[chirp_devel] Yaesu FT-1802 and FT-817 support?
I've got a Yaesu FT-1802 and FT-817 here I'd really like to use with Chirp. They are both cloning-cable radios, so I assume I could use the existing Yaesu cloning system once I figure our how the memory is mapped. My guess is that the FT-1802 is very similar to the FT-2800.
Where should I start? Has anyone poked at either of these radios before? I know there is existing programming software for the FT-817, but I couldn't find documentation of the memory map.
Tom KD7LXL
I've got a Yaesu FT-1802 and FT-817 here I'd really like to use with Chirp. They are both cloning-cable radios, so I assume I could use the existing Yaesu cloning system once I figure our how the memory is mapped. My guess is that the FT-1802 is very similar to the FT-2800.
If so, have you tried telling chirp you have a 2800 and seeing if it will accept the 1802 clone? Or the 7800 for that matter. It won't decode the memory correctly, but that's the easy part.
Where should I start? Has anyone poked at either of these radios before? I know there is existing programming software for the FT-817, but I couldn't find documentation of the memory map.
The 817 is a clone-type? I figured it'd be a CAT type, although maybe it will do both.
For the Yaesu radios, you just have to initiate a clone from the radio side and do something on the PC to look at what is being sent and send what the radio expects in return. I often run pre-existing software in a Windows VM using portmon to capture the traffic and then reverse-engineer from there. Most yaesus are expecting to send a block of data and get back a single ACK (0x06), so it's not too tough to fake out the radio until you figure out what needs to be done.
I think I owe Eric an empty shell stub driver for the FT-270 so maybe that would help you for yours as well.
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:01, Dan Smith dsmith@danplanet.com wrote:
I've got a Yaesu FT-1802 and FT-817 here I'd really like to use with Chirp. They are both cloning-cable radios, so I assume I could use the existing Yaesu cloning system once I figure our how the memory is mapped. My guess is that the FT-1802 is very similar to the FT-2800.
If so, have you tried telling chirp you have a 2800 and seeing if it will accept the 1802 clone? Or the 7800 for that matter. It won't decode the memory correctly, but that's the easy part.
That's a good idea. I'll see what happens!
Where should I start? Has anyone poked at either of these radios before? I know there is existing programming software for the FT-817, but I couldn't find documentation of the memory map.
The 817 is a clone-type? I figured it'd be a CAT type, although maybe it will do both.
Yes, I'm pretty sure it's a clone type. None of the CAT control softwares support setting memories in the FT-817, if that means anything. This is what the '817 manual has to say about cloning:
"You can transfer all data stored in one transceiver to another set by utilizing the handy “Cloning” feature. This requires a user-constructed cloning cable which connects the ACC jacks on the two transceivers as shown below."
Sounds the same as the rest of the Yaesu cloning radios to me.
For the Yaesu radios, you just have to initiate a clone from the radio side and do something on the PC to look at what is being sent and send what the radio expects in return. I often run pre-existing software in a Windows VM using portmon to capture the traffic and then reverse-engineer from there. Most yaesus are expecting to send a block of data and get back a single ACK (0x06), so it's not too tough to fake out the radio until you figure out what needs to be done.
My Windows VM has been collecting dust for a while. I'll try this.
I think I owe Eric an empty shell stub driver for the FT-270 so maybe that would help you for yours as well.
That would be helpful. I assume starting with the FT-2800 driver and stripping out the guts would leave me with something similar?
-- Dan Smith www.danplanet.com KK7DS
Thanks for the ideas. Now I just need a weekend.
Tom
Yes, I'm pretty sure it's a clone type. None of the CAT control softwares support setting memories in the FT-817, if that means anything. This is what the '817 manual has to say about cloning:
Yeah, interesting. I guess it's part HF radio, part VHF radio, part handheld :)
That would be helpful. I assume starting with the FT-2800 driver and stripping out the guts would leave me with something similar?
Well, yeah, although the 2800 driver was a bit uglier than normal, and definitely not typical in terms of communication (a three-byte ack and even parity ?!). I would maybe look at one of the VX-x drivers, although I think that your comms routines are more likely to look like those of the 7800 (i.e. upload() and download().
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