That's not right John. You can hear FAX data if you know where to look, you can hear Packet Radio, and you can hear computer programs if you've still got a home computer from the 80's. They, and others, are all serial data and as you can hear them then they must be in the audio spectrum. Closer to our homes as Radio Amateurs, even Morse Code is a form of serial data. Most of it can be controlled by a volume control as fitted to cassette players, CW receivers, and Packet Radio transmitters and receivers. If the volume control was turned down to zero, you wouldn't hear anything from any of them. Nor would the computer, the TNC or the FAX machine. Which is all very well, but I'm inclined to believe the people who say that the data in/out connectors on hand-helds don't use the audio channels (speaker and microphone) because a) its an obvious way to ensure data coms reliability, and b) its the way I would do it. But... The accountants would argue that the two extra terminals fitted to each of several million radio sets would amount to millions of yen in lost profit. So the early versions might be as designed by the engineers, i.e. two distinct interfaces (audio and data) but the later versions might be made to the lower specification as defined by the accountants. I can therefore see a case where, if you've got a later version, you would need to adjust the volume control when programming the memories. Two solutions: a) make sure your manual applies EXACTLY to the model you've got, especially if bought second-hand, and b) experiment. I'm sure other solutions are available from a variety of sources.
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2019 20:53:01 -0400 From: John Kemker kemkerj3@gmail.com Subject: Re: [chirp_users] UV-5R and volume. To: Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Message-ID: CA+r6kYQu-CNcRGVpdJ0AYbF1rtFhfUx+CxG8ft4bN4FRvORe0g@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
exactly
The data is serial data, which is not in the audio spectrum. There's no "modem" on either end of the cable. It's straight RS-232C data as might come out of the back of an older PC. Volume has nothing to do with it, as it's either "on" or "off."
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I cant get any good programing software to work. I downloaded it from Baofeng website for my UV-5R and every funition is mark with ?? signs so I don?t know what botton to use. I trird to use UV-3r software but it wont connect with my 5R. Where can I get software that will work correctly for my UV-5R.
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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2019 16:16:55 -0400 From: "JD Morrow" ngauge75@verizon.net Subject: Re: [chirp_users] UV-5R and volume. To: "Discussion of CHIRP" chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Message-ID: 62FFB68360F84463A8D8FFCE40A3C5D4@Laptop15 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original
All, Have been programming multiple (15+/-) UV-5's, for our group, for several years. Never have had to mess with the volume. Versions of hardware at the beginning was the worst. Cables and drivers, were a pain for a while to, but not the radio controls.
73's JD k2txv
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On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 12:56 PM Don Goodrich don.goodrich@cheerful.com wrote:
Certainly the computer volume control has no influence but since the data is being communicated to/from the radio over the external radio audio port, the radio volume control needs to be set midrange for the cable to "hear" the outbound data.
Don Goodrich don.goodrich@Cheerful.com AF7DG
The digital data is proviced on connections that have nothing to do with the connections for the analog speaker audio or the analog microphone audio. In addition to the audio wires (that aren't included in the programming cable since they are not necessary to have for programming) and the data wires, there is even a connection that provides DC voltage (5V or 3.3V depending on the radio) to power external devices.
http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_Technical.php#spkrmic
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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2019 17:10:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF" nigel@ngunn.net Subject: Re: [chirp_users] UV-5R and volume. To: Discussion of CHIRP chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com, Don Goodrich don.goodrich@cheerful.com Message-ID: 2139978547.224644.1560028246453@email.ionos.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Data uses the same connector. It doesn't go through the radio's audio chain. Audio is disabled when in program mode.
On 08 June 2019 at 12:48 Don Goodrich don.goodrich@cheerful.com wrote:
Certainly the computer volume control has no influence but since the data is being communicated to/from the radio over the external radio audio port, the radio volume control needs to be set midrange for the cable to "hear" the outbound data. Don Goodrich don.goodrich@Cheerful.com AF7DG Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2019 at 7:12 AM From: "Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF" <nigel@ngunn.net> To: "Discussion of CHIRP" <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>, "Dennis Wage" <dwage@dwage.com> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] UV-5R and volume. True. The setting of the volume control has NOTHING to do with programming. If you have to wait several minutes between plugging in the radio and downloading with Chirp then your Windows installation is broken. It's not Chirp causing it. > > On 08 June 2019 at 06:54 Dennis Wage <dwage@dwage.com> wrote:Pertaining to the UV-5R series of phones, I have seen numerous times that the volume needs to be turned up. Let's once and for all dispel or confirm this. I for one have found, and it makes total sense to me, that the volume has absolutely nothing to do with data being transferred to a computer with the data cable. Please confirm or deny. Thanks, Dennis M. Wage (W9BOQ) 245 Corum Hill Road Castalian Springs, TN 37031 (615) 310-4242 Cell (615) 562-5128 Home http://hammondb3organ.net/ http://overdubs.net _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Nigel Gunn, W8IFF at nigel@ngunn.net To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com >Nigel A. Gunn, 1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA. tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to Don Goodrich at don.goodrich@cheerful.com To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com
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