Hello John, Chris here, a G4 for quite some time!

What you and everybody else with data communications problems between their computers and their radios are missing is a USB interface. This business of having to use exactly the right cable, exactly the right driver from the dim and distant past, and in some cases having to modify the shape of either the radio or the data lead to make them fit, is an absolute nonsense and has been for many years. I read the emails to chirp-users and I would guess that at least 70% of them concern problems with data transfer.

I will not be buying another radio with a data interface unless it is to the world-wide standard for USB, including both hardware and software. In this respect it is high time that the manufacturers of radio equipment dragged themselves into the 21st Century.

I am not a fan of Bill Gates because of the damage he has done to computing as a whole over the last 40 years, but apart from the name, at least he got the USB interface right. I mean, fancy calling a digital communications interface 'Upper Side Band'!

Regards, Chris



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   1. Re: Lat + Long => WW Locator (Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF)
   2. Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re:  Lat + Long => WW Locator
      (Bisdorf, Paul L Jr CIV USARMY CESWT (US))
   3. Re: Lat + Long => WW Locator (Kenneth L. Bechtel, II)
   4. Re: Lat + Long => WW Locator (Bruce Harper)
   5. Re: Lat + Long => WW Locator (Martin Kratoska)
   6. Re: Lat + Long => WW Locator (Patrick Brown)
   7. No Data (John Laiosa)
   8. Re: No Data (Jim Unroe)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 15:11:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF" <nigel@ngunn.net>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Lat + Long => WW Locator
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
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In which country. I've never seen UTM before.


> On 06 July 2017 at 13:25 "Kenneth L. Bechtel, II" <kbechtel@teamanti-virus.org> wrote:
>
>
> Just to put it out there, many services, such as Search and Rescue use UTM,


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 19:21:39 +0000
From: "Bisdorf, Paul L Jr CIV USARMY CESWT (US)"
        <Paul.Bisdorf@usace.army.mil>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] [Non-DoD Source] Re:  Lat + Long => WW
        Locator
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
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UTM, or Universal Transverse Mercator, has been in wide use by the military for many years.  Of late, it has been largely supplanted by the Military Grid Reference System, which retains the same grid system, but uses naming conventions that are much more user friendly.  NATO uses both, but MGRS is far more prevalent, and will eventually completely replace UTM.

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [chirp_users] Lat + Long => WW Locator

In which country. I've never seen UTM before.


> On 06 July 2017 at 13:25 "Kenneth L. Bechtel, II" <kbechtel@teamanti-virus.org> wrote:
>
>
> Just to put it out there, many services, such as Search and Rescue use UTM,
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 15:25:11 -0400
From: "Kenneth L. Bechtel, II" <kbechtel@teamanti-virus.org>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Lat + Long => WW Locator
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UTM was invented by the military and has been adopted by ground search teams
worldwide, based on the ability to go to a 1M square.  Air and Sea SAR still
use LAT LONG due to the larger scale operations and areas.  I specifically
am in the states.

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Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 3:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Lat + Long => WW Locator

In which country. I've never seen UTM before.


> On 06 July 2017 at 13:25 "Kenneth L. Bechtel, II"
<kbechtel@teamanti-virus.org> wrote:
>
>
> Just to put it out there, many services, such as Search and Rescue use
> UTM,
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 15:25:45 -0400
From: Bruce Harper <brucebharper@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Lat + Long => WW Locator
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
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On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Nigel wrote:

In which country. I've never seen UTM before.
>
>
> > On 06 July 2017 at 13:25 "Kenneth L. Bechtel, II" <
> kbechtel@teamanti-virus.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Just to put it out there, many services, such as Search and Rescue use
> UTM,
>

?Universal Transverse Mercator, which divides the entire earth into a grid.
However, at least in parts of the United States, many SAR groups are
shifting to using the United States National Grid (USNG) system, which is
what the Federal Emergency Management Agency uses.

Bruce in Blacksburg

---

Bruce B. Harper

2nd Lt. Recruitment and Retention

Search Team Leader/Public Information Officer

Southwest Virginia Mountain Rescue Group

http://swvamrg.blacksburgrescue.org/
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 22:53:20 +0200
From: Martin Kratoska <martin@ok1rr.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Lat + Long => WW Locator
To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
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I am possibly in wrong forum.

I am a ham radio operator (call sign OK1RR) for 50 years, active
primarily on CW (Morse Telegraphy). Now I should be a new owner of a
Kenwood VHF/UHF Transceiver which I plan to use for talking to local
friends, possibly using a repeater. Also, frequencies outside of Ham
Radio bands are out of scope. Anyway, local roundups are quite marginal
for me, my hobby is and will remain Morse Telegraphy and contacts to
rare remote places (for hams who knows what 'country', 'DXCC' means - I
have 345 DXCC countries confirmed).

Anyway, Lat/Long is for me not a problem. I wanted to say that for ham
radio operators in Europe is more convenient to use the WW Locator...

My apologies to freaks of Search and Rescue services, military etc. I am
not keen of these things and never will be due to lack of interest.

Regards,

Martin
(Prague, Czech)

Dne 6.7.2017 v 19:25 Kenneth L. Bechtel, II napsal(a):
> Just to put it out there, many services, such as Search and Rescue use UTM,
> so agreeing on a standard is a good thing.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com
> [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Martin
> Kratoska
> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 1:10 PM
> To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
> Subject: [chirp_users] Lat + Long => WW Locator
>
> Esteemed reflectees,
>
> here is my humble suggestion:
>
> use WW Locator (ie. JO70FB) everywhere, where geographical coordinates (Lat,
> Long) are requested. We in EU using mostly WW Locator for such purposes,
> some guys are not comfortable with coordinates...
>
> 73,
> Martin, OK1RR
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 18:58:34 -0700
From: Patrick Brown <n7fhb@wickenburg.net>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Lat + Long => WW Locator
To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
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USA ,Yavapai Co. AZ

   Patrick Brown  YCSRT 3213

       N7FHB Wilhoit
      145.350 Wildflower
      SYCSRT TEAM Manager
      http://ycsrt.org

T.E.A.M = Together Everyone Accomplishes More

On 7/6/2017 12:11 PM, Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
> In which country. I've never seen UTM before.
>
>
>> On 06 July 2017 at 13:25 "Kenneth L. Bechtel, II" <kbechtel@teamanti-virus.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Just to put it out there, many services, such as Search and Rescue use UTM,
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2017 02:22:40 +0000
From: John Laiosa <jlaiosa@gmail.com>
Subject: [chirp_users] No Data
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
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After multiple failures with the Mac, I decides to use my work Windows
laptop.  Got everything setup and working.  However when I upload from the
radio the spread sheet is empty. The radio indicates it is "waiting" and
beeps when it is done, but there is nothing on the spread sheet.  I tried
uploading to the radio and that did not work either. It appears if the data
rate and/or the connection is not correct. What I am missing?

Thanks for the help.

John N1BSO
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 22:54:04 -0400
From: Jim Unroe <rock.unroe@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] No Data
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
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On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:22 PM, John Laiosa <jlaiosa@gmail.com> wrote:
> After multiple failures with the Mac, I decides to use my work Windows
> laptop.  Got everything setup and working.  However when I upload from the
> radio the spread sheet is empty. The radio indicates it is "waiting" and
> beeps when it is done, but there is nothing on the spread sheet.  I tried
> uploading to the radio and that did not work either. It appears if the data
> rate and/or the connection is not correct. What I am missing?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> John N1BSO

You must "download" from the radio to CHIRP first.

Also, if you programming cable has a counterfeit Prolific
USB-to-Serial chip, then you must download, install and select the
older Prolific v3.2.0.0 device driver because the one that is
automatically installed by Windows is intentionally incompatible.

http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_Drivers.php

Jim


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