When programming with CHIRP, all prior data is automatically overwritten.
John
http://www.miklor.com
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I did use the program cable and program it I want to know if I add Chanel's will it delete the one on the radio
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Today's Topics:
1. UV82 Not Programming Via FTDI Cable (KD9BQO - James Brantley)
2. UV-5R+ says "image not supported by this radio". what does
this mean? (Jim)
3. Re: UV82 Not Programming Via FTDI Cable (Jim Unroe)
4. Re: UV-5R+ says "image not supported by this radio". what
does this mean? (John LaMartina)
5. Re: UV-5R+ says "image not supported by this radio". what
does this mean? (Jim Unroe)
6. still having trouble with software/drivers for Icom 2200H
(KB1PWN KB1PWN)
7. Re: still having trouble with software/drivers for Icom 2200H
(Jim Unroe)
8. Re: still having trouble with software/drivers for Icom 2200H
(John LaMartina)
9. Re: UV-5R+ says "image not supported by this radio". what
does this mean? (John Rice)
10. Re: still having trouble with software/drivers forIcom 2200H (Jim)
11. Re: UV-5R+ says "image not supported by this radio". what
does this mean? (Jim Unroe)
12. serial port monitor? (Rob Locher)
13. Re: serial port monitor? (Mike Miller)
14. New Daily Build (Build System)
15. Re: Bug #2155 - Uv-5r not receiving but will transmitt
(Lawrence Stewart)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 17:40:22 -0600
From: KD9BQO - James Brantley <kd9bqo@gmail.com>
Subject: [chirp_users] UV82 Not Programming Via FTDI Cable
To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
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Hello, I have a UV82 and an FTDI cable, downloads radio information just
fine and allows me to create CSV file, when I choose upload, the radio led
show green so there is activity but when the process is complete nothing
has changed on the radio.
Thanks for any help.
KD9BQO, James
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 18:05:06 -0600
From: "Jim" <jsites9297@att.net>
Subject: [chirp_users] UV-5R+ says "image not supported by this
radio". what does this mean?
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 19:19:52 -0500
From: Jim Unroe <rock.unroe@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] UV82 Not Programming Via FTDI Cable
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
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On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:40 PM, KD9BQO - James Brantley
<kd9bqo@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, I have a UV82 and an FTDI cable, downloads radio information just
> fine and allows me to create CSV file, when I choose upload, the radio led
> show green so there is activity but when the process is complete nothing has
> changed on the radio.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
>
> KD9BQO, James
Hi James,
Are you sure? Download from the radio, make a simple change (for
example, pick and empty Loc row and key in 146.52 into the Frequency
column and press enter to create a new channel), then upload it back
to the radio. Now check to see if the channel is there and report
back.
Jim KC9HI
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 19:23:02 -0500
From: "John LaMartina" <JohnLa@usa.net>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] UV-5R+ says "image not supported by this
radio". what does this mean?
To: "'Discussion of CHIRP'" <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
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It appears you are attempting to load an image from an older UV5R with and older incompatible firmware to a newer UV5R.
You should either:
1- Create a new template from the newer radio and do a cut/paste of frequencies or
2- Export to a .csv from the older radio and import it to the newer radio.
CHIRP is handling these as two separate radios.
John
From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 7:05 PM
To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
Subject: [chirp_users] UV-5R+ says "image not supported by this radio". what does this mean?
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 19:24:47 -0500
From: Jim Unroe <rock.unroe@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] UV-5R+ says "image not supported by this
radio". what does this mean?
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
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You are probably trying to upload a CHIRP Radio Image file that was
saved from a radio having BFB or BFS firmware into a radio that has
N5R firmware. That is a no-no.
What you must do is download from the new radio to create a tab
compatible with that radio. Then import the image that has the
channels that you are wanting to load into it.
File -> Import -> change file mask to "CHIRP Radio Images (*.img)",
choose the .img file, and then import the channels that you want into
the positions that you want, and finally upload into your radio.
Jim KC9HI
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Jim <jsites9297@att.net> wrote:
> UV-5R+ says "image not supported by this radio". what does this mean?
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 21:11:09 -0500
From: KB1PWN KB1PWN <kb1pwn@gmail.com>
Subject: [chirp_users] still having trouble with software/drivers for
Icom 2200H
To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
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I took some screenshots and placed them in a Google doc. Let me know what
else I should hunt down/share.
I'm missing something in the setup, but I am committed to figuring this out.
Many thanks to John and Todd for their swift replies.
Seth
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1YHJe_5627oxRuNwJa2Pbo8DoLuxCJpo54kgtuGmCRDg/edit?usp=sharing
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 21:15:32 -0500
From: Jim Unroe <rock.unroe@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] still having trouble with software/drivers
for Icom 2200H
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
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On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:11 PM, KB1PWN KB1PWN <kb1pwn@gmail.com> wrote:
> I took some screenshots and placed them in a Google doc. Let me know what
> else I should hunt down/share.
>
> I'm missing something in the setup, but I am committed to figuring this out.
>
> Many thanks to John and Todd for their swift replies.
>
> Seth
1. Downgrade your driver to v3.2.0.0
http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_Drivers.php
2. Disable SmartScreen
http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php#LoadingCHIRP
Jim KC9HI
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 21:37:43 -0500
From: "John LaMartina" <JohnLa@usa.net>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] still having trouble with software/drivers
for Icom 2200H
To: "'KB1PWN KB1PWN'" <kb1pwn@gmail.com>,
<chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
Message-ID: <002401d03c35$ba1ab4b0$2e501e10$@net>
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Seth,
Two thoughts immediately come to mind:
1) The driver you are using needs to be backdated to Prolific 3.2.0.0
If you are using a ?cloned? generic cable as many do, Win7 will load the current Prolific driver which is programmed to make the counterfeit chip fail.
The back dated driver should work perfectly. It can be found at http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_Drivers.php
2) Use CHIRP?s Latest Daily Build.
0.4.1 came out many months ago and doesn?t support the newer features of many radios.
I hope this helps?
John
http://www.miklor.com
From: KB1PWN KB1PWN [mailto:kb1pwn@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 9:11 PM
To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
Cc: tbloomingdale@gmail.com; JohnLa@usa.net
Subject: still having trouble with software/drivers for Icom 2200H
I took some screenshots and placed them in a Google doc. Let me know what else I should hunt down/share.
I'm missing something in the setup, but I am committed to figuring this out.
Many thanks to John and Todd for their swift replies.
Seth
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1YHJe_5627oxRuNwJa2Pbo8DoLuxCJpo54kgtuGmCRDg/edit?usp=sharing
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4273/9020 - Release Date: 01/29/15
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 20:29:30 -0600
From: John Rice <johnr@k9ij.net>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] UV-5R+ says "image not supported by this
radio". what does this mean?
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
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How can you determine which firmware your UV5-R has ?
Jim Unroe wrote:
> You are probably trying to upload a CHIRP Radio Image file that was
> saved from a radio having BFB or BFS firmware into a radio that has
> N5R firmware. That is a no-no.
>
> What you must do is download from the new radio to create a tab
> compatible with that radio. Then import the image that has the
> channels that you are wanting to load into it.
>
> File -> Import -> change file mask to "CHIRP Radio Images (*.img)",
> choose the .img file, and then import the channels that you want into
> the positions that you want, and finally upload into your radio.
>
> Jim KC9HI
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Jim<jsites9297@att.net> wrote:
>> UV-5R+ says "image not supported by this radio". what does this mean?
>>
>>
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 21:04:00 -0600
From: "Jim" <jsites9297@att.net>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] still having trouble with software/drivers
forIcom 2200H
To: "Discussion of CHIRP" <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
Message-ID: <BD949E74FE81431BBC6E96C3E3B4E0F8@JimPC>
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Well,that kind of worked! I did what you suggested below.and it seemed to
download fine,but none of my custom settings showed up.It did my name,turn
off lights I didn't want on,and such,but I have Location 1-14 named FRS and
programmed for the FRS channels(my group works off of these) but none show
up on the screen.I have done other radios and as soon as I program them,the
FRS channel one comes up on the screen.Don't know if I am doing something
wrong or what.Thanks again for your help.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Unroe" <rock.unroe@gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of CHIRP" <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] still having trouble with software/drivers
forIcom 2200H
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:11 PM, KB1PWN KB1PWN <kb1pwn@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I took some screenshots and placed them in a Google doc. Let me know what
>> else I should hunt down/share.
>>
>> I'm missing something in the setup, but I am committed to figuring this
>> out.
>>
>> Many thanks to John and Todd for their swift replies.
>>
>> Seth
>
> 1. Downgrade your driver to v3.2.0.0
>
> http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_Drivers.php
>
> 2. Disable SmartScreen
>
> http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php#LoadingCHIRP
>
> Jim KC9HI
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 22:09:06 -0500
From: Jim Unroe <rock.unroe@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] UV-5R+ says "image not supported by this
radio". what does this mean?
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
Message-ID:
<CADnO8U6zHUPYHt=Xo_hD0VQGdswWmHntB0g2kcJhi4q92ZR3Rg@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:29 PM, John Rice <johnr@k9ij.net> wrote:
> How can you determine which firmware your UV5-R has ?
>
Download from the radio to CHIRP (the best version for Baofeng radios
is any daily build from October 2014 or later). Then take a look on
the Settings -> Other Settings menu tab.
If "Firmware Message 1" is " Ver ", then the firmware version is in
"Firmware Message 2", otherwise the firmware version is in "Firmware
Message 1". All UV-5R radios (and variants) with firmware version
after BFB297 will have their "real" firmware version in "Firmware
Message 1".
Jim KC9HI
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 20:43:42 -0800
From: "Rob Locher" <rob@roblocher.com>
Subject: [chirp_users] serial port monitor?
To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
Message-ID: <op.xs9d24ui0kp21q@esprimo>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes
Hi all,
I believe I've found a CHIRP bug, er I mean an issue. When I try to
"Download from Radio" with my ID-880H, I get an error almost immediately:
"Failed to communicate with the radio: Unexpected response from radio".
I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 and the 2015-01-23 daily build of Chirp. I use
the same USB-to-serial converter to troubleshoot hardware devices
regularly using minicom, so I'm confident it's not a permissions problem.
I'm able to use the Icom software to program the radio (after booting the
netbook into Windows, ugh), so I don't think it's an issue with the radio
or the cable. I checked to see if I have the latest firmware for the
radio, but there haven't been any updates.
Before I report the issue, I'd like to gather as much information as I
reasonably can. If there's a relatively simple way to capture the traffic
on the serial port, I'd like to do that. I did some Googling, and all the
methods I found seemed complicated. Of course there might be a much
easier way, like setting a debug level. So I ask the group, is there
something reasonable that I can do to log the activity on the serial port
before I report my issue?
73,
- Rob W7GH
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 00:08:48 -0600
From: "Mike Miller" <lists@kc9doa.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] serial port monitor?
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
Message-ID: <54CB1FF0.8365.4D2B3242@lists.kc9doa.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Hi Rob,
Maybe this link will point you in a useful direction.
<http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1579391.html>
73
Mike kc9doa
On 29 Jan 2015 at 20:43, Rob Locher wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I believe I've found a CHIRP bug, er I mean an issue. When I
> try to
> "Download from Radio" with my ID-880H, I get an error almost
> immediately:
> "Failed to communicate with the radio: Unexpected response from
> radio".
> I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 and the 2015-01-23 daily build of
> Chirp. I use
> the same USB-to-serial converter to troubleshoot hardware
> devices
> regularly using minicom, so I'm confident it's not a
> permissions problem.
> I'm able to use the Icom software to program the radio (after
> booting the
> netbook into Windows, ugh), so I don't think it's an issue with
> the radio
> or the cable. I checked to see if I have the latest firmware
> for the
> radio, but there haven't been any updates.
>
> Before I report the issue, I'd like to gather as much
> information as I
> reasonably can. If there's a relatively simple way to capture
> the traffic
> on the serial port, I'd like to do that. I did some Googling,
> and all the
> methods I found seemed complicated. Of course there might be a
> much
> easier way, like setting a debug level. So I ask the group, is
> there
> something reasonable that I can do to log the activity on the
> serial port
> before I report my issue?
>
> 73,
> - Rob W7GH
> _______________________________________________
> chirp_users mailing list
> chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 00:06:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Build System <donotreply@danplanet.com>
Subject: [chirp_users] New Daily Build
To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
Message-ID:
<944426854.25.1422605189532.JavaMail.jenkins@eagle.danplanet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Greetings,
A new daily build of CHIRP is available. This includes changes made
directly to the tree yesterday, and may include additional features,
bug fixes, and/or bugs. If you are interested in trying it, grab it
from the following location:
http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/daily-20150130
A list of the changes included in this build (since the last daily)
follows:
Changes for Build #320
[Dan Smith <dsmith@danplanet.com>] Add updated Hungarian translation from Attila HA5JA
[Jim Unroe <rock.unroe@gmail.com>] [VV-898] Add Settings to Leixen VV-898 Module - Part 10
Add the following settings:
- Squelch Base Value (UHF)
- Squelch Base Value (VHF)
related to #2149
[Jim Unroe <rock.unroe@gmail.com>] [VV-898] Add Settings to Leixen VV-898 Module - Part 9
Add the following settings:
- DTMF Digit Time
- DTMF Digit Space Time
- DTMF First Digit Delay
- DTMF Pretime
- DTMF * and # Digit Delay
- DTMF ACK Decode
- DTMF Side Tone
Corrected spelling error in Part 7
related to #2149
[Jim Unroe <rock.unroe@gmail.com>] [VV-898] Add Settings to Leixen VV-898 Module - Part 8
Add the following settings:
- VOX Gain Level
- VOX Delay Time
- VOX Inhibit on Receive
related to #2149
[Jim Unroe <rock.unroe@gmail.com>] [VV-898] Add Settings to Leixen VV-898 Module - Part 7
Add the following Key Assignment settings:
- Long Press Time
- P1 Long
- P1 Short
- P2 Long
- P2 Short
- P3 Long
- P3 Short
- M Short
- Menu Enable
related to #2149
[K. Arvanitis <kosta@alumni.uvic.ca>] [PATCH] Dismissing save confirmation dialog was closing tab
A typical gtk Dialog will return a response of RESPONSE_DELETE_EVENT
when the dialog window is dismissed.
As a result dismissing the save confirmation dialog was performing similarly
to the user selecting the NO button (RESPONSE_NO)
This created a situation where a person could possibly loose their changes
should they dismiss the save confirmation dialog without using the cancel
button.
The fix essentially handles both the CANCEL and DELETE_EVENT responses as
the same.
Bug #2255
[K. Arvanitis <kosta@alumni.uvic.ca>] [FT-60] Memory Bank Link Scan
Added settings support for memory bank link scan.
Extended bitwise int data element to support xor operator.
Note: The mbs settings are stored in the 16 bits located at
memory location 0x09E in the high order bits.
Note: A bank can be linked even if it contains no memories.
In this case the radio ignores it during the mbl scan.
Bug #675
Bug #1945
[Jens Jensen <af5mi@yahoo.com>] [th9800] fix skip scan/priority issues #2247
Skip/priority settings were not taking effect.
Channel fields were for display only.
There are special channel banks controlling scan enable and priority.
This fix manipulates both channel fields and bank flags.
[K. Arvanitis <kosta@alumni.uvic.ca>] [PATCH] Fix Context-Menu Handler in Memory Editor
This patch modified the behaviour of the button event handler
for the memory editor to properly select the underlying elements
of the treeview when using the right mouse button.
Fixes #2249
[Jens Jensen <af5mi@yahoo.com>] [th9800] clarify channel display mode #1353
change "Frequency or Name" boolean to "Display" choice of Frequency or Name
[K. Arvanitis <kosta@alumni.uvic.ca>] [PATCH] Fix Link in About Dialog
The URL link in the about dialog is now functional. Tested in both
Ubuntu and Windows 8.1, verified working.
Replaced the MessageBox dialog for the 'Documentation' help menu item
with a hotlink to the website. The URL link in the MessageBox was non-
functional on Windows and overall it did not provide much information
outside of the link anyhow.
Bug #330
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:48:10 -0500
From: Lawrence Stewart <lstew452@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Bug #2155 - Uv-5r not receiving but will
transmitt
To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
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I submitted this on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 11:00 PM.
I do not see it the issues log?
73 KA2HJH,
Sincerely,
Larry Stewart
Splitrock ARA
Webmaster
862-324-6232
-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Stewart [mailto:lstew452@optonline.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 11:00 PM
To: 'chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com'
Subject: Bug #2155 - Uv-5r not receiving but will transmitt
This not fixed. I tried all those steps suggested and it did not work. The
radio was fine until I loaded my old file with chrip onto the new Uv-5r.
Then receive got muted.
I tried the factory image and leaving the beep on. Nothing works. I am upset
because it looks like the radio is ruined.
73 KA2HJH,
Sincerely,
Larry Stewart
Splitrock ARA
Webmaster
862-324-6232
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