Seems like you are being rather hard on a bunch of volunteers. And for a program which you can get for nothing!
On 07/31/2014 06:13 AM, Mike Morrow wrote:
Well thanks for the tongue lashing (that's a little overboard) but it was a little lecture on the "Hide Unused Fields" checkbox and how it is now going to be the default and solve all my problems.
I look at ever message in this group. I did not notice any tongue lashing.
IT DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM!!! Read on to learn why.
So I load up my data and change the option to hide unused fields. OK, all those pesky 88.5s in the sheet magically disappear. OK, great.
But then I change one of the PLs to 100.0. Oops, since there are no horizontal lines to help guide me across a sea of blankness, I got one off and meant to change the next one down. OK, just set it back off by ... uhhhh... THERE IS NO "NONE" selection. I CANNOT SET IT BACK TO OFF!! Aww nuts, now I have to either delete this memory and enter it in again or kill all my updates and reload the sheet and start again. Neither is a good thing to have to do because of a missing option in a box on a sheet without any guide rules (lines) to help me get it right in the first place.
Looks like the lack of horizontal lines is a windows only problem. Works fine in Linux. In windows if you click on the left side of the row, the whole row will be highlighted.
I get the none selection here in either windows or linux.
You see, good programming practice is good programming practice. Band-Aids are NOT GOOD PROGRAMMING PRACTICE.
I did not consider this a band aid, just a convenience item. Most manufacturer software leaves these values, even when none are used as I recall.
Not sorry about the screaming. I worked in computers for 30+ years. I was trained and also taught myself and taught classes about good programming practice. And what CHIRP is trying to do with this Band-Aid is just plain wrong. If you can set something on, you must be able to set it off, too.
As I said. If I had produced something like this and put it out to the field, I would have been fired!
So fire someone, if it makes you feel good.
Now it is time that someone, somewhere in the organization realized that there HAS to be a NONE selection to turn off a PL or any other selection that is no longer needed or was entered by mistake. And as far as I can tell, that is not possible since there is no NONE selection.
Why, it is there?
Am I wrong? If so, I apologize in advance and await another tongue lashing.
No comment. I am just a user.
Thanks to all for all the hard work but someone missed a standard design point on multiple of the columns.
Mike
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