Chuck,

It seems you really want to convince me that monitors aren't expensive - I'm not sure why, since everything I've written is "+ monitor".

Yes, people can use their home TVs.

Yes, older computer displays are abundant and in many cases freely available.

Your first post said:

"And for the price of a RPi 400 you just need to add a screen and you are off to the races..."

You left out PS, mouse, hdmi cable & microSD card, and adding those to a $70 RPi 400 takes you close to the $100 mark I mentioned.

Ken, N2VIP

On Jan 25, 2022, at 19:15, Chuck Hast <kp4djt@gmail.com> wrote:


Ken, in this case I do not have a junk box, but there is
an IT recycler (actually several) in town and they all
have monitors and are more than glad to part with them
for a few $$. I think if people will look around they will
find that most cities of any size will have them and a
lot of computer shops end up with a collection of mon-
itors for the which they will gladly part for a few $$. 

Even in more rural areas, I am going to bet that more
than one shop has monitors that they would like to be
rid of, they work but perhaps are not the best for the
usual video but for a Chirp/ RPi setup they would
work great. 

I see the IT recyclers here send them to grind up, so
many monitors and so little space.  If they get a few
$$ for them that is more than they get when they are
sent to the grinder. 

When I talk about scrounging, it is not necessarily in
my junk box, if people will look a wee bit they will find
that there are a lot of ways to keep costs down. Most
TV's have HDMI inputs now and for Chirp they work
pretty well, even small ones. 

On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 2:45 PM Ken Hansen <ken@n2vip.org> wrote:
Chuck,

My $100 number started with an RPi 400, not a 'traditional' RPI.

RPi 400 - $70
Mouse - $7
Power adapter - $7
HDMI cable -$7 (microHDMI to standard HDBI)
Name-brand MicroSD card - $7

That gives you $98 plus monitor, or simply get the RPi 400 'complete kit' for $100 and get a nice book also.

Substitute a 2 Gig RPi 4 (assuming you can find one):

RPi - $45
Case for RPi 4 - $5
Keyboard - $20 (I too like Logitech K400)
Power adapter - $7
HDMI cable -$7 (microHDMI to standard HDBI)
Name-brand MicroSD card - $7

That gets you to $91 plus monitor.

Either path takes you close to $100, esp once you add in tax, s/h, etc.

It's nice that you have a junk box that has all the needed items so you can 'scrounge' them, but it's disingenuous to assume everyone else has a similar junk box.

Ken, N2VIP

On Jan 25, 2022, at 06:14, Chuck Hast <kp4djt@gmail.com> wrote:


I buy a Logitech K400 which has a touchpad on it for about $20
at Walmart or other places that sell them. I either use a repurposed
TV or go to the local IT recycler and get me a monitor for $5-$10.
You do not need that much SD card for Chirp so that will cost less
than $10. So far I still am not near $100. Part of being a ham is
learning to scrounge. Part of running a RPi is also learning to
scrounge.  For travel I carry a RPi the keyboard and an HDMI cable
and use the HDMI port on the TV in the hotel. 


On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 12:46 AM Ken Hansen <ken@n2vip.org> wrote:
You need to add a screen, a mouse, a power supply, and an SD card.

The screen can get pricey pretty fast - money saved by buying a smaller screen will soon be spent on a pair of 'readers' to use the smaller screen.

I'm a big fan of RPi, but people like to gloss over the actual cost of such a setup.

An RPi 400 (Pi in a keyboard) setup can easily run $100 + monitor, cheaper than a new laptop, but pretty close to low-end, off-lease corporate laptops.

Ken, N2VIP

> On Jan 24, 2022, at 10:00, Chuck Hast <kp4djt@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> And for the price
> of a RPi 400 you just need to add a screen and you
> are off to the races...
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