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Todd Bloomingdale Tomah, WI

On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Pete Miller scmiller40@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

Acknowledging up front that I'm a rookie, so give me all the guidance you think I need. Although I'm sorely tempted to curse the darkness, the reason for this mail is to try to light a candle, in case anyone else has some of the same questions.

The challenge is differences in the terminology of repeater directories, CHIRP, and my new, first radio, a BaoFeng UV-5RE Plus. I've looked for answers in the CHIRP FAQ as well as some web searching. If you're not the right ones to deal with some or all of these questions, please share your suggestions about other sources.

In advance, thanks.

/kc1bkh -- Pete

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Below are examples of a repeater directory table, a csv-formatted table for BaoFeng UV-5RE Plus, and the cloned CHIRP report for the UV-5RE Plus

*The overall question:* How does the repeater directory terminology fit CHIRP's and the BaoFeng columns?

( This link was somewhat helpful, btw > http://kc5olo.org/downloads/repeater1.pdf . )

Repeater directory columns FREQ OFSST CITYCALL MODE CODE IN OUTSTATUSCOUNTY IRLPECHOLINKS/COMMENTS Las =-=

• Freq -- transmit frequency of repeater? yes, according to KC5OLO
• OFS -- For example, standard offset for 2m is -600 kHz

*What* gets entered *where* in the BaoFeng CSV and cloned columns? Maybe only the "-" or "+" or "split" gets entered? Then the offset is just calculated for each band?

• Mode

Same as BF-UV5 "Tone Mode", or maybe BF's "Mode" (which is usually FM for 2m band, right?) ? What is "Tone Mode"?

• Code In and Code Out--

Here are four examples from the repeater directory

146.445+1MCTBridgeportWA1RJI 77.0/ 156.777.0*Fairfield 224.680 (Rocky Hill, CT) 2012/09/09146.475+1MCT Norwalk W1NLK100.0100.0Fairfield 2012/09/12146.625 - CTFairfieldWB1CQO 100.0Fairfield 146.655- CTStamfordW1EE 100.0Fairfield 158564 WB1GRB-R2013/01/28

+1M is special offset?

146.445 : What does 77.0 / 156.7 for Code In mean?

146.445 : What does the red typestyle for Code Out mean?

• means 'Gated PL' but I don't know what that means, yet.

What are the units of the 77.0, 100.0, and 156.7 numbers? mHz?

• IRLP - The Internet Radio Linking Project

I'm not there yet

• Echo - Refers to EchoLink® ?

I'm not there yet

=-= BaoFeng UV-5RE-Plus memory columns

• cloned report downloaded from radio

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How do these terms map to the ones in the csv-format below?

csv cloned

Frequency.......Frequency

Name...............Name

Tone Mode.......?

Tone................?Tone

ToneSql...........?

DTCS Code......Dtcs Code

DTCS Rx Code ?

DTCS Pol.........Dtcs Polarity

CrossMode.......?

Duplex..............Duplex

Offset...............Offset

Mode................?Mode

Power...............? hi or lo, but I haven't found that detail, so far

Skip.................Skip

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BaoFeng UV-5RE-Plus memory columns

• csv format

Location |Name |Frequency|Duplex|Offset |Tone|rToneFreq|cToneFreq|DtcsCode| DtcsPolarity|Mode| TStep|Skip|Comment URCALLRPT1CALLRPT2CALL What are

rToneFreq

cToneFreq

TStep

Skip

Why aren't the csv and cloned column headers and content the same? I do get that the column headers are supposed to guide the process of uploading to the radio, so the *order* of columns can be different. But why not make them the same, anyhow?

May be a BaoFeng problem: When I try to manually enter info directly into the clone report, I can enter Name and Frequency, but clicking on other columns just makes the entire row (such as, the row for memory location 22) go away; seems to erase the row. I haven't figured out how to recover it, but since I haven't uploaded anything, I can of course download a new image. Suggestions about how to make direct entry into the downloaded, "cloned" report?

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Thanks. I've done my best to provide enough context, but if you want any more info, just ask.

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You are likely to get answers from some about all the differences.  I am going to try to help you on the tone question: Tone codes are built into your radio, starting at 77 I think to 156.7 , maybe higher on some radios. in steps. Tone Mode off or on Tone - frequency of tone for tone that turns the repeater on listening to your radio. Tone SQL (Squelch)  is a tone that you can enter so your radio only hears transmitters using the same tone on their transmit signals. DTCS = digital tones instead of analog tones DTCS TX code digital version of tone sql. DTCS POL  not sure, might be a way to find what DTCS signal another signal has on it.

In the top example "146.445 this is an odd setup for a regular repeater, it has a 1 meg split (common on 440 but not on 2 metere)  The top (77.6) is the tone to use on your transmitter to key up that repeater, the 156.7 is the tone to put on your receiver so that the transmitter will key up your receiver.  If you do not put any tone in for your receiver, all signals will key it up so unless there is an interference problem omit that part.

Hope this sheds some light.  73 Paul

On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 1:58 PM, Pete Miller scmiller40@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

Acknowledging up front that I'm a rookie, so give me all the guidance you think I need. Although I'm sorely tempted to curse the darkness, the reason  for this mail is to try to light a candle, in case anyone else has some of the  same questions.

The challenge is differences in the terminology of repeater directories, CHIRP, and my new, first radio, a BaoFeng UV-5RE Plus. I've looked for answers in the CHIRP FAQ as well as some web searching. If you're not the right ones to deal with some or all of these questions, please share your suggestions about other sources.

In advance, thanks.

/kc1bkh -- Pete

=-=-=

Below are examples of a repeater directory table, a csv-formatted table for BaoFeng UV-5RE  Plus, and the cloned CHIRP report for the UV-5RE Plus

The overall question: How does the repeater directory terminology fit CHIRP's and the BaoFeng columns?

( This link was somewhat helpful, btw > http://kc5olo.org/downloads/repeater1.pdf . )

Repeater directory columns FREQ OFS ST CITY CALL MODE CODE IN       OUT STATUS COUNTY IRLP ECHO LINKS/COMMENTS Las

=-= * Freq-- transmit frequency of repeater? yes, according to KC5OLO

* OFS-- For example, standard offset for 2m is -600 kHz What gets entered where in the BaoFeng CSV and cloned columns?  Maybe only the "-" or "+" or "split" gets entered? Then the offset is just calculated for each band? * Mode Same as BF-UV5 "Tone Mode", or maybe BF's "Mode" (which is usually FM for 2m band, right?) ? What is "Tone Mode"? * Code In and Code Out-- Here are four examples from the repeater directory 146.445 +1M CT Bridgeport WA1RJI 77.0/ 156.7 77.0* Fairfield     224.680 (Rocky Hill, CT) 2012/09/09 146.475 +1M CT Norwalk W1NLK 100.0 100.0 Fairfield     2012/09/12 146.625 -  CT Fairfield WB1CQO 100.0 Fairfield       146.655 -  CT Stamford W1EE 100.0 Fairfield   158564 WB1GRB-R 2013/01/28 +1M is special offset? 146.445 : What does 77.0 / 156.7 for Code In mean? 146.445 : What does the red typestyle for Code Out mean?

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• means 'Gated PL' but I don't know what that means, yet.

What are the units of the 77.0, 100.0, and 156.7 numbers? mHz? * IRLP - The Internet Radio Linking Project I'm not there yet * Echo - Refers to EchoLink® ? I'm not there yet =-=

BaoFeng UV-5RE-Plus memory columns

- cloned report downloaded from radio

How do these terms map to the ones in the csv-format below?

csv                  cloned Frequency.......Frequency Name...............Name Tone Mode.......? Tone................?Tone ToneSql...........? DTCS Code......Dtcs Code DTCS Rx Code ? DTCS Pol.........Dtcs Polarity CrossMode.......? Duplex..............Duplex Offset...............Offset Mode................?Mode Power...............? hi or lo, but I haven't found that detail, so far Skip.................Skip             =-=

BaoFeng UV-5RE-Plus memory columns  - csv format

Location  |Name |Frequency |Duplex |Offset |Tone| rToneFreq |cToneFreq| DtcsCode| DtcsPolarity |Mode| TStep |Skip |Comment URCALL RPT1CALL RPT2CALL What are  rToneFreq cToneFreq  TStep Skip

Why aren't the csv and cloned column headers and content the same? I do get that the column headers are supposed to guide the process of uploading to the radio, so the order of columns can be different. But why not make them the same, anyhow?

May be a BaoFeng problem: When I try to manually enter info directly into the clone report, I  can enter Name and Frequency, but clicking on other columns just makes the entire row (such  as, the row for memory location 22) go away; seems to erase the row. I haven't figured out how  to recover it, but since I haven't uploaded anything, I can of course download a new image. Suggestions about how to make direct entry into the downloaded, "cloned" report?

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Thanks. I've done my best to provide enough context, but if you want any more info, just ask. _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users

Hi Pete,

On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Pete Miller scmiller40@gmail.com wrote:

=-=-=

Below are examples of a repeater directory table, a csv-formatted table for BaoFeng UV-5RE Plus, and the cloned CHIRP report for the UV-5RE Plus

*The overall question:* How does the repeater directory terminology fit CHIRP's and the BaoFeng columns?

Repeater directory columns FREQ OFSST CITYCALL MODE CODE IN OUTSTATUSCOUNTY IRLPECHOLINKS/COMMENTS Las =-=

• Freq -- transmit frequency of repeater? yes, according to KC5OLO

This is the frequency that you are going to listen to (aka the transmit

frequency of the other station). This corresponds to the CHIRP Frequency column.

• OFS -- For example, standard offset for 2m is -600 kHz

*What* gets entered *where* in the BaoFeng CSV and cloned columns? Maybe only the "-" or "+" or "split" gets entered? Then the offset is just calculated for each band?

This is used for repeaters. It is used to "offset" the transmit frequency

relative to the receive frequency. The offset amount is usually 600 KHz for VHF repeaters and 5 MHz for UHF repeaters. "-" and "+" are used to designate the direction that TX is shifted from RX (lower in frequency and higher in frequency, respectively) -600 would mean set Duplex = "-" and Offset = "0.600000"

When you use "Split" you enter the TX frequency directly into the Offset column. In your 146.445 example below, the frequency that your radio needs to transmit on is 1 MHz above the RX frequency. In this case you would set Duplex = "Split" and Offset = "147.445" But once you press the [Go] button, Duplex will change to "+" and Offset will change to "1.000000" (another way to say the same thing)

When you enter a ham repeater frequency such as 146.640000, CHIRP will recognize this as a 2 meter repeater frequency and automatically set Duplex and Offset.

• Mode

Same as BF-UV5 "Tone Mode", or maybe BF's "Mode" (which is usually FM for 2m band, right?) ? What is "Tone Mode"?

I'm not sure what this is but I am sure it has nothing to do with tones.

May be something to do with Wideband mode verses Narrowband mode. This is the Mode column in CHIRP which can be set to FM (wide) or NFM (narrow).

• Code In and Code Out--

This is for the CTCSS tone(s). The first one is the one that is required

to access the repeater. The second one is never required and is best to be left out until you understand how CTCSS works. It is the CTCSS tone for receiving and if you set it wrong you will not hear anything.

• Here are four examples from the repeater directory

146.445+1MCTBridgeportWA1RJI 77.0/ 156.777.0*Fairfield 224.680 (Rocky Hill, CT) 2012/09/09146.475+1MCT Norwalk W1NLK100.0100.0Fairfield 2012/09/12146.625 - CTFairfieldWB1CQO 100.0Fairfield 146.655- CTStamfordW1EE 100.0Fairfield 158564 WB1GRB-R2013/01/28

+1M is special offset?

Compared to the standard 600 KHz (0.600 MHz) for VHF or 5.000 MHz for

UHF, this is special/odd/non-standard

146.445 : What does 77.0 / 156.7 for Code In mean?

77.0 Hz is the CTCSS tone that you must send to access the repeater

156.7 Hz is the CTCSS tone that the repeater sends to open your squelch. You do not have to program this tone.

146.445 : What does the red typestyle for Code Out mean?

• means 'Gated PL' but I don't know what that means, yet.

It probably means that this CTCSS tone is not transmitted all of the time.

It you program this into your radio and the tone is not being transmitted, you will not hear anything. Do not program receive CTCSS tones unless you understand how they work and know why you really need it.

What are the units of the 77.0, 100.0, and 156.7 numbers? mHz?

Hz. They are considered "sub-audible"

• IRLP - The Internet Radio Linking Project

I'm not there yet

• Echo - Refers to EchoLink® ?

I'm not there yet

=-= BaoFeng UV-5RE-Plus memory columns

• cloned report downloaded from radio

Your best bet here is to program several channels with various CTCSS tone

and DTCS code modes and export it. All of the columns are explained in the CHIRP Guide on the miklor.com website. It wouldn't hurt to look at the CHIRP Examples page either.

http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php

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How do these terms map to the ones in the csv-format below?

csv cloned

Frequency.......Frequency

Name...............Name

Tone Mode.......?

Tone................?Tone

ToneSql...........?

DTCS Code......Dtcs Code

DTCS Rx Code ?

DTCS Pol.........Dtcs Polarity

CrossMode.......?

Duplex..............Duplex

Offset...............Offset

Mode................?Mode

Power...............? hi or lo, but I haven't found that detail, so far

Skip.................Skip

=-=

BaoFeng UV-5RE-Plus memory columns

• csv format

Location |Name |Frequency|Duplex|Offset |Tone|rToneFreq|cToneFreq|DtcsCode| DtcsPolarity|Mode| TStep|Skip|Comment URCALLRPT1CALLRPT2CALL What are

rToneFreq

the RX CTCSS tone

cToneFreq

the TX CTCSS tone

TStep

the STEP setting with isn't required for the UV-5R

Skip

a flag to determine if this memory channel is to be skipped ("S") or

scanned ("") when scanning.

Why aren't the csv and cloned column headers and content the same? I do get that the column headers are supposed to guide the process of uploading to the radio, so the *order* of columns can be different. But why not make them the same, anyhow?

Because the CSV file is a common format independent upon the Vendor or

Model of radio. The Memory Spreadsheet Editor is somewhat customized for the particular radio model being programmed.

May be a BaoFeng problem: When I try to manually enter info directly into the clone report, I can enter Name and Frequency, but clicking on other columns just makes the entire row (such as, the row for memory location 22) go away; seems to erase the row. I haven't figured out how to recover it, but since I haven't uploaded anything, I can of course download a new image. Suggestions about how to make direct entry into the downloaded, "cloned" report?

It sounds like you have just clicked on a row and that isn't good enough.

Click in the cell. You will then see it change and you will then know it is ready for input.

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Jim KC9HI