Do I understand correctly that this feature applies to a few Yaesus, but exists in CHIRP for all radios to accommodate those few? I tried clicking after ctrl-x, and I see that the memory is active again, and this is on a download for a Kenwood F6A. OK as a backup, but not intuitive. It works on ctrl-x, where I can recover by following up with either clicking or by pasting (as long as no other actions overwrite the buffer), but does not work for deletion. I've been in a habit of thinking that cutting is more or less permanent, and I guess that it is here, too, but only after I write to the radio and complete the process. Whether the memory is grey or zeroed, I can always paste over it or edit it, so there is no loss of generality.

~R~ NE1EE

On 2016-05-25 21:45:-0700, Tom Hayward wrote:

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Rich Messeder rich.messeder@gmail.com wrote:

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But there is a comment below that reference data on the radio that is not accessible. This is puzzling to me. Does that mean that the data exists in the radio, but there is a flag also in the radio that says not to access that memory? Or recall it? Or tune to it? What is the point? Seems to me that if I delete a memory from the radio panel or from CHIRP, it ought to be gone. It's up to me to have a backup file if I want it...

Yes, in a few Yaesu radios, deleted (or "masked") channels are set with a flag. I believe the design goal by Yaesu here was to allow the opportunity to undo a delete. In addition to supporting this, Chirp also has the capability to write zeros over the whole block of memory. For these select few radios, Chirp supports both delete mechanisms in a two-stage delete (as described). The goal here was to make the Chirp support as many of the radios' features as possible, and for the experience to be as close to the radios' interface as possible.

When a channel is masked (the first stage of the two-stage delete on Yaesu radios), it can be unmasked from the front panel of the radio (see the manual) or in Chirp, just click the greyed-out text to resurrect it.

Tom KD7LXL