for new radios to be supported.
Chris. KC8UFV
There are a couple: http://chirp.danplanet.com/search/index/chirp?q=motorola
Personally I don't want to volunteer because I've heard the old Motorolas brick easily.
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Hi,
Go to the site below to learn about Motorola programing. Nothing like programing modern day radios. Almost all of Motorola's software is specific to that series/model, and having the right version, and some of the older models require burning to ROM, and EPROMS. There are many different programing cables, again series/model specific, and then there is the RIB, Radio Interface Box, required for a lot of the programing. I have found that DOS is the only way and a slow processor.
KD8DEG Tom
-----Original Message----- From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Tom Hayward Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 7:30 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Programming an old Motorola radio?
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM, chris@engravedimage.com wrote:
I did not see any Motorola radios on the list of open tickets for new radios to be supported.
Chris. KC8UFV
There are a couple: http://chirp.danplanet.com/search/index/chirp?q=motorola
Personally I don't want to volunteer because I've heard the old Motorolas brick easily.
Tom KD7LXL _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
On 5/22/2013 5:56 PM, tomKD8DEG wrote:
Hi,
Go to the site below to learn about Motorola programing. Nothing like programing modern day radios. Almost all of Motorola's software is specific to that series/model, and having the right version, and some of the older models require burning to ROM, and EPROMS. There are many different programing cables, again series/model specific, and then there is the RIB, Radio Interface Box, required for a lot of the programing. I have found that DOS is the only way and a slow processor.
Yep, and I'd love to get away from the DOS requirement for my stable of HT-1000s
;B
In some ways, still better than having to grind crystals. I still need to get that done for a couple old motorolas I have lying around... On 2013-05-22 19:56, tomKD8DEG wrote:
Hi,
Go to the site below to learn about Motorola programing. Nothing like programing modern day radios. Almost all of Motorola's software is specific to that series/model, and having the right version, and some of the older models require burning to ROM, and EPROMS. There are many different programing cables, again series/model specific, and then there is the RIB, Radio Interface Box, required for a lot of the programing. I have found that DOS is the only way and a slow processor.
KD8DEG Tom
-----Original Message----- From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Tom Hayward Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 7:30 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Programming an old Motorola radio?
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM, chris@engravedimage.com wrote:
I did not see any Motorola radios on the list of open tickets for new radios to be supported.
Chris. KC8UFV
There are a couple: http://chirp.danplanet.com/search/index/chirp?q=motorola
Personally I don't want to volunteer because I've heard the old Motorolas brick easily.
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