[chirp_users] Rs: setting up a uv-5ra via Chirp
Hi chirp_users. I am having trouble understanding Chirp. I have no problem programming my Baofeng UV-5RA HT direct from the ht's onboard keyboard. I don't understand some of the columns on the Chirp display after uploading the ht's memory. The memory in the ht should be clean after the factory reset. In the attached picture memory channels 1 to 10 are the way all of the memory channels are after the memory up load to Chirp after the ht factory reset. Now to the collumns, I know the column (tone) is for the tx ctcs and I assume that the (tonesql) is the rx ctcs. Why do the ctcs columns have 88.5hz in both columns. Those columns should be empty or 00.0 like in ch 11 in the attached picture. And what are the columns DTCS code,DTCS rx code DTCS pol. Why is there numbers and letters in the DTCS columns? Cross Mode I know, Duplex I know, offset I know, mode and power I know. Somewhere in Chirp is the setup to program the displays MDF (A) and MDF (B). I have seen a lot of chats saying it is there but no direct info to find it. I could use some help please.
The listing of the attachments is as following: (1) ht at factory reset.jpg (139.7 K)
Steve, kc7byp@gmail.com From the desk of the radio station KC7BYP 10/14/2019
Refer to the guides and examples at the bottom of www.Miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php
This may assist.
John K3NXU www.Miklor.com
From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 3:57 AM To: chirp_users Subject: [chirp_users] Rs: setting up a uv-5ra via Chirp
Hi chirp_users. I am having trouble understanding Chirp. I have no problem programming my Baofeng UV-5RA HT direct from the ht's onboard keyboard. I don't understand some of the columns on the Chirp display after uploading the ht's memory. The memory in the ht should be clean after the factory reset. In the attached picture memory channels 1 to 10 are the way all of the memory channels are after the memory up load to Chirp after the ht factory reset. Now to the collumns, I know the column (tone) is for the tx ctcs and I assume that the (tonesql) is the rx ctcs. Why do the ctcs columns have 88.5hz in both columns. Those columns should be empty or 00.0 like in ch 11 in the attached picture. And what are the columns DTCS code,DTCS rx code DTCS pol. Why is there numbers and letters in the DTCS columns? Cross Mode I know, Duplex I know, offset I know, mode and power I know. Somewhere in Chirp is the setup to program the displays MDF (A) and MDF (B). I have seen a lot of chats saying it is there but no direct info to find it. I could use some help please.
The listing of the attachments is as following:
(1) ht at factory reset.jpg (139.7 K)
Steve, mailto:kc7byp@gmail.com kc7byp@gmail.com
From the desk of the radio station KC7BYP
10/14/2019
Hi Steve,
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 3:59 AM Steve kc7byp@gmail.com wrote:
Hi chirp_users. I am having trouble understanding Chirp. I have no problem programming my Baofeng UV-5RA HT direct from the ht's onboard keyboard.
That is a good skill to have. I was afraid that it would be hard to do so it took me a while to finally decide to do it. I was surprised to find out, contrary to popular belief, that it is not a had thing to do.
I don't understand some of the columns on the Chirp display after uploading the ht's memory.
There are some CHIRP guides here that should help you out. http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php#guides
The memory in the ht should be clean after the factory reset.
Not so. First, menu 40 (RESET) is not a "factory" reset, . it is a "firmware" reset. Its use resets the radio to the default settings stored in the firmware which are different from how the radio was configured and received from the factory. For example, one of many menu settings that is obviously different after a RESET is menu 14 (VOICE). From the factory it is set to ENG (English). After a RESET it is set to CHI (Chinese). If you want English after a RESET, you will have to manually change it back.
The memories of these UV-5R style radios are not permitted to be "clean". The fewest number of programmed channels you can have is (1) one. You will never have more than 127 empty memories. Once the final programmed memory is erased, the radio reboots and programs channel 0 and channel 127 with the firmware default frequencies and settings. So when a menu 14 (RESET) is performed, the 128 memories are cleared as expected but then, the radio not allowing this will reboot and reprogram channels 0 and 127 back to their firmware defaults.
Try it. Reset the radio with menu 40. Then program a 3rd memory. Now erase memory 0 and memory 127 (in any order). And finally erase the memory that was manually programmed. Once you erase the last memory, the radio will reboot and memories 0 and 127 will be programmed again.
The only way to "factory" reset these radios is to have captured a CHIRP image from the radio immediately after attaching the battery and turning the radio on for the first time and then saving that tab, unedited, to a CHIRP Radio Images (*.img) file. Loading this saved image back to your radio is its "factory" reset.
In the attached picture memory channels 1 to 10 are the way all of the memory channels are after the memory up load to Chirp after the ht factory reset.
Except for memories 0 and 127. Since the "reset" erased all 128 of the radios memories, the radio reboots and programs channels 0 and 127 with the firmware default frequencies and settings.
Now to the collumns, I know the column (tone) is for the tx ctcs and I assume that the (tonesql) is the rx ctcs.
Not always. What a column does and when it is used depends on the Tone Mode and Cross Mode settings.
For example if Tone Mode is set to Tone, then the value in the Tone column _is_ used to set the TX CTCSS tone of the radio. The value in the ToneSql column is unused and ignored by CHIRP.
If Tone Mode is set to TSQL, then the value in the ToneSql column is used to set both the TX CTCSS tone and the RX CTCSS tone. The value in the Tone column is unused and ignored by CHIRP.
If Tone Mode is set to (None) or DTCS, the Tone and ToneSql fields are not used and the values in them are unused and ignored by CHIRP.
If Tone Mode is set to Cross, whether the Tone and ToneSql fields are used would depend on the value selected for Cross Mode.
Why do the ctcs columns have 88.5hz in both columns.
Because many of the fields of the CHIRP spreadsheet style memory editor will be populated with default values when they are not being used. The default values for the Tone and ToneSql fields happens to be 88.5.
Those columns should be empty or 00.0 like in ch 11 in the attached picture.
It doesn't matter if there are values in them. Theese memories are not programmed so the fields in those memory rows are not currently being used.
Normally the "Hide Unused Fields" setting under "View" in the menu bar would be enabled (it is the default for new CHIRP installations). With this setting enabled, fields that are unused based on how other fields are configured, would be blanked out. It would appear that you have inadvertently disabled this setting.
Regardless, if tone mode is set to (None) or TSQL, the value in the Tone field is ignored no matter if it is hidden or not.
And what are the columns DTCS code,DTCS rx code DTCS pol.
The are the fields that are used to configure Digital Tone Coded Squelch when the Tone Mode (and sometimes Cross Mode) settings are configured to use them. These would be the T-DCS and R-DCS settings for your radio.
Once again, look at the column guides. http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php#guides
Why is there numbers and letters in the DTCS columns?
They are the default values (023, 023 and NN respectively). They are currently unused and are being ignored by CHIRP. They are only being displayed because the "Hide Unused Fileds" setting has been disabled.
Cross Mode I know,
Based on the above, I respectfully don't think you do.
Duplex I know, offset I know, mode and power I know.
Probably not fully. If you set Duplex to "split", then the Offset field is set to the exact TX frequency. It makes it much easier to program a cross-band memory.
Somewhere in Chirp is the setup to program the displays MDF (A) and MDF (B). I have seen a lot of chats saying it is there but no direct info to find it. I could use some help please.
Settings -> Basic Settings -> Display Mode (A): (Channel | Name | Frequency) Settings -> Basic Settings -> Display Mode (B): (Channel | Name | Frequency)
The listing of the attachments is as following: (1) ht at factory reset.jpg (139.7 K)
Steve, kc7byp@gmail.com From the desk of the radio station KC7BYP 10/14/2019
You might also be interested in the detailed menu reference for your radio. http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_MenuDef.php
Good luck. Jim KC9HI
I'm not sure if Jim said this or not, but all fields need to contain data, even if not used. There is no 'zero' value for some of the fields.
Dennis M. Wage (W9BOQ)
245 Corum Hill Road Castalian Springs, TN 37031 (615) 310-4242 Cell (615) 562-5128 Home http://hammondb3organ.net http://overdubs.net
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 8:22 AM Jim Unroe rock.unroe@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Steve,
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 3:59 AM Steve kc7byp@gmail.com wrote:
Hi chirp_users. I am having trouble understanding Chirp. I have no
problem programming my Baofeng UV-5RA HT direct from the ht's onboard keyboard.
That is a good skill to have. I was afraid that it would be hard to do so it took me a while to finally decide to do it. I was surprised to find out, contrary to popular belief, that it is not a had thing to do.
I don't understand some of the columns on the Chirp display after
uploading the ht's memory.
There are some CHIRP guides here that should help you out. http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php#guides
The memory in the ht should be clean after the factory reset.
Not so. First, menu 40 (RESET) is not a "factory" reset, . it is a "firmware" reset. Its use resets the radio to the default settings stored in the firmware which are different from how the radio was configured and received from the factory. For example, one of many menu settings that is obviously different after a RESET is menu 14 (VOICE). From the factory it is set to ENG (English). After a RESET it is set to CHI (Chinese). If you want English after a RESET, you will have to manually change it back.
The memories of these UV-5R style radios are not permitted to be "clean". The fewest number of programmed channels you can have is (1) one. You will never have more than 127 empty memories. Once the final programmed memory is erased, the radio reboots and programs channel 0 and channel 127 with the firmware default frequencies and settings. So when a menu 14 (RESET) is performed, the 128 memories are cleared as expected but then, the radio not allowing this will reboot and reprogram channels 0 and 127 back to their firmware defaults.
Try it. Reset the radio with menu 40. Then program a 3rd memory. Now erase memory 0 and memory 127 (in any order). And finally erase the memory that was manually programmed. Once you erase the last memory, the radio will reboot and memories 0 and 127 will be programmed again.
The only way to "factory" reset these radios is to have captured a CHIRP image from the radio immediately after attaching the battery and turning the radio on for the first time and then saving that tab, unedited, to a CHIRP Radio Images (*.img) file. Loading this saved image back to your radio is its "factory" reset.
In the attached picture memory channels 1 to 10 are the way all of the
memory channels are after the memory up load to Chirp after the ht factory reset.
Except for memories 0 and 127. Since the "reset" erased all 128 of the radios memories, the radio reboots and programs channels 0 and 127 with the firmware default frequencies and settings.
Now to the collumns, I know the column (tone) is for the tx ctcs and I
assume that the (tonesql) is the rx ctcs.
Not always. What a column does and when it is used depends on the Tone Mode and Cross Mode settings.
For example if Tone Mode is set to Tone, then the value in the Tone column _is_ used to set the TX CTCSS tone of the radio. The value in the ToneSql column is unused and ignored by CHIRP.
If Tone Mode is set to TSQL, then the value in the ToneSql column is used to set both the TX CTCSS tone and the RX CTCSS tone. The value in the Tone column is unused and ignored by CHIRP.
If Tone Mode is set to (None) or DTCS, the Tone and ToneSql fields are not used and the values in them are unused and ignored by CHIRP.
If Tone Mode is set to Cross, whether the Tone and ToneSql fields are used would depend on the value selected for Cross Mode.
Why do the ctcs columns have 88.5hz in both columns.
Because many of the fields of the CHIRP spreadsheet style memory editor will be populated with default values when they are not being used. The default values for the Tone and ToneSql fields happens to be 88.5.
Those columns should be empty or 00.0 like in ch 11 in the attached
picture.
It doesn't matter if there are values in them. Theese memories are not programmed so the fields in those memory rows are not currently being used.
Normally the "Hide Unused Fields" setting under "View" in the menu bar would be enabled (it is the default for new CHIRP installations). With this setting enabled, fields that are unused based on how other fields are configured, would be blanked out. It would appear that you have inadvertently disabled this setting.
Regardless, if tone mode is set to (None) or TSQL, the value in the Tone field is ignored no matter if it is hidden or not.
And what are the columns DTCS code,DTCS rx code DTCS pol.
The are the fields that are used to configure Digital Tone Coded Squelch when the Tone Mode (and sometimes Cross Mode) settings are configured to use them. These would be the T-DCS and R-DCS settings for your radio.
Once again, look at the column guides. http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php#guides
Why is there numbers and letters in the DTCS columns?
They are the default values (023, 023 and NN respectively). They are currently unused and are being ignored by CHIRP. They are only being displayed because the "Hide Unused Fileds" setting has been disabled.
Cross Mode I know,
Based on the above, I respectfully don't think you do.
Duplex I know, offset I know, mode and power I know.
Probably not fully. If you set Duplex to "split", then the Offset field is set to the exact TX frequency. It makes it much easier to program a cross-band memory.
Somewhere in Chirp is the setup to program the displays MDF (A) and MDF
(B). I have seen a lot of chats saying it is there but no direct info to find it. I could use some help please.
Settings -> Basic Settings -> Display Mode (A): (Channel | Name | Frequency) Settings -> Basic Settings -> Display Mode (B): (Channel | Name | Frequency)
The listing of the attachments is as following: (1) ht at factory reset.jpg (139.7 K)
Steve, kc7byp@gmail.com From the desk of the radio station KC7BYP 10/14/2019
You might also be interested in the detailed menu reference for your radio. http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_MenuDef.php
Good luck. Jim KC9HI _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Dennis Wage at dwage@dwage.com To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
Hi Jim. Thanks for all of that info. I have never programmed any ht or any other radio via a pc software and interface cable before. You made things a lot more clear to me. The Baofeng ht is my 1st one. The only part about getting the Baofeng back to the way it was before the #40 reset was hit accidentally. By the way I think the #40 should have have some extra layer, like (do you really want to do this) or something. is re-setting up the (B) lower display. The (B) display was set with the words showing "FRS1" (and the little memory ch number to the right) and the frequency of 462.5625 in that memory ch and the next memory ch was FRS2 and the frequency for FRS2 and on up to FRS22. I don't know how to set this up. I have a group of friends (none are ham operators) when we go hunting I have a bunch of FRS ht's. I let them use the FRS ht's and I carry the Baofeng ht. The Baofeng does FRS frequencies. The setup worked very well. I need to know how to get the (B) display back the way it was.
Steve, kc7byp@gmail.com From the desk of the radio station KC7BYP 10/15/2019 ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Jim Unroe Receiver: Discussion of CHIRP Time: 2019-10-15, 06:20:25 Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Rs: setting up a uv-5ra via Chirp
Hi Steve,
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 3:59 AM Steve kc7byp@gmail.com wrote:
Hi chirp_users. I am having trouble understanding Chirp. I have no problem programming my Baofeng UV-5RA HT direct from the ht's onboard keyboard.
That is a good skill to have. I was afraid that it would be hard to do so it took me a while to finally decide to do it. I was surprised to find out, contrary to popular belief, that it is not a had thing to do.
I don't understand some of the columns on the Chirp display after uploading the ht's memory.
There are some CHIRP guides here that should help you out. http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php#guides
The memory in the ht should be clean after the factory reset.
Not so. First, menu 40 (RESET) is not a "factory" reset, . it is a "firmware" reset. Its use resets the radio to the default settings stored in the firmware which are different from how the radio was configured and received from the factory. For example, one of many menu settings that is obviously different after a RESET is menu 14 (VOICE). From the factory it is set to ENG (English). After a RESET it is set to CHI (Chinese). If you want English after a RESET, you will have to manually change it back.
The memories of these UV-5R style radios are not permitted to be "clean". The fewest number of programmed channels you can have is (1) one. You will never have more than 127 empty memories. Once the final programmed memory is erased, the radio reboots and programs channel 0 and channel 127 with the firmware default frequencies and settings. So when a menu 14 (RESET) is performed, the 128 memories are cleared as expected but then, the radio not allowing this will reboot and reprogram channels 0 and 127 back to their firmware defaults.
Try it. Reset the radio with menu 40. Then program a 3rd memory. Now erase memory 0 and memory 127 (in any order). And finally erase the memory that was manually programmed. Once you erase the last memory, the radio will reboot and memories 0 and 127 will be programmed again.
The only way to "factory" reset these radios is to have captured a CHIRP image from the radio immediately after attaching the battery and turning the radio on for the first time and then saving that tab, unedited, to a CHIRP Radio Images (*.img) file. Loading this saved image back to your radio is its "factory" reset.
In the attached picture memory channels 1 to 10 are the way all of the memory channels are after the memory up load to Chirp after the ht factory reset.
Except for memories 0 and 127. Since the "reset" erased all 128 of the radios memories, the radio reboots and programs channels 0 and 127 with the firmware default frequencies and settings.
Now to the collumns, I know the column (tone) is for the tx ctcs and I assume that the (tonesql) is the rx ctcs.
Not always. What a column does and when it is used depends on the Tone Mode and Cross Mode settings.
For example if Tone Mode is set to Tone, then the value in the Tone column _is_ used to set the TX CTCSS tone of the radio. The value in the ToneSql column is unused and ignored by CHIRP.
If Tone Mode is set to TSQL, then the value in the ToneSql column is used to set both the TX CTCSS tone and the RX CTCSS tone. The value in the Tone column is unused and ignored by CHIRP.
If Tone Mode is set to (None) or DTCS, the Tone and ToneSql fields are not used and the values in them are unused and ignored by CHIRP.
If Tone Mode is set to Cross, whether the Tone and ToneSql fields are used would depend on the value selected for Cross Mode.
Why do the ctcs columns have 88.5hz in both columns.
Because many of the fields of the CHIRP spreadsheet style memory editor will be populated with default values when they are not being used. The default values for the Tone and ToneSql fields happens to be 88.5.
Those columns should be empty or 00.0 like in ch 11 in the attached picture.
It doesn't matter if there are values in them. Theese memories are not programmed so the fields in those memory rows are not currently being used.
Normally the "Hide Unused Fields" setting under "View" in the menu bar would be enabled (it is the default for new CHIRP installations). With this setting enabled, fields that are unused based on how other fields are configured, would be blanked out. It would appear that you have inadvertently disabled this setting.
Regardless, if tone mode is set to (None) or TSQL, the value in the Tone field is ignored no matter if it is hidden or not.
And what are the columns DTCS code,DTCS rx code DTCS pol.
The are the fields that are used to configure Digital Tone Coded Squelch when the Tone Mode (and sometimes Cross Mode) settings are configured to use them. These would be the T-DCS and R-DCS settings for your radio.
Once again, look at the column guides. http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php#guides
Why is there numbers and letters in the DTCS columns?
They are the default values (023, 023 and NN respectively). They are currently unused and are being ignored by CHIRP. They are only being displayed because the "Hide Unused Fileds" setting has been disabled.
Cross Mode I know,
Based on the above, I respectfully don't think you do.
Duplex I know, offset I know, mode and power I know.
Probably not fully. If you set Duplex to "split", then the Offset field is set to the exact TX frequency. It makes it much easier to program a cross-band memory.
Somewhere in Chirp is the setup to program the displays MDF (A) and MDF (B). I have seen a lot of chats saying it is there but no direct info to find it. I could use some help please.
Settings -> Basic Settings -> Display Mode (A): (Channel | Name | Frequency) Settings -> Basic Settings -> Display Mode (B): (Channel | Name | Frequency)
The listing of the attachments is as following: (1) ht at factory reset.jpg (139.7 K)
Steve, kc7byp@gmail.com From the desk of the radio station KC7BYP 10/14/2019
You might also be interested in the detailed menu reference for your radio. http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_MenuDef.php
Good luck. Jim KC9HI _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Steve-kc7byp at kc7byp@gmail.com To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
Hi Steve,
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:13 PM Steve kc7byp@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Jim. Thanks for all of that info. I have never programmed any ht or any other radio via a pc software and interface cable before. You made things a lot more clear to me.
Helping others out is what this mailing list is for and why many of us monitor it. I'm glad my reply was useful.
The Baofeng ht is my 1st one. The only part about getting the Baofeng back to the way it was before the #40 reset was hit accidentally. By the way I think the #40 should have have some extra layer, like (do you really want to do this) or something.
It sort of does. You have to press [MENU] twice to make it "reset".
[MENU][4][0][MENU][MENU]
The first press of [MENU] allows you to choose which part of the radio you want to "reset", ALL or VFO. The second press of [MENU] resets the chosen part of the radio. You can bail out by pressing the [EXIT] key at any time prior to the 3rd press of [MENU]. So it really isn't something that can be done by "accident".
is re-setting up the (B) lower display. The (B) display was set with the words showing "FRS1" (and the little memory ch number to the right) and the frequency of 462.5625 in that memory ch and the next memory ch was FRS2 and the frequency for FRS2 and on up to FRS22. I don't know how to set this up. I have a group of friends (none are ham operators) when we go hunting I have a bunch of FRS ht's. I let them use the FRS ht's and I carry the Baofeng ht. The Baofeng does FRS frequencies. The setup worked very well. I need to know how to get the (B) display back the way it was.
When in MR (channel) mode, you can change the Memory Display Format (MDF) at any time to whichever format you want. Most user like to have one display line formatted to show NAME and the other display line formatted to show FREQ. But some like to see them both set to NAME.
You can use menu 21 (MDF-A) and/or menu 22 (MDF-B) to set either MDF that way you each display line formatted. The choices are CHAN, NAME and FREQ.
As I explained in my earlier reply, you can also set each display line's MDF using CHIRP .
Settings -> Basic Settings -> Display Mode (A): (Channel | Name | Frequency) Settings -> Basic Settings -> Display Mode (B): (Channel | Name | Frequency)
If you set your MDF-A and MDF-B up using the radio's menus and want them to stay that way, don't forget to download the changes to CHIRP and save them. Otherwise the next time you upload changes from your saved CHIRP Radio Images (*.img) file, they will be set back to the way CHIRP has them stored in the above mentioned settings.
Steve, kc7byp@gmail.com From the desk of the radio station KC7BYP 10/15/2019
Jim KC9HI
Hi Jim. I got a purdy good idea now how to setup the (B) display. 1 point that still confuse me. It saids in the manual, menu #21 and #22 that the wording, example "FRS1" in the (B) display. The name in the display can only be edited via Chirp.
Jim said. When in MR (channel) mode, you can change the Memory Display Format (MDF) at any time to whichever format you want. Most user like to have one display line formatted to show NAME and the other display line formatted to show FREQ. But some like to see them both set to NAME.
You can use menu 21 (MDF-A) and/or menu 22 (MDF-B) to set either MDF that way you each display line formatted. The choices are CHAN, NAME and FREQ.
As I explained in my earlier reply, you can also set each display line's MDF using CHIRP .
Settings -> Basic Settings -> Display Mode (A): (Channel | Name | Frequency) Settings -> Basic Settings -> Display Mode (B): (Channel | Name | Frequency)
If you set your MDF-A and MDF-B up using the radio's menus and want them to stay that way, don't forget to download the changes to CHIRP and save them. Otherwise the next time you upload changes from your saved CHIRP Radio Images (*.img) file, they will be set back to the way CHIRP has them stored in the above mentioned settings.
Steve, kc7byp@gmail.com From the desk of the radio station KC7BYP 10/15/2019
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 2:56 PM Steve kc7byp@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Jim. I got a purdy good idea now how to setup the (B) display. 1 point that still confuse me. It saids in the manual, menu #21 and #22 that the wording, example "FRS1" in the (B) display. The name in the display can only be edited via Chirp.
Jim said. When in MR (channel) mode, you can change the Memory Display Format (MDF) at any time to whichever format you want. Most user like to have one display line formatted to show NAME and the other display line formatted to show FREQ. But some like to see them both set to NAME.
You can use menu 21 (MDF-A) and/or menu 22 (MDF-B) to set either MDF that way you each display line formatted. The choices are CHAN, NAME and FREQ.
As I explained in my earlier reply, you can also set each display line's MDF using CHIRP .
Settings -> Basic Settings -> Display Mode (A): (Channel | Name | Frequency) Settings -> Basic Settings -> Display Mode (B): (Channel | Name | Frequency)
If you set your MDF-A and MDF-B up using the radio's menus and want them to stay that way, don't forget to download the changes to CHIRP and save them. Otherwise the next time you upload changes from your saved CHIRP Radio Images (*.img) file, they will be set back to the way CHIRP has them stored in the above mentioned settings.
Correct.
The Memory Display Format allows the user to choose what type of information is displayed in each display line. It can display...
1. the currently selected CHANnel number ("CH-nnn" where "nnn" is the selected channel number) 2. the NAME (consisting of alpha text, numbers and some special characters) of the currently selected channel. 3. the programmed RX frequency (and the TX frequency when the [PTT] button is pressed) of the currently selected channel.
The alpha text, numbers and some special characters that make a memory's NAME can only be added or edited using programming software (CHIRP, Baofeng CPS and VIP, RT Systems, etc.). If you set NAME as the Memory Display Format of a display line and the selected memory has a blank/empty name (as it would be if you programmed it from the keypad), then the selected channel number ("nnn" where "nnn" is the selected channel number) is displayed in place of the missing "name".
So to say it another way...
Programming software is used to add/edit the name of a memory.
The Memory Display Format menus are used to determine if the memory's programmed name is displayed or not.
Steve, kc7byp@gmail.com From the desk of the radio station KC7BYP 10/15/2019
Jim KC9HI
Thanks Jim for this great knowledge dump. I've added added a browser bookmark for the list archive entry, here:
http://intrepid.danplanet.com/pipermail/chirp_users/2019-October/015804.html
Question to Dan: Can the list archive URL be added to the footer on these messages?
http://intrepid.danplanet.com/pipermail/chirp_users/
On 10/15/2019 6:20 AM, Jim Unroe wrote:
Hi Steve,
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 3:59 AM Steve kc7byp@gmail.com wrote:
Hi chirp_users. I am having trouble understanding Chirp. I have no problem programming my Baofeng UV-5RA HT direct from the ht's onboard keyboard.
That is a good skill to have. I was afraid that it would be hard to do so it took me a while to finally decide to do it. I was surprised to find out, contrary to popular belief, that it is not a had thing to do.
I don't understand some of the columns on the Chirp display after uploading the ht's memory.
There are some CHIRP guides here that should help you out. http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php#guides
The memory in the ht should be clean after the factory reset.
Not so. First, menu 40 (RESET) is not a "factory" reset, . it is a "firmware" reset. Its use resets the radio to the default settings stored in the firmware which are different from how the radio was configured and received from the factory. For example, one of many menu settings that is obviously different after a RESET is menu 14 (VOICE). From the factory it is set to ENG (English). After a RESET it is set to CHI (Chinese). If you want English after a RESET, you will have to manually change it back.
The memories of these UV-5R style radios are not permitted to be "clean". The fewest number of programmed channels you can have is (1) one. You will never have more than 127 empty memories. Once the final programmed memory is erased, the radio reboots and programs channel 0 and channel 127 with the firmware default frequencies and settings. So when a menu 14 (RESET) is performed, the 128 memories are cleared as expected but then, the radio not allowing this will reboot and reprogram channels 0 and 127 back to their firmware defaults.
Try it. Reset the radio with menu 40. Then program a 3rd memory. Now erase memory 0 and memory 127 (in any order). And finally erase the memory that was manually programmed. Once you erase the last memory, the radio will reboot and memories 0 and 127 will be programmed again.
The only way to "factory" reset these radios is to have captured a CHIRP image from the radio immediately after attaching the battery and turning the radio on for the first time and then saving that tab, unedited, to a CHIRP Radio Images (*.img) file. Loading this saved image back to your radio is its "factory" reset.
In the attached picture memory channels 1 to 10 are the way all of the memory channels are after the memory up load to Chirp after the ht factory reset.
Except for memories 0 and 127. Since the "reset" erased all 128 of the radios memories, the radio reboots and programs channels 0 and 127 with the firmware default frequencies and settings.
Now to the collumns, I know the column (tone) is for the tx ctcs and I assume that the (tonesql) is the rx ctcs.
Not always. What a column does and when it is used depends on the Tone Mode and Cross Mode settings.
For example if Tone Mode is set to Tone, then the value in the Tone column _is_ used to set the TX CTCSS tone of the radio. The value in the ToneSql column is unused and ignored by CHIRP.
If Tone Mode is set to TSQL, then the value in the ToneSql column is used to set both the TX CTCSS tone and the RX CTCSS tone. The value in the Tone column is unused and ignored by CHIRP.
If Tone Mode is set to (None) or DTCS, the Tone and ToneSql fields are not used and the values in them are unused and ignored by CHIRP.
If Tone Mode is set to Cross, whether the Tone and ToneSql fields are used would depend on the value selected for Cross Mode.
Why do the ctcs columns have 88.5hz in both columns.
Because many of the fields of the CHIRP spreadsheet style memory editor will be populated with default values when they are not being used. The default values for the Tone and ToneSql fields happens to be 88.5.
Those columns should be empty or 00.0 like in ch 11 in the attached picture.
It doesn't matter if there are values in them. Theese memories are not programmed so the fields in those memory rows are not currently being used.
Normally the "Hide Unused Fields" setting under "View" in the menu bar would be enabled (it is the default for new CHIRP installations). With this setting enabled, fields that are unused based on how other fields are configured, would be blanked out. It would appear that you have inadvertently disabled this setting.
Regardless, if tone mode is set to (None) or TSQL, the value in the Tone field is ignored no matter if it is hidden or not.
And what are the columns DTCS code,DTCS rx code DTCS pol.
The are the fields that are used to configure Digital Tone Coded Squelch when the Tone Mode (and sometimes Cross Mode) settings are configured to use them. These would be the T-DCS and R-DCS settings for your radio.
Once again, look at the column guides. http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php#guides
Why is there numbers and letters in the DTCS columns?
They are the default values (023, 023 and NN respectively). They are currently unused and are being ignored by CHIRP. They are only being displayed because the "Hide Unused Fileds" setting has been disabled.
Cross Mode I know,
Based on the above, I respectfully don't think you do.
Duplex I know, offset I know, mode and power I know.
Probably not fully. If you set Duplex to "split", then the Offset field is set to the exact TX frequency. It makes it much easier to program a cross-band memory.
Somewhere in Chirp is the setup to program the displays MDF (A) and MDF (B). I have seen a lot of chats saying it is there but no direct info to find it. I could use some help please.
Settings -> Basic Settings -> Display Mode (A): (Channel | Name | Frequency) Settings -> Basic Settings -> Display Mode (B): (Channel | Name | Frequency)
The listing of the attachments is as following: (1) ht at factory reset.jpg (139.7 K)
Steve, kc7byp@gmail.com From the desk of the radio station KC7BYP 10/14/2019
You might also be interested in the detailed menu reference for your radio. http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_MenuDef.php
Good luck. Jim KC9HI _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Peter KM6WXN at ptlambert@sbcglobal.net To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
Hi Jim. With the help of your instructions I now have the Baofeng UV-5RA ht and Chirp 99.99% figured out. I have been able to reconstruct the layout that was in the ht before the #40 reset was hit. I still have more entries to do. But the primary test worked like a champ. I did all the entries from Chirp and the ht works 100% after uploading from Chirp to the ht. The only problem I have is after up loading from Chirp to the ht I have to manually reset #21 to frequency and #22 to name. Other then that everything will be back to the way it was after I finsh finding all the entries that where in the ht.
Steve, kc7byp@gmail.com From the desk of the radio station KC7BYP 10/15/2019
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 2:12 AM Steve kc7byp@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Jim. With the help of your instructions I now have the Baofeng UV-5RA ht and Chirp 99.99% figured out. I have been able to reconstruct the layout that was in the ht before the #40 reset was hit. I still have more entries to do. But the primary test worked like a champ. I did all the entries from Chirp and the ht works 100% after uploading from Chirp to the ht. The only problem I have is after up loading from Chirp to the ht I have to manually reset #21 to frequency and #22 to name. Other then that everything will be back to the way it was after I finsh finding all the entries that where in the ht.
Steve, kc7byp@gmail.com From the desk of the radio station KC7BYP 10/15/2019
Steve,
As I mentioned earlier, either download from the radio to CHIRP again to capture the changes to menu 21 (MDF-A) and menu 22 (MDF-B). From within CHIRP you can perform the following steps to make the changes or to validate that changes made in the radio are now in CHIRP...
1 click the Settings tab on the left side of the CHIRP window 2 click the Basic Settings tab (which should already be selected by default) that should have appeared from step 1 3 the "Display Mode (A):" setting should be set to Frequency 4 the "Display Mode (B):" setting should be set to Name
In either case you should save the updated tab to a CHIRP Radio Images (*.img) file so these changes will be stored within the saved image.
Jim KC9HI
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