Aubrey - thanks for the research. I'm adding some sentences now with apostrophes to see if it's fixed as I've disabled the "Smart (dumb) Quotes" in System Preferences.
Let's see if it's fixed on my end.
Fred, KI7BCL
From: Aubrey Turner Sent: January 6, 2018 at 3:04:18 PM PST To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Subject: Re: [chirp_users] chirp_users Digest, Vol 109, Issue 6 and many others
Taking another look at the original email, what I'm seeing is that the email sent by Fred appears to be using "smart quotes' on the Mac (or at least it's sent from "Mac OS X Mail 10.3" per the headers).
Here's what his email looks like internally (inside the MIME envelope): Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Tip - it=E2=80=99s not Mac iOS (that=E2=80=99s the OS for the iPhone). = It=E2=80=99s MacOS.
FTDI does support Mac OS quite well. The cloning cables I've gotten = directly from the manufacturer or Valley Enterprises.
73=E2=80=99s
Fred KI7BCL
Note the use of the unicode code point E2 80 99, which is defined as: U+2019 ’ e2 80 99 RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
(more here: http://www.utf8-chartable.de/unicode-utf8-table.pl?start=8192&number=128 http://www.utf8-chartable.de/unicode-utf8-table.pl?start=8192&number=128)
Chris appears to be using Hotmail (and charset ISO-8859-1) based on the headers in his email.
There's an article on Apple.com http://apple.com/ about this. Apparently, disabling smart quotes will fix the issue:
FYI--I've seen similar problems when people use Word to compose their emails and then copy-and-paste the text to the email client. Word also uses smart quotes (which means it's using the 'e2 80 99' code point instead of the old-fashioned regular apostrophe (code point 27)).
Although it seems to me that perhaps if smart quotes are becoming more common, that perhaps Hotmail should start supporting them correctly. As I mentioned in a previous email, my Android email client (GMail app) had no issues with Fred's original email. And now that I'm on my PC (Ubuntu 16.04 LTS with Thunderbird), his email reads just fine (I.e. no extraneous question marks). However, if I look very closely, I can see that the apostrophes in his first sentence are visually distinct from the apostrophe in his second sentence. The difference being that the ones in the first sentence are smart quotes and the second sentence has the old standard apostrophe. The same is true of the apostrophe in his sign-off '73's'. The apostrophe is actually the "RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK' again, which is visually distinct.
On 01/06/2018 02:14 PM, Christopher F. Beesley wrote:
Hi, Chris here. What's all this utter nonsense that is becoming more and more common whereby the question mark is used instead of the apostrophe? I'm fed up of seeing stuff that won't read easily because of it, e.g. I?m fed up of seeing stuff that won?t read easily because of it. It?s rubbish! Where did you lot learn English grammar' Chris. N.B. All punctuation errors above are deliberate, designed to emphasise the point of this message.
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Today's Topics:
- Fwd: FDTI chip compatibility with Mac (T.E. Klamberg Klamberg)
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- Re: Fwd: FDTI chip compatibility with Mac (Jim McCorison)
- Re: Fwd: FDTI chip compatibility with Mac (Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
- Re: Fwd: FDTI chip compatibility with Mac (Aubrey Turner)
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 17:31:13 -0600 From: "T.E. Klamberg Klamberg" n9mvx@yahoo.com mailto:n9mvx@yahoo.com Subject: [chirp_users] Fwd: FDTI chip compatibility with Mac To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com Message-ID: 1A0978D7-3545-46A5-9A60-FAEF20F9553C@yahoo.com mailto:1A0978D7-3545-46A5-9A60-FAEF20F9553C@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Here is the answer I got from FTDI regarding their cable chipsets! Let me ask again: how many of you are Mac iOS users, and where did you get your cloning cables from? THanks. Tip N9MVX
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From: Cameron Forbes cameron.forbes@ftdichip.com mailto:cameron.forbes@ftdichip.com Subject: RE: FDTI chip compatibility with Mac Date: January 5, 2018 at 16:41:00 CST To: "T.E. Klamberg Klamberg" n9mvx@yahoo.com mailto:n9mvx@yahoo.com, US Support us.support@ftdichip.com mailto:us.support@ftdichip.com
Tipton:
FTDI does not support iOS.
Best Regards,
Cameron Forbes Customer Support Engineer
Future Technology Devices International Limited 7130 SW Fir Loop Tigard, OR 97223-8160 Tel: 503.726.5415 Fax: 503.547.0987
-----Original Message----- From: T.E. Klamberg Klamberg [mailto:n9mvx@yahoo.com mailto:n9mvx@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2018 8:37 AM To: US Support Subject: FDTI chip compatibility with Mac
My question has to do with the FTDI chipset and Apple computers. I have a MacBook Pro with iOS High Sierra version 10.13.2 installed. Is your chipset compatible with that iOS? Thank you.
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