[chirp_users] UV 5R use on Public Service VHF
My wife and I are both long time Hams and First Responders. We have permission to use radios on both county and city police and fire departments in a limited way. However we must provide our own radios. It reads like the UV 5R could possibly do this on VHF analog repeaters. I think their is more programming steps that must be done in order to make it possible. An example freq as xmitted by my county repeater is 155.655. There are several others. If someone could post step by step how to do this I would greatly appreciate it.
Whoa, I would be very careful attempting to use any radio that is NOT FCC TYPE CERTIFIED on any band whether you are a first responder or not. That, I believe is illegal to do.
73 de W3DRM – Don McRoberts
Carson Valley Weather: http://carsonvalleyweather.com/ http://carsonvalleyweather.com
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights Reserved
From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Sarge ex 7thAF Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:10 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: [chirp_users] UV 5R use on Public Service VHF
My wife and I are both long time Hams and First Responders. We have permission to use radios on both county and city police and fire departments in a limited way.
However we must provide our own radios. It reads like the UV 5R could possibly do this on VHF analog repeaters. I think their is more programming steps that must be done in order to make it possible. An example freq as xmitted by my county repeater is 155.655. There are several others.
If someone could post step by step how to do this I would greatly appreciate it.
UV5R is type certified part 90. This is perfectly fine for public service use under the public service in questions licence.
Trinity KF5YFD
On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Don McRoberts drmcroberts@charter.net wrote:
Whoa, I would be very careful attempting to use any radio that is NOT FCC TYPE CERTIFIED on any band whether you are a first responder or not. That, I believe is illegal to do.
*73 de W3DRM – Don McRoberts*
*Carson Valley Weather:* http://carsonvalleyweather.com
*The United States Constitution (c) 1791 http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html. All Rights Reserved*
*From:* chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] *On Behalf Of *Sarge ex 7thAF *Sent:* Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:10 PM *To:* Discussion of CHIRP *Subject:* [chirp_users] UV 5R use on Public Service VHF
My wife and I are both long time Hams and First Responders. We have permission to use radios on both county and city police and fire departments in a limited way.
However we must provide our own radios. It reads like the UV 5R could possibly do this on VHF analog repeaters. I think their is more programming steps that must be done in order to make it possible. An example freq as xmitted by my county repeater is 155.655. There are several others.
If someone could post step by step how to do this I would greatly appreciate it.
--
Sarge KE5YPB, Lickskillet, Texas "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
" Lets Roll " ---- Todd Beemer--- 9/11/01 --- American Hero
Are you going to take a stand to help America in 2016 ?
chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
If they make sure the radio is FCC Part 90 certificated and have something in writing showing authorization on the chosen freqs, maybe ok. This would not authorize use of any other freqs, including ham, without the proper license in place. Baofengs can not be used at all God transmitting without a ham license, business use FCC license or FCC public safety license. No GMRS, MURS, FRS, or CB (not that it can do CB anyway). Jardy Dawson WA7JRD Nobody really cares what device you are using, as long as YOU like it!
On Sep 20, 2015, at 19:15, Don McRoberts drmcroberts@charter.net wrote:
Whoa, I would be very careful attempting to use any radio that is NOT FCC TYPE CERTIFIED on any band whether you are a first responder or not. That, I believe is illegal to do.
73 de W3DRM – Don McRoberts Carson Valley Weather: http://carsonvalleyweather.com The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights Reserved
From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Sarge ex 7thAF Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:10 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: [chirp_users] UV 5R use on Public Service VHF
My wife and I are both long time Hams and First Responders. We have permission to use radios on both county and city police and fire departments in a limited way. However we must provide our own radios. It reads like the UV 5R could possibly do this on VHF analog repeaters. I think their is more programming steps that must be done in order to make it possible. An example freq as xmitted by my county repeater is 155.655. There are several others. If someone could post step by step how to do this I would greatly appreciate it. -- Sarge KE5YPB, Lickskillet, Texas "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." " Lets Roll " ---- Todd Beemer--- 9/11/01 --- American Hero Are you going to take a stand to help America in 2016 ?
chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
How about you authorizing us a grant to buy 2 motorolas ? We already supply our own money for the expenses of rehabbing ALL of our firefighters, police and emergency management people for 3.5 counties. All from 2 retired people. However I suspect you are going to notify the F.C.C. to come and get us.
On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Don McRoberts drmcroberts@charter.net wrote:
Whoa, I would be very careful attempting to use any radio that is NOT FCC TYPE CERTIFIED on any band whether you are a first responder or not. That, I believe is illegal to do.
*73 de W3DRM – Don McRoberts*
*Carson Valley Weather:* http://carsonvalleyweather.com
*The United States Constitution (c) 1791 http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html. All Rights Reserved*
*From:* chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] *On Behalf Of *Sarge ex 7thAF *Sent:* Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:10 PM *To:* Discussion of CHIRP *Subject:* [chirp_users] UV 5R use on Public Service VHF
My wife and I are both long time Hams and First Responders. We have permission to use radios on both county and city police and fire departments in a limited way.
However we must provide our own radios. It reads like the UV 5R could possibly do this on VHF analog repeaters. I think their is more programming steps that must be done in order to make it possible. An example freq as xmitted by my county repeater is 155.655. There are several others.
If someone could post step by step how to do this I would greatly appreciate it.
--
Sarge KE5YPB, Lickskillet, Texas "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
" Lets Roll " ---- Todd Beemer--- 9/11/01 --- American Hero
Are you going to take a stand to help America in 2016 ?
chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
Does the FCC actually care though?
Is there any actual harm you could cause by using a Type 90 radio on frequencies it isn't authorized for but which you have a license for?
God Bless, Kyle Johnston KyleJohnston.net http://kylejohnston.net/ Animis Opibusque Parati pro Soli Deo!
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Sarge ex 7thAF 0101.smd@gmail.com wrote:
How about you authorizing us a grant to buy 2 motorolas ? We already supply our own money for the expenses of rehabbing ALL of our firefighters, police and emergency management people for 3.5 counties. All from 2 retired people. However I suspect you are going to notify the F.C.C. to come and get us.
On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Don McRoberts drmcroberts@charter.net wrote:
Whoa, I would be very careful attempting to use any radio that is NOT FCC TYPE CERTIFIED on any band whether you are a first responder or not. That, I believe is illegal to do.
*73 de W3DRM – Don McRoberts*
*Carson Valley Weather:* http://carsonvalleyweather.com
*The United States Constitution (c) 1791 http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html. All Rights Reserved*
*From:* chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] *On Behalf Of *Sarge ex 7thAF *Sent:* Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:10 PM *To:* Discussion of CHIRP *Subject:* [chirp_users] UV 5R use on Public Service VHF
My wife and I are both long time Hams and First Responders. We have permission to use radios on both county and city police and fire departments in a limited way.
However we must provide our own radios. It reads like the UV 5R could possibly do this on VHF analog repeaters. I think their is more programming steps that must be done in order to make it possible. An example freq as xmitted by my county repeater is 155.655. There are several others.
If someone could post step by step how to do this I would greatly appreciate it.
--
Sarge KE5YPB, Lickskillet, Texas "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
" Lets Roll " ---- Todd Beemer--- 9/11/01 --- American Hero
Are you going to take a stand to help America in 2016 ?
chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
-- Sarge KE5YPB, Lickskillet, Texas "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." " Lets Roll " ---- Todd Beemer--- 9/11/01 --- American Hero Are you going to take a stand to help America in 2016 ?
chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
Www.miklor.com
Jardy Dawson WA7JRD Nobody really cares what device you are using, as long as YOU like it!
On Sep 20, 2015, at 19:09, Sarge ex 7thAF 0101.smd@gmail.com wrote:
My wife and I are both long time Hams and First Responders. We have permission to use radios on both county and city police and fire departments in a limited way. However we must provide our own radios. It reads like the UV 5R could possibly do this on VHF analog repeaters. I think their is more programming steps that must be done in order to make it possible. An example freq as xmitted by my county repeater is 155.655. There are several others. If someone could post step by step how to do this I would greatly appreciate it. -- Sarge KE5YPB, Lickskillet, Texas "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." " Lets Roll " ---- Todd Beemer--- 9/11/01 --- American Hero Are you going to take a stand to help America in 2016 ?
chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Sarge ex 7thAF 0101.smd@gmail.com wrote:
However we must provide our own radios. It reads like the UV 5R could possibly do this on VHF analog repeaters. I think their is more programming steps that must be done in order to make it possible. An example freq as xmitted by my county repeater is 155.655. There are several others. If someone could post step by step how to do this I would greatly appreciate it.
Everyone, please keep this thread on topic. Issues of legality can be satisfied by searching the FCC certification database and by reading the relevant parts of CFR Title 47. This mailing list should only be used for discussion of Chirp itself.
You can program odd-split repeaters with Chirp by setting the Duplex column to "split" and then typing the transmit frequency into the Offset column, as described here: http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/MemoryEditorColumns#Duplex
I'm going to refrain from the step-by-stop how-to. If you need this level of detail, I recommend you find a professional to program your radio. The stakes are high in the public safety band--an error in programming could interfere with a life-safety operation.
Tom KD7LXL
With the Sheriff's Auxiliary we use the Wouxun KG-UV6Ds for this purpose. For volunteers only authorized on Public Service, we preprogram and lock to meet Part 90 requirements. For those who are also HAM, we can unlock the VFO: they are our technical specialists who are responsible for field programming as needed, so, by my read, there is no licensing conflict. If the volunteer is also GMRS-licensed, we also give give them the image with GMRS-transmit enabled. All radios we issue have all area channels programmed for receive, and that includes the NIFOG public service channels (e.g. VTAC, MTAC, etc) which all responders may use for multi-agency response.
As far as how-to in CHIRP, we set up separate configurations for each purpose: NIFOG, regional interoperability, mutual aid, local LE, HAM calling channels, area HAM duplex/simplex, GMRS, MURS, NORA and receive-only versions of each of them. We then combine them into a small number of Wouxun images for the different licensing combinations. We can then use the same files to image (say) a HAM-only Yaesu with PS monitoring. Dividing into separate (version-controlled) files makes it easier to update images when one set of channels changes. I actually have an article I wrote on this with instructions. I can send a link when I am back to the desktop. Many of the CSV images can be shared. A few are LE sensitive and we don't distribute (people could find out the channels anyway, but we just don't want to make it easier and it makes the lawyers happy.)
participants (7)
-
Don McRoberts -
Eric Vought -
Jardy -
Kyle Johnston -
Sarge ex 7thAF -
Tom Hayward -
Trinity