In CHIRP, if you have Duplex on, it uses the offset. If it is off, offset is ignored. 

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD
Message sent through sub space hailing frequencies using the Universal Translator. 


On Jan 21, 2019, at 12:08, Keith .Yordy <keith.yordy@gmail.com> wrote:

Jardy, 

 Regarding the Duplex programming, my question was when using Chirp no observable changes can be seen in the Baofeng menu. I was just curious as to how that information is stored. To manually set up duplex, I assume your description of the procedure is correct. 

KY

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: KT7900D/QB25 driver for macOS 10.13 (Mojave)? (Jim Unroe)
   2. Re: KT7900D/QB25 driver for macOS 10.13 (Mojave)?
      (Frederick R. McDougall)
   3. Re: KT7900D/QB25 driver for macOS 10.13 (Mojave)? (Pat Anderson)
   4. Re: Tyt 9800 Update working with CSV files (Gary Craig)
   5. Re: Tyt 9800 Update working with CSV files
      (Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF)
   6. Re: How do I get extended error report from CHIRP? debug.log
      location in windows 10 (Gary Craig)
   7. Re: Tyt 9800 Update squelch issue (Gary Craig)
   8. Re: Tyt 9800 Update working with CSV files (Glenn At Home)
   9. Re: Tyt 9800 Update working with CSV files (Glenn At Home)
  10. Re: KT7900D/QB25 driver for macOS 10.13 (Mojave)? (Chuck Hast)
  11. Re: KT7900D/QB25 driver for macOS 10.13 (Mojave)? (Patty Winter)
  12. UV-5R question (Keith .Yordy)
  13. Re: Tyt 9800 Update working with CSV files (Gary Craig)
  14. Re: UV-5R question (Jardy)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 15:28:19 -0500
From: Jim Unroe <rock.unroe@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] KT7900D/QB25 driver for macOS 10.13
        (Mojave)?
To: Patty Winter <n6bis@yahoo.com>,     Discussion of CHIRP
        <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
Message-ID:
        <CADnO8U5HKwDg_25bu8JAa-BZZMyaLhjS5wmGFtFvcA+sT4NPSg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 1:34 PM Patty Winter via chirp_users
<chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
>
>
> Success!
>
> I went over to mac-usb-serial.com as Jim suggested, intending to send them email asking whether the Radioddity/QYT cable was likely supported. They had a button on their home page to download a serial detection app, and when I did that, it saw the cable immediately and gave me a link to the order page for the correct driver. Three minutes and $9.30 later, I was successfully retrieving data from my QB25. I exported it to a CSV file so I can peruse it in Excel.
>
> Thanks for the help, guys. If either of you are involved in CHIRP development, perhaps you can suggest that mac-usb-serial.com be mentioned on the MacOS Tips page. Their detection app makes it easy to tell whether you can get a compatible driver without all the trial and error of downloading other drivers. I still don't know what happened to the other 2-3 drivers I installed. They said "Installation successful" but I don't see them on my Mac.
>
>
> 73,
> Patty

This is great news. Have fun with your radio and CHIRP.

Jim KC9HI


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 14:33:36 -0700
From: "Frederick R. McDougall" <frmcdo@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] KT7900D/QB25 driver for macOS 10.13
        (Mojave)?
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
Message-ID:
        <CAOZZO6C5G5RSZzj1VXUwHX6J2CsZJ4wQP98ruT9TQ5fLRMfbpg@mail.gmail.com>
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PAtty
Please be carefully with Excel as it truncates trailing commas which upsets
Chirp   Try LibreOffice which does not do this.
Fred VA6FRM

On Sun., Jan. 20, 2019, 13:30 Jim Unroe <rock.unroe@gmail.com wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 1:34 PM Patty Winter via chirp_users
> <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Success!
> >
> > I went over to mac-usb-serial.com as Jim suggested, intending to send
> them email asking whether the Radioddity/QYT cable was likely supported.
> They had a button on their home page to download a serial detection app,
> and when I did that, it saw the cable immediately and gave me a link to the
> order page for the correct driver. Three minutes and $9.30 later, I was
> successfully retrieving data from my QB25. I exported it to a CSV file so I
> can peruse it in Excel.
> >
> > Thanks for the help, guys. If either of you are involved in CHIRP
> development, perhaps you can suggest that mac-usb-serial.com be mentioned
> on the MacOS Tips page. Their detection app makes it easy to tell whether
> you can get a compatible driver without all the trial and error of
> downloading other drivers. I still don't know what happened to the other
> 2-3 drivers I installed. They said "Installation successful" but I don't
> see them on my Mac.
> >
> >
> > 73,
> > Patty
>
> This is great news. Have fun with your radio and CHIRP.
>
> Jim KC9HI
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 07:46:15 -0700
From: Pat Anderson <anderson5420@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] KT7900D/QB25 driver for macOS 10.13
        (Mojave)?
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
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I have bookmarked mac-usb-serial.com.  This reminded me that Mac drivers
are actually implemented as " kexts" (kernal extensions). I do not have
MacOS Mohave - does anyone know for sure whether that OS broke the Miklor
MacOS driver?

On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 2:35 PM Frederick R. McDougall <frmcdo@gmail.com>
wrote:

> PAtty
> Please be carefully with Excel as it truncates trailing commas which
> upsets Chirp   Try LibreOffice which does not do this.
> Fred VA6FRM
>
> On Sun., Jan. 20, 2019, 13:30 Jim Unroe <rock.unroe@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 1:34 PM Patty Winter via chirp_users
>> <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Success!
>> >
>> > I went over to mac-usb-serial.com as Jim suggested, intending to send
>> them email asking whether the Radioddity/QYT cable was likely supported.
>> They had a button on their home page to download a serial detection app,
>> and when I did that, it saw the cable immediately and gave me a link to the
>> order page for the correct driver. Three minutes and $9.30 later, I was
>> successfully retrieving data from my QB25. I exported it to a CSV file so I
>> can peruse it in Excel.
>> >
>> > Thanks for the help, guys. If either of you are involved in CHIRP
>> development, perhaps you can suggest that mac-usb-serial.com be
>> mentioned on the MacOS Tips page. Their detection app makes it easy to tell
>> whether you can get a compatible driver without all the trial and error of
>> downloading other drivers. I still don't know what happened to the other
>> 2-3 drivers I installed. They said "Installation successful" but I don't
>> see them on my Mac.
>> >
>> >
>> > 73,
>> > Patty
>>
>> This is great news. Have fun with your radio and CHIRP.
>>
>> Jim KC9HI
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 15:05:48 +0000
From: Gary Craig <gcraig@WebcoIndustries.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Tyt 9800 Update working with CSV files
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
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Glenn,
Thanks for the heads up about open office.  I have had issues with excel and open office working with csv files.  Did a little research trying to find a good csv editor and ran across this article:
How to open CSV files safely with Microsoft Excel
SupportAbility exports a number of CSV (Comma Separated Value) data files that can be used by other applications for invoicing, NDIS payment requests and other purposes.
THE PROBLEM
It is quite common for SupportAbility users to open these exported CSV files using programs like Microsoft Excel to check their contents before importing the file into a third party application such as MYOB.  However, when Microsoft Excel opens a CSV file, it attempts to interpret the data in that file and starts making changes to it.
For example, if Excel sees something in the CSV file that it identifies as a date (often incorrectly), Excel will change the date format in the CSV file to suit the way that it prefers to dates to be formatted.  Unfortunately, this generally has the unintended consequence of breaking the CSV file for the third party application that the CSV was specifically designed for.
THE SOLUTION
If you need to open a CSV file in Excel without breaking it, here's how to do it:

  1.  Open a new Excel sheet, select the Data tab, then click 'From Text' in the Get External Data group.
  2.  Browse to the CSV file and select 'Import'.
  3.  In step 1 of the Import Wizard choose 'Delimited' as the original data type. Click 'Next'.
  4.  In step 2 of the Import Wizard choose Comma as the delimiter (deselect the Tab check box) and click 'Next'.
  5.  In step 3 of the Import Wizard, you tell Excel not to change your formats. With the first column in the Data Preview selected, scroll across to the last column and select it while holding the SHIFT key (all columns should now be selected).  Then select 'Text' as the Column Data Format and click 'Finish'.
  6.  Click OK to insert the data into cell A1
You should now have a spreadsheet with the imported data but without Excel breaking the formatting required for the intended third party application.  Remember to export the file from Excel to CSV again before uploading to the third party application if you have made changes.
https://help.supportability.com.au/article/250-how-to-open-csv-files-safely-with-microsoft-excel

I will try this out when i get a chance and see if it will solve my issues so i can get all my radios programmed correctly.

Be blessed!
May 2019 be our year of change & growth!

Gary Craig
Maintenance
Webco Industries
Texas Distribution
750 Martin Luther King Jr Dr
Orange, TX 77630-3094
409-886-0807 ext. 107
Fax 918-246-7045

gcraig@webcotube.com<mailto:gcraig@webcotube.com>

From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com <chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com> On Behalf Of Glenn At Home
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 6:27 PM
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
Subject: [chirp_users] Tyt 9800 Update

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Thanks All, I think I got it working.
I tweaked the CSV file, at one point, Open Office took out all the values in the offset column, so I opened another file in Excel that was about the same, and I selected the column and copied it and switched over to the file in Open Office and pasted it in.
Setting it to the defaults helped, because this time when I imported the file, I think, the VHF is on the left and the UHF is on the right.
Not much UHF going on around here to be sure.
I need to learn the buttons on the mic other than the number pad and I know the top switch locks some of the keys, including the two top ones.
It's good to turn those off, as I find myself pressing keys on that thing just by holding it while punching a button.
Anyway,  thanks all for helping me get this far.
Glenn


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 10:15:56 -0500 (EST)
From: "Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF" <nigel@ngunn.net>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Tyt 9800 Update working with CSV files
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>,   Gary
        Craig <gcraig@WebcoIndustries.com>
Message-ID: <725684218.808758.1548083756564@email.ionos.com>
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Isn't it easier to just use Chirp's inbuilt editor?

I've never neededd to play with CSV format.

> On 21 January 2019 at 10:05 Gary Craig <gcraig@WebcoIndustries.com> wrote:
>
>
>     Glenn,
>
>     Thanks for the heads up about open office.  I have had issues with excel and open office working with csv files.  Did a little research trying to find a good csv editor and ran across this article:
>
>     How to open CSV files safely with Microsoft Excel
>
>     SupportAbility exports a number of CSV (Comma Separated Value) data files that can be used by other applications for invoicing, NDIS payment requests and other purposes.
>
>     THE PROBLEM
>
>     It is quite common for SupportAbility users to open these exported CSV files using programs like Microsoft Excel to check their contents before importing the file into a third party application such as MYOB.  However, when Microsoft Excel opens a CSV file, it attempts to interpret the data in that file and starts making changes to it. 
>
>     For example, if Excel sees something in the CSV file that it identifies as a date (often incorrectly), Excel will change the date format in the CSV file to suit the way that it prefers to dates to be formatted.  Unfortunately, this generally has the unintended consequence of breaking the CSV file for the third party application that the CSV was specifically designed for.
>
>     THE SOLUTION
>
>     If you need to open a CSV file in Excel without breaking it, here's how to do it:
>
>        1. Open a new Excel sheet, select the Data tab, then click 'From Text' in the Get External Data group.
>        2. Browse to the CSV file and select 'Import'.
>        3. In step 1 of the Import Wizard choose 'Delimited' as the original data type. Click 'Next'.
>        4. In step 2 of the Import Wizard choose Comma as the delimiter (deselect the Tab check box) and click 'Next'.
>        5. In step 3 of the Import Wizard, you tell Excel not to change your formats. With the first column in the Data Preview selected, scroll across to the last column and select it while holding the SHIFT key (all columns should now be selected).  Then select 'Text' as the Column Data Format and click 'Finish'.
>        6. Click OK to insert the data into cell A1
>
>     You should now have a spreadsheet with the imported data but without Excel breaking the formatting required for the intended third party application.  Remember to export the file from Excel to CSV again before uploading to the third party application if you have made changes.
>
>     https://help.supportability.com.au/article/250-how-to-open-csv-files-safely-with-microsoft-excel
>
>     
>
>     I will try this out when i get a chance and see if it will solve my issues so i can get all my radios programmed correctly.
>
>     
>
>     Be blessed!
>
>     May 2019 be our year of change & growth!
>
>     
>
>     Gary Craig
>
>     Maintenance
>
>     Webco Industries
>
>     Texas Distribution
>
>     750 Martin Luther King Jr Dr
>
>     Orange, TX 77630-3094
>
>     409-886-0807 ext. 107
>
>     Fax 918-246-7045
>
>     
>
>     gcraig@webcotube.com mailto:gcraig@webcotube.com
>
>     
>
>     From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com <chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com> On Behalf Of Glenn At Home
>     Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 6:27 PM
>     To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
>     Subject: [chirp_users] Tyt 9800 Update
>
>     
>
>     This email originated from an external sender. Use caution when following links or opening attachments as they could be malicious
>
>     Thanks All, I think I got it working.
>
>     I tweaked the CSV file, at one point, Open Office took out all the values in the offset column, so I opened another file in Excel that was about the same, and I selected the column and copied it and switched over to the file in Open Office and pasted it in.
>
>     Setting it to the defaults helped, because this time when I imported the file, I think, the VHF is on the left and the UHF is on the right.
>
>     Not much UHF going on around here to be sure.
>
>     I need to learn the buttons on the mic other than the number pad and I know the top switch locks some of the keys, including the two top ones.
>
>     It's good to turn those off, as I find myself pressing keys on that thing just by holding it while punching a button.
>
>     Anyway,  thanks all for helping me get this far.
>
>     Glenn
>
>     
>
>
>     Sent From My Tabletop
>




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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 15:37:56 +0000
From: Gary Craig <gcraig@WebcoIndustries.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] How do I get extended error report from
        CHIRP? debug.log location in windows 10
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>, "D.J.J.
        Ring,   Jr." <n1ea@arrl.net>
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On my windows 10 laptop the location of the debug.log file is under Windows\Users\username of installer(in my case under admin since i installed it that way)\AppData\Roaming\CHIRP

Be blessed!
May 2019 be our year of change & growth!

Gary Craig
Maintenance
Webco Industries
Texas Distribution
750 Martin Luther King Jr Dr
Orange, TX 77630-3094
409-886-0807 ext. 107
Fax 918-246-7045

gcraig@webcotube.com<mailto:gcraig@webcotube.com>

From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com <chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com> On Behalf Of Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>; D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@arrl.net>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] How do I get extended error report from CHIRP?

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It's in the DEBUG.LOG file stored somewhere on your hard drive (in the ~/chirp folder on Linux, no idea where in Windows)
On 17 January 2019 at 16:34 "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea@arrl.net<mailto:n1ea@arrl.net>> wrote:
How do I get extended debugging info from CHIRP.

I finally was able to test my USB cable.  My cable is fine.  My Wouxun
KG-UV8E works fine on Wouxun's Windows software, but does not work on
CHIRP, either on Windows 10 or Arch Linux.

I went back to the January 2018 daily build of CHIRP and used the
module that is for the UV8D Plus kguv8dplus.py and it doesn't work.

How can I help with this?

Regards,

David N1EA
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 15:44:22 +0000
From: Gary Craig <gcraig@WebcoIndustries.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Tyt 9800 Update squelch issue
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>, Jardy
        <jardy72@yahoo.com>
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Glenn,
You may have to short press the top right knob to set the right side as main band first before the squelch knob becomes active.

Be blessed!
May 2019 be our year of change & growth!

Gary Craig
Maintenance
Webco Industries
Texas Distribution
750 Martin Luther King Jr Dr
Orange, TX 77630-3094
409-886-0807 ext. 107
Fax 918-246-7045

gcraig@webcotube.com<mailto:gcraig@webcotube.com>

From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com <chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com> On Behalf Of Glenn At Home
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 6:51 PM
To: Jardy <jardy72@yahoo.com>; Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Tyt 9800 Update

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One reason I found already is I can squelch one side and not the other.
Glenn
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To: Discussion of CHIRP<mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Tyt 9800 Update

Why would you want to have vhf on one side and uhf on the other, instead of both sides the same?  What if you want to listen to two vhf or two uhf frequencies?  The only reason I can think of is if you would run out of channel storage space for all the frequencies you want to listen to otherwise.  Just my $0.03 (inflation) worth.
Jardy Dawson WA7JRD
Message sent through sub space hailing frequencies using the Universal Translator.


On Jan 19, 2019, at 16:27, Glenn At Home <GlennErvin@cableone.net<mailto:GlennErvin@cableone.net>> wrote:
Thanks All, I think I got it working.
I tweaked the CSV file, at one point, Open Office took out all the values in the offset column, so I opened another file in Excel that was about the same, and I selected the column and copied it and switched over to the file in Open Office and pasted it in.
Setting it to the defaults helped, because this time when I imported the file, I think, the VHF is on the left and the UHF is on the right.
Not much UHF going on around here to be sure.
I need to learn the buttons on the mic other than the number pad and I know the top switch locks some of the keys, including the two top ones.
It's good to turn those off, as I find myself pressing keys on that thing just by holding it while punching a button.
Anyway,  thanks all for helping me get this far.
Glenn


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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 10:20:43 -0600
From: "Glenn At Home" <GlennErvin@cableone.net>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Tyt 9800 Update working with CSV files
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That's good information Gary.
Thanks.


----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Craig
To: Discussion of CHIRP
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Tyt 9800 Update working with CSV files


Glenn,

Thanks for the heads up about open office.  I have had issues with excel and open office working with csv files.  Did a little research trying to find a good csv editor and ran across this article:

How to open CSV files safely with Microsoft Excel

SupportAbility exports a number of CSV (Comma Separated Value) data files that can be used by other applications for invoicing, NDIS payment requests and other purposes.

THE PROBLEM

It is quite common for SupportAbility users to open these exported CSV files using programs like Microsoft Excel to check their contents before importing the file into a third party application such as MYOB.  However, when Microsoft Excel opens a CSV file, it attempts to interpret the data in that file and starts making changes to it. 

For example, if Excel sees something in the CSV file that it identifies as a date (often incorrectly), Excel will change the date format in the CSV file to suit the way that it prefers to dates to be formatted.  Unfortunately, this generally has the unintended consequence of breaking the CSV file for the third party application that the CSV was specifically designed for.

THE SOLUTION

If you need to open a CSV file in Excel without breaking it, here's how to do it:

  1.. Open a new Excel sheet, select the Data tab, then click 'From Text' in the Get External Data group.
  2.. Browse to the CSV file and select 'Import'.
  3.. In step 1 of the Import Wizard choose 'Delimited' as the original data type. Click 'Next'.
  4.. In step 2 of the Import Wizard choose Comma as the delimiter (deselect the Tab check box) and click 'Next'.
  5.. In step 3 of the Import Wizard, you tell Excel not to change your formats. With the first column in the Data Preview selected, scroll across to the last column and select it while holding the SHIFT key (all columns should now be selected).  Then select 'Text' as the Column Data Format and click 'Finish'.
  6.. Click OK to insert the data into cell A1
You should now have a spreadsheet with the imported data but without Excel breaking the formatting required for the intended third party application.  Remember to export the file from Excel to CSV again before uploading to the third party application if you have made changes.

https://help.supportability.com.au/article/250-how-to-open-csv-files-safely-with-microsoft-excel



I will try this out when i get a chance and see if it will solve my issues so i can get all my radios programmed correctly.



Be blessed!

May 2019 be our year of change & growth!



Gary Craig

Maintenance

Webco Industries

Texas Distribution

750 Martin Luther King Jr Dr

Orange, TX 77630-3094

409-886-0807 ext. 107

Fax 918-246-7045



gcraig@webcotube.com



From: chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com <chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com> On Behalf Of Glenn At Home
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 6:27 PM
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
Subject: [chirp_users] Tyt 9800 Update



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Thanks All, I think I got it working.

I tweaked the CSV file, at one point, Open Office took out all the values in the offset column, so I opened another file in Excel that was about the same, and I selected the column and copied it and switched over to the file in Open Office and pasted it in.

Setting it to the defaults helped, because this time when I imported the file, I think, the VHF is on the left and the UHF is on the right.

Not much UHF going on around here to be sure.

I need to learn the buttons on the mic other than the number pad and I know the top switch locks some of the keys, including the two top ones.

It's good to turn those off, as I find myself pressing keys on that thing just by holding it while punching a button.

Anyway,  thanks all for helping me get this far.

Glenn




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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 10:22:10 -0600
From: "Glenn At Home" <GlennErvin@cableone.net>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Tyt 9800 Update working with CSV files
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I personally haven't found it to be very intuitive for editing.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
To: Discussion of CHIRP ; Gary Craig
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Tyt 9800 Update working with CSV files


Isn't it easier to just use Chirp's inbuilt editor?

I've never neededd to play with CSV format.

  On 21 January 2019 at 10:05 Gary Craig <gcraig@WebcoIndustries.com> wrote:


  Glenn,

  Thanks for the heads up about open office.  I have had issues with excel and open office working with csv files.  Did a little research trying to find a good csv editor and ran across this article:

  How to open CSV files safely with Microsoft Excel

  SupportAbility exports a number of CSV (Comma Separated Value) data files that can be used by other applications for invoicing, NDIS payment requests and other purposes.

  THE PROBLEM

  It is quite common for SupportAbility users to open these exported CSV files using programs like Microsoft Excel to check their contents before importing the file into a third party application such as MYOB.  However, when Microsoft Excel opens a CSV file, it attempts to interpret the data in that file and starts making changes to it. 

  For example, if Excel sees something in the CSV file that it identifies as a date (often incorrectly), Excel will change the date format in the CSV file to suit the way that it prefers to dates to be formatted.  Unfortunately, this generally has the unintended consequence of breaking the CSV file for the third party application that the CSV was specifically designed for.

  THE SOLUTION

  If you need to open a CSV file in Excel without breaking it, here's how to do it:

    1.. Open a new Excel sheet, select the Data tab, then click 'From Text' in the Get External Data group.
    2.. Browse to the CSV file and select 'Import'.
    3.. In step 1 of the Import Wizard choose 'Delimited' as the original data type. Click 'Next'.
    4.. In step 2 of the Import Wizard choose Comma as the delimiter (deselect the Tab check box) and click 'Next'.
    5.. In step 3 of the Import Wizard, you tell Excel not to change your formats. With the first column in the Data Preview selected, scroll across to the last column and select it while holding the SHIFT key (all columns should now be selected).  Then select 'Text' as the Column Data Format and click 'Finish'.
    6.. Click OK to insert the data into cell A1
  You should now have a spreadsheet with the imported data but without Excel breaking the formatting required for the intended third party application.  Remember to export the file from Excel to CSV again before uploading to the third party application if you have made changes.

  https://help.supportability.com.au/article/250-how-to-open-csv-files-safely-with-microsoft-excel



  I will try this out when i get a chance and see if it will solve my issues so i can get all my radios programmed correctly.



  Be blessed!

  May 2019 be our year of change & growth!



  Gary Craig

  Maintenance

  Webco Industries

  Texas Distribution

  750 Martin Luther King Jr Dr

  Orange, TX 77630-3094

  409-886-0807 ext. 107

  Fax 918-246-7045



  gcraig@webcotube.com



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  Thanks All, I think I got it working.

  I tweaked the CSV file, at one point, Open Office took out all the values in the offset column, so I opened another file in Excel that was about the same, and I selected the column and copied it and switched over to the file in Open Office and pasted it in.

  Setting it to the defaults helped, because this time when I imported the file, I think, the VHF is on the left and the UHF is on the right.

  Not much UHF going on around here to be sure.

  I need to learn the buttons on the mic other than the number pad and I know the top switch locks some of the keys, including the two top ones.

  It's good to turn those off, as I find myself pressing keys on that thing just by holding it while punching a button.

  Anyway,  thanks all for helping me get this far.

  Glenn




  Sent From My Tabletop




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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 10:57:50 -0600
From: Chuck Hast <kp4djt@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] KT7900D/QB25 driver for macOS 10.13
        (Mojave)?
To: Patty Winter <n6bis@yahoo.com>,     Discussion of CHIRP
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Watch out for Excel, it is evil on CSV files. It mangles them, I use both
CHIRP and programs
for my DMR radios, and I am moving stuff in and out of CSV files, found out
the hard way that
Excel does not excel when it comes to CSV. Libre Office is a good option or
you can look at it
with note or any other text processing app.

On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 12:43 PM Patty Winter via chirp_users <
chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:

> Pat, you'll see from my other message that it was a driver issue and I
> found one that works. But no problem tossing terms like ".plist" at me!
> I've been a UNIX command-line user for decades, so I'm quite comfortable in
> the macOS Terminal program. Supposedly the communication drivers are in the
> /dev directory as .cu and .tty files; I don't know whether they also show
> up in plists. There's still no sign of the first few drivers I tried to
> install (if I get around to it I'll grep the system for them), but the one
> from Repleo (mac-usb-serial.com) is in the /dev directory and working
> fine.
>
>
> Patty
>
> ----------
>
>
> On Sunday, January 20, 2019, 10:33:56 AM PST, Pat Anderson <
> anderson5420@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> The only other thing I can think of is that your cable might not be fully
> plugged into your radio. I do not think your Mac is "seeing" your radio -
> if you chose it from the drop-down boxes for Vendor and Model, CHIRP
> remembers these settings. Until you see a driver in the Port drop down box
> (other than Bluetooth etc.)  there is no way your Mac or CHIRP is "seeing"
> the radio. I have not gone "down deep" in the Mac for about three years
> (when I switched to Linux, which has a mutual admiration society with
> CHIRP) but as I recall the Mac implements the driver through a .plist file,
> and it has pl2302 in the name.This is probably getting a bit beyond the
> normal expectations for user interaction on a Mac! Sorry can't be more
> helpful!
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 17:28:37 +0000 (UTC)
From: Patty Winter <n6bis@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] KT7900D/QB25 driver for macOS 10.13
        (Mojave)?
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
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 Thanks for the tips, Chuck, I was wondering how well that worked. When I exported my radio's memory data from CHIRP to a .csv file, I made a copy of it as an Excel file so I could add my own notes. I haven't touched the .csv file yet and may or may not get brave enough to do that and re-upload to the radio. :-) If I do, I'll edit that file in TextEdit instead of Excel.


Patty N6BIS

    On Monday, January 21, 2019, 8:58:02 AM PST, Chuck Hast <kp4djt@gmail.com> wrote: 

 Watch out for Excel, it is evil on CSV files. It mangles them, I use both CHIRP and programsfor my DMR radios, and I am moving stuff in and out of CSV files, found out the hard way thatExcel does not excel when it comes to CSV. Libre Office is a good option or you can look at itwith note or any other text processing app.?
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 14:25:37 -0500
From: "Keith .Yordy" <keith.yordy@gmail.com>
Subject: [chirp_users] UV-5R question
To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
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 I have used Chirp to setup several UV-5R units and it works fantastic!
However, I was trying to setup a UV-5R with the keypad. I see in Chirp
there is a setting for Duplex, but this doesn't appear to show up anywhere
in the UV-5R. I have compared 462.600 simplex and 462.600 duplex and see no
differences in the keypad menu system. if I was to setup a duplex channel
manually, I am assuming I would have to set the offsets, etc., even though
they show no differences on the UV-5R. Is there another trick I am missing?

KY
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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 19:31:09 +0000
From: Gary Craig <gcraig@WebcoIndustries.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Tyt 9800 Update working with CSV files
To: "Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF" <nigel@ngunn.net>, Discussion of
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Nigel,
I can't paste anything into chirp.  Only way i can enter anything into it is manually, or import an .img or .csv file.

Be blessed!
May 2019 be our year of change & growth!

Gary Craig
Maintenance
Webco Industries
Texas Distribution
750 Martin Luther King Jr Dr
Orange, TX 77630-3094
409-886-0807 ext. 107
Fax 918-246-7045

gcraig@webcotube.com<mailto:gcraig@webcotube.com>

From: Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@ngunn.net>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 9:16 AM
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Isn't it easier to just use Chirp's inbuilt editor?

I've never neededd to play with CSV format.
On 21 January 2019 at 10:05 Gary Craig <gcraig@WebcoIndustries.com<mailto:gcraig@WebcoIndustries.com>> wrote:

Glenn,

Thanks for the heads up about open office.  I have had issues with excel and open office working with csv files.  Did a little research trying to find a good csv editor and ran across this article:

How to open CSV files safely with Microsoft Excel

SupportAbility exports a number of CSV (Comma Separated Value) data files that can be used by other applications for invoicing, NDIS payment requests and other purposes.

THE PROBLEM

It is quite common for SupportAbility users to open these exported CSV files using programs like Microsoft Excel to check their contents before importing the file into a third party application such as MYOB.  However, when Microsoft Excel opens a CSV file, it attempts to interpret the data in that file and starts making changes to it.

For example, if Excel sees something in the CSV file that it identifies as a date (often incorrectly), Excel will change the date format in the CSV file to suit the way that it prefers to dates to be formatted.  Unfortunately, this generally has the unintended consequence of breaking the CSV file for the third party application that the CSV was specifically designed for.

THE SOLUTION

If you need to open a CSV file in Excel without breaking it, here's how to do it:

  1.  Open a new Excel sheet, select the Data tab, then click 'From Text' in the Get External Data group.
  2.  Browse to the CSV file and select 'Import'.
  3.  In step 1 of the Import Wizard choose 'Delimited' as the original data type. Click 'Next'.
  4.  In step 2 of the Import Wizard choose Comma as the delimiter (deselect the Tab check box) and click 'Next'.
  5.  In step 3 of the Import Wizard, you tell Excel not to change your formats. With the first column in the Data Preview selected, scroll across to the last column and select it while holding the SHIFT key (all columns should now be selected).  Then select 'Text' as the Column Data Format and click 'Finish'.
  6.  Click OK to insert the data into cell A1

You should now have a spreadsheet with the imported data but without Excel breaking the formatting required for the intended third party application.  Remember to export the file from Excel to CSV again before uploading to the third party application if you have made changes.

https://help.supportability.com.au/article/250-how-to-open-csv-files-safely-with-microsoft-excel



I will try this out when i get a chance and see if it will solve my issues so i can get all my radios programmed correctly.



Be blessed!

May 2019 be our year of change & growth!



Gary Craig

Maintenance

Webco Industries

Texas Distribution

750 Martin Luther King Jr Dr

Orange, TX 77630-3094

409-886-0807 ext. 107

Fax 918-246-7045



gcraig@webcotube.com<mailto:gcraig@webcotube.com>



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Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 6:27 PM
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Thanks All, I think I got it working.

I tweaked the CSV file, at one point, Open Office took out all the values in the offset column, so I opened another file in Excel that was about the same, and I selected the column and copied it and switched over to the file in Open Office and pasted it in.

Setting it to the defaults helped, because this time when I imported the file, I think, the VHF is on the left and the UHF is on the right.

Not much UHF going on around here to be sure.

I need to learn the buttons on the mic other than the number pad and I know the top switch locks some of the keys, including the two top ones.

It's good to turn those off, as I find myself pressing keys on that thing just by holding it while punching a button.

Anyway,  thanks all for helping me get this far.

Glenn



Sent From My Tabletop


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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 11:59:30 -0800
From: Jardy <jardy72@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] UV-5R question
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When you manually program a Baofeng, you must enter the receive frequency and it?s tone, etc first, then program the transmit frequency in the same channel. Doing the offset I believe only works manually in bro mode. See www.miklor.com for more info.

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD
Message sent through sub space hailing frequencies using the Universal Translator.


> On Jan 21, 2019, at 11:25, Keith .Yordy <keith.yordy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  I have used Chirp to setup several UV-5R units and it works fantastic! However, I was trying to setup a UV-5R with the keypad. I see in Chirp there is a setting for Duplex, but this doesn't appear to show up anywhere in the UV-5R. I have compared 462.600 simplex and 462.600 duplex and see no differences in the keypad menu system. if I was to setup a duplex channel manually, I am assuming I would have to set the offsets, etc., even though they show no differences on the UV-5R. Is there another trick I am missing?
>
> KY
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