[chirp_users] CHIRP on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and WINE
Ubuntu 20.04 LTS will be released in a few days. I installed the beta version of Xubuntu to see how it works.
Ubuntu has dropped Python 3 and the old repo version of CHIRP. The chirp-daily Linux tarball will no longer run locally because of Python 2 no longer being available. A lot of people using CHIRP on Linux are not going to be happy.
I installed the Windows version of chirp-daily on WINE 5.0 and it appears to work but the GUI theme looks terrible and the memory editor column order isn't saved if I rearrange the columns.
Are there any other Windows DLLs or components that should be installed with winetricks to improve CHIRP's appearance or functionality when running it under WINE?
Tom ND5Y
On 2020-04-20 15:57, Tom Consodine via chirp_users wrote:
Ubuntu 20.04 LTS will be released in a few days. I installed the beta version of Xubuntu to see how it works.
Ubuntu has dropped Python 3 and the old repo version of CHIRP.
(Guessing you meant Python 2 as the dropped version, there.)
I've never been particularly satisfied running anything under Wine. Have you considered re-installing Python 2? The other route I've gone to allow some apps that I need is to get the free VM from VmWare and a Win-10 disk off of eBag for $25.
Benton 20apr20 -- NX7O benton@siletzbay.com
Nobody's forcing you to "update" to 20.04, especially as there's nothing wrong with the LTS version and 20.04 doesn't do what you need. Just revert back to the previous version.
On 20 April 2020 at 18:57 Tom Consodine via chirp_users chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com wrote:
Ubuntu 20.04 LTS will be released in a few days. I installed the beta version of Xubuntu to see how it works.
Ubuntu has dropped Python 3 and the old repo version of CHIRP. The chirp-daily Linux tarball will no longer run locally because of Python 2 no longer being available. A lot of people using CHIRP on Linux are not going to be happy.
I installed the Windows version of chirp-daily on WINE 5.0 and it appears to work but the GUI theme looks terrible and the memory editor column order isn't saved if I rearrange the columns.
Are there any other Windows DLLs or components that should be installed with winetricks to improve CHIRP's appearance or functionality when running it under WINE?
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Sorry, That was a typo. Python 2 is discontinued.
I read something about Fedora dropping Python 2 also. Is CHIRP dead now as far as Linux development?
Tom ND5Y
No. Python 2.7 is still under active development. You might just need to install it if your distro vendor doesn't. It's here: https://www.python.org/downloads/
On 20 April 2020 at 19:50 Tom Consodine via chirp_users chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com wrote:
Sorry, That was a typo. Python 2 is discontinued.
I read something about Fedora dropping Python 2 also. Is CHIRP dead now as far as Linux development?
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If it's under development then why does it say this? 2.7 Maintenance status end-of-life First released 2010-07-03 End of support 2020-01-01
Tom ND5Y
On 4/20/20 7:18 PM, Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
No. Python 2.7 is still under active development. You might just need to install it if your distro vendor doesn't. It's here: https://www.python.org/downloads/
I will let the more seasoned devs chime in but chirp isn't dead! Only Python2 :( Chirp is cross platform so the same code works on Linux, Mac and Windows. I know Dan was working on deprecating PyGtk in favor of WxWidgets and there are at least 2 active contributions that I know of (1 driver improvement and 1 new driver) maybe more I'm not aware of.
I believe that Dan's WxWidgets work is the prelude to getting Chirp fully supported on python 3 support, but I don't know all of the ins-and-outs of the code base.
Tony
On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 19:46 -0500, Tom Consodine via chirp_users wrote:
If it's under development then why does it say this? 2.7 Maintenance status end-of-life First released 2010-07-03 End of support 2020-01-01
Tom ND5Y
On 4/20/20 7:18 PM, Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
No. Python 2.7 is still under active development. You might just need to install it if your distro vendor doesn't. It's here: https://www.python.org/downloads/
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It's listed under Active Python Releases and the latest version 2.7.18 was released April 20th 2020. That makes it still current and supported.
On 20 April 2020 at 20:46 Tom Consodine nd5y@yahoo.com wrote:
If it's under development then why does it say this? 2.7 Maintenance status end-of-life First released 2010-07-03 End of support 2020-01-01
Tom ND5Y
On 4/20/20 7:18 PM, Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
No. Python 2.7 is still under active development. You might just need to install it if your distro vendor doesn't. It's here: https://www.python.org/downloads/
Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net
Remember Python is open-source. Although the primary development team has moved on to focus on Python 3, other developers who continue to maintain and support Python 2 because of the many apps that require the older version.
Larry AC8YE
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:09 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF nigel@ngunn.net wrote:
It's listed under Active Python Releases and the latest version 2.7.18 was released April 20th 2020. That makes it still current and supported.
On 20 April 2020 at 20:46 Tom Consodine nd5y@yahoo.com wrote:
If it's under development then why does it say this? 2.7 Maintenance status end-of-life First released 2010-07-03 End of support 2020-01-01
Tom ND5Y
On 4/20/20 7:18 PM, Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
No. Python 2.7 is still under active development. You might just need
to install it if your distro vendor doesn't.
It's here: https://www.python.org/downloads/
Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to larry.howell.47@gmail.com at larry.howell.47@gmail.com To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
But it's not unfortunately. 2.7.18 was just a re-release of 2.7.16 from 4 Mar 2019. 2.7.18's only purpose was to share the first few numbers from Euler's constant. (silly programmers)
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/thread/OFCIETIXL...
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/python/cpython/v2.7.18/Misc/NEWS.d/2.7.18....
Tony ________________________________ From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com on behalf of Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF nigel@ngunn.net Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 9:09:34 PM To: Tom Consodine nd5y@yahoo.com Cc: Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and WINE
It's listed under Active Python Releases and the latest version 2.7.18 was released April 20th 2020. That makes it still current and supported.
On 20 April 2020 at 20:46 Tom Consodine nd5y@yahoo.com wrote:
If it's under development then why does it say this? 2.7 Maintenance status end-of-life First released 2010-07-03 End of support 2020-01-01
Tom ND5Y
On 4/20/20 7:18 PM, Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
No. Python 2.7 is still under active development. You might just need to install it if your distro vendor doesn't. It's here: https://www.python.org/downloads/
Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Tony F at goldstar611@hotmail.com To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
https://pythoninsider.blogspot.com/2020/04/python-2718-last-release-of-pytho...
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 9:24 PM Tony Fuller goldstar611@hotmail.com wrote:
But it's not unfortunately. 2.7.18 was just a re-release of 2.7.16 from 4 Mar 2019. 2.7.18's only purpose was to share the first few numbers from Euler's constant. (silly programmers)
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/thread/OFCIETIXL...
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/python/cpython/v2.7.18/Misc/NEWS.d/2.7.18....
Tony
*From:* chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com < chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com> on behalf of Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF nigel@ngunn.net *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 9:09:34 PM *To:* Tom Consodine nd5y@yahoo.com *Cc:* Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and WINE
It's listed under Active Python Releases and the latest version 2.7.18 was released April 20th 2020. That makes it still current and supported.
On 20 April 2020 at 20:46 Tom Consodine nd5y@yahoo.com wrote:
If it's under development then why does it say this? 2.7 Maintenance status end-of-life First released 2010-07-03 End of support 2020-01-01
Tom ND5Y
On 4/20/20 7:18 PM, Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
No. Python 2.7 is still under active development. You might just need
to install it if your distro vendor doesn't.
It's here: https://www.python.org/downloads/
Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Tony F at goldstar611@hotmail.com To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to UtahDave at boucha@gmail.com To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 3:49 AM David Boucha boucha@gmail.com wrote:
https://pythoninsider.blogspot.com/2020/04/python-2718-last-release-of-pytho...
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 9:24 PM Tony Fuller goldstar611@hotmail.com wrote:
But it's not unfortunately. 2.7.18 was just a re-release of 2.7.16 from 4 Mar 2019. 2.7.18's only purpose was to share the first few numbers from Euler's constant. (silly programmers)
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/thread/OFCIETIXL...
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/python/cpython/v2.7.18/Misc/NEWS.d/2.7.18....
Tony
*From:* chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com < chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com> on behalf of Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF nigel@ngunn.net *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 9:09:34 PM *To:* Tom Consodine nd5y@yahoo.com *Cc:* Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and WINE
It's listed under Active Python Releases and the latest version 2.7.18 was released April 20th 2020. That makes it still current and supported.
On 20 April 2020 at 20:46 Tom Consodine nd5y@yahoo.com wrote:
If it's under development then why does it say this? 2.7 Maintenance status end-of-life First released 2010-07-03 End of support 2020-01-01
Tom ND5Y
On 4/20/20 7:18 PM, Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
No. Python 2.7 is still under active development. You might just need
to install it if your distro vendor doesn't.
It's here: https://www.python.org/downloads/
Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Tony F at goldstar611@hotmail.com To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to UtahDave at boucha@gmail.com To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
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Well, I am a slow upgrader. I an still on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Xenial, and do not know why I would want to "upgrade," which it seems just breaks things. Xenial works perfectly for me, and as long as it does, I will not be changing versions!
Pat Anderson KD7OAC
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 8:25 PM Tony Fuller goldstar611@hotmail.com wrote:
But it's not unfortunately. 2.7.18 was just a re-release of 2.7.16 from 4 Mar 2019. 2.7.18's only purpose was to share the first few numbers from Euler's constant. (silly programmers)
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/thread/OFCIETIXL...
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/python/cpython/v2.7.18/Misc/NEWS.d/2.7.18....
Tony
*From:* chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com < chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com> on behalf of Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF nigel@ngunn.net *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 9:09:34 PM *To:* Tom Consodine nd5y@yahoo.com *Cc:* Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and WINE
It's listed under Active Python Releases and the latest version 2.7.18 was released April 20th 2020. That makes it still current and supported.
On 20 April 2020 at 20:46 Tom Consodine nd5y@yahoo.com wrote:
If it's under development then why does it say this? 2.7 Maintenance status end-of-life First released 2010-07-03 End of support 2020-01-01
Tom ND5Y
On 4/20/20 7:18 PM, Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
No. Python 2.7 is still under active development. You might just need
to install it if your distro vendor doesn't.
It's here: https://www.python.org/downloads/
Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Tony F at goldstar611@hotmail.com To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Pat Anderson at anderson5420@gmail.com To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
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