[chirp_devel] DOT Channels
I will start by saying that I am not a ham. I bought a bunch of the Baofeng 888's that I need to make work on a few specific frequencies for summer camp and for another contract we have taken. I need to make these radios work with the Private Land Mobil Radio or "dot frequencies". I also think that this is a common enough need that it would seem to make sense for this to be a "stock configuration"
So far, Jim Unroe has been an amazing help in getting me this far, but I am not 100% sure I have it all right, especially the brown and yellow DPX frequencies. Can you guys look this over and help me get it right?
<--- Begin dot.cvs ---> Location,Name,Frequency,Duplex,Offset,Tone,rToneFreq,cToneFreq,DtcsCode,DtcsPolarity,Mode,TStep,Skip,Comment,URCALL,RPT1CALL,RPT2CALL 1,Red Dot,151.625000,,0.000000,DTCS,88.5,88.5,023,NN,NFM,5.00,,,,,, 2,Purple Dot,151.995000,,0.000000,,88.5,88.5,023,NN,NFM,5.00,,,,,, 3,Blue Dot,154.570000,,0.000000,,88.5,88.5,023,NN,FM,5.00,,,,,, 4,Green Dot,154.600000,,0.000000,,88.5,88.5,023,NN,FM,5.00,,,,,, 5,White Dot,462.575000,,0.000000,,88.5,88.5,023,NN,NFM,5.00,,,,,, 6,Black Dot,462.625000,,0.000000,,88.5,88.5,023,NN,NFM,5.00,,,,,, 7,Orange Dot,462.675000,,0.000000,,88.5,88.5,023,NN,NFM,5.00,,,,,, 8,Brown Dot,464.500000,,0.000000,,88.5,88.5,023,NN,NFM,5.00,,,,,, 9,Yellow Dot,464.550000,,0.000000,,88.5,88.5,023,NN,NFM,5.00,,,,,, 10,J Dot,467.762500,,0.000000,,88.5,88.5,023,NN,NFM,5.00,,,,,, 11,K Dot,467.812500,,0.000000,,88.5,88.5,023,NN,NFM,5.00,,,,,, 12,Silver Star,467.850000,,0.000000,,88.5,88.5,023,NN,NFM,5.00,,,,,, 13,Gold Star,467.875000,,0.000000,,88.5,88.5,023,NN,NFM,5.00,,,,,, 14,Red Star,467.900000,,0.000000,,88.5,88.5,023,NN,NFM,5.00,,,,,, 15,Blue Star,467.925000,,0.000000,,88.5,88.5,023,NN,NFM,5.00,,,,,, 16,Brown DPX,469.500000,+,5.000000,,88.5,88.5,023,NN,NFM,5.00,,,,,, 17,Yellow DPX,469.550000,+,5.000000,,88.5,88.5,023,NN,NFM,5.00,,,,,, <--- End dot.cvs --->
--- Steven Santos
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 8:50 PM, Steven Santos via chirp_devel chirp_devel@intrepid.danplanet.com wrote:
I need to make these radios work with the Private Land Mobil Radio or "dot frequencies". I also think that this is a common enough need that it would seem to make sense for this to be a "stock configuration"
I have to disagree. The old dot frequencies now require specific licenses, other than the ones that overlap with MURS, which require factory-programmed and certified radios. Providing these in a stock config is likely to mislead people into believing they are all part of the same radio service or are unlicensed.
Tom KD7LXL
Maybe, but gmrs is also licensed space and that is included as stock configs without issue.
I do the education thing. Its becoming more common for schools to ask vendors to supply their own radios , usually on whatever dot frequency the school is assigned to. May not be your problem, but it is mine, and many others, and this seems an easy fix for those in my situation.
But at the end of the day, I care mostly about making it work for me if no one else. If you can help me verify the entries are correct, Ill leave it for others to figure out if it belongs in stock or not.
On Tuesday, January 5. Tom Hayward tom@tomh.us wrote:
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 8:50 PM, Steven Santos via chirp_devel <chirp_devel@intrepid.danplanet.com javascript:;> wrote:
I need to make these radios work with the Private Land Mobil Radio or "dot frequencies". I also think
that
this is a common enough need that it would seem to make sense for this
to be
a "stock configuration"
I have to disagree. The old dot frequencies now require specific licenses, other than the ones that overlap with MURS, which require factory-programmed and certified radios. Providing these in a stock config is likely to mislead people into believing they are all part of the same radio service or are unlicensed.
Tom KD7LXL
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 11:34 PM, Steven Santos via chirp_devel chirp_devel@intrepid.danplanet.com wrote:
Maybe, but gmrs is also licensed space and that is included as stock configs without issue.
GMRS, being a common radio service with a pre-defined set of channels, makes more sense in a stock config to me because people may want to scan the whole service. The marine stock config fits the same standard. This doesn't translate well to the dot frequencies, which are more of a historical service, and now map to a mix of Part 90 and Part 95. We already have the full set of MURS channels in a stock config, it's just the Part 90 dot channels we don't include.
That's how I feel about it anyway, but I'm just one guy without the ability to merge things into Chirp.
P.S. Now that I'm reviewing this, I see that we don't set duplex to "off" in the stock configs intended for scanning. This is probably because duplex "off" support did not exist when the stock configs were added. We might consider editing the FRS/GMRS, marine, MURS, and weather stock configs so that users do not inadvertently program their radios to transmit on these services.
But at the end of the day, I care mostly about making it work for me if no one else. If you can help me verify the entries are correct, Ill leave it for others to figure out if it belongs in stock or not.
What can we compare to to qualify "correct"? Do you have programming data for one of their current working radios we can compare to? Or their license data? By the way, radio programming help is outside of the scope of the devel list.
Tom KD7LXL
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