[chirp_users] Chirp and a blind interface
Tonight, eric oyen wrote: ===================== <snip> Now, there are a few radios that a blind user can program without the program (like the ken wood ?-D700 or any other radio with a speech interface. Unfortunately, most of the chinese radios only speak the top level menu items, leaving us blind hams to have to read the instructions multiple times and try to follow them and hope we get it right. I would certainly like a way to return the firmware to make this more possible (and dump the chinese language speaking interface while at it). Not sure this can be done, but it would be a worthy project to undertake. ====================
Unfortunately this isn't possible in CHIRP or any other consumer software. It would take rewriting the firmware (and in your case, changing the speech interface) to make the radio do what you want, and I doubt seriously there are many that have that ability.
Mike
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As a blind ham, I would be grateful if software designers would just create user interfaces that conform to Microsoft programming standards in order that screen-reader software could reliably access those user interfaces. As it is, we must find all kinds of work-arounds if we are able to use the software at all.
73 Bob AD8RJ
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Tonight, eric oyen wrote: ===================== <snip> Now, there are a few radios that a blind user can program without the program (like the ken wood ?-D700 or any other radio with a speech interface. Unfortunately, most of the chinese radios only speak the top level menu items, leaving us blind hams to have to read the instructions multiple times and try to follow them and hope we get it right. I would certainly like a way to return the firmware to make this more possible (and dump the chinese language speaking interface while at it). Not sure this can be done, but it would be a worthy project to undertake. ====================
Unfortunately this isn't possible in CHIRP or any other consumer software. It would take rewriting the firmware (and in your case, changing the speech interface) to make the radio do what you want, and I doubt seriously there are many that have that ability.
Mike
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tell me about it. Its not just the MS API we have to deal with. Its also the Apple API for voiceover. Frankly, if accessibility is designed in from the first, there wouldn't be so many issues like this.
Oh well, this is an open source project that doesn't charge, so making demands of the developers would result in a lot of heat and discontent. Still, it is a request, make this accessible using some of the features carried in python.
-eric n7zzt
On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Bob J. wrote:
As a blind ham, I would be grateful if software designers would just create user interfaces that conform to Microsoft programming standards in order that screen-reader software could reliably access those user interfaces. As it is, we must find all kinds of work-arounds if we are able to use the software at all.
73 Bob AD8RJ
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Agner" ka3jjz@comcast.net To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:06 PM Subject: [chirp_users] Chirp and a blind interface
Tonight, eric oyen wrote:
<snip> Now, there are a few radios that a blind user can program without the program (like the ken wood ?-D700 or any other radio with a speech interface. Unfortunately, most of the chinese radios only speak the top level menu items, leaving us blind hams to have to read the instructions multiple times and try to follow them and hope we get it right. I would certainly like a way to return the firmware to make this more possible (and dump the chinese language speaking interface while at it). Not sure this can be done, but it would be a worthy project to undertake. ====================
Unfortunately this isn't possible in CHIRP or any other consumer software. It would take rewriting the firmware (and in your case, changing the speech interface) to make the radio do what you want, and I doubt seriously there are many that have that ability.
Mike
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I agree accessibility should be one of the first things that operating system creators should do and it should have standards so that my file works with all operating systems.
Perhaps someone who is talented would step forward, or even if someone knows if there is a group that would take open source projects and enhance them with accessibility.
I use a screen reader at times when my eyes fail.
73
David N1EA
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:25 PM, eric oyen eric.oyen@gmail.com wrote:
tell me about it. Its not just the MS API we have to deal with. Its also the Apple API for voiceover. Frankly, if accessibility is designed in from the first, there wouldn't be so many issues like this.
Oh well, this is an open source project that doesn't charge, so making demands of the developers would result in a lot of heat and discontent. Still, it is a request, make this accessible using some of the features carried in python.
-eric n7zzt
On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Bob J. wrote:
As a blind ham, I would be grateful if software designers would just
create user interfaces that conform to Microsoft programming standards in order that screen-reader software could reliably access those user interfaces. As it is, we must find all kinds of work-arounds if we are able to use the software at all.
73 Bob AD8RJ
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Agner" ka3jjz@comcast.net To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:06 PM Subject: [chirp_users] Chirp and a blind interface
Tonight, eric oyen wrote:
<snip> Now, there are a few radios that a blind user can program without the program (like the ken wood ?-D700 or any other radio with a speech interface. Unfortunately, most of the chinese radios only speak the top level menu items, leaving us blind hams to have to read the instructions multiple times and try to follow them and hope we get it right. I would certainly like a way to return the firmware to make this more possible (and dump the chinese language speaking interface while at it). Not sure this can be done, but it would be a worthy project to undertake. ====================
Unfortunately this isn't possible in CHIRP or any other consumer software. It would take rewriting the firmware (and in your case, changing the speech interface) to make the radio do what you want, and I doubt seriously there are many that have that ability.
Mike
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