OK, I was even more stumped!! Building and etc... I tried a couple of Chirp versions... The UV8D & UV8D plus are DIFFERENT radios. Took a bit of searching, but there is programming software on the Wouxom site! http://wouxun.com/download.aspx?flid=1093

Hope this helps someone else!! Would have saved a lot of work!! Let me know when Chirp Supports the radio... Yea, I will watch....

Will WC2L