I remember why I didn’t like treating Yaesu presets as SPECIALS… SPECIALS do not show up in my Banks tab. Is there a setting somewhere that can force them to be listed in Banks? Is ‘my' driver (ft1d.py) not doing something right in banks? I definitely have not studied the BANK_MODEL at all, so I’ve no clue where to start.
Furthermore, is there a convenient way to keep the Banks tab from showing all memories (the list is 1000+ long even if all-but-one memories is empty, and only then do the SPECIALS show.) It’d be nice to have empty memories blank the corresponding Banks line, UNLESS that Banks line has bank selections.
______ Declan Rieb WD5EQY wd5eqy@arrl.net
I remember why I didn’t like treating Yaesu presets as SPECIALS… SPECIALS do not show up in my Banks tab. Is there a setting somewhere that can force them to be listed in Banks? Is ‘my' driver (ft1d.py) not doing something right in banks? I definitely have not studied the BANK_MODEL at all, so I’ve no clue where to start.
No, it's just that I don't think any other models have the ability to put specials in banks, so they're not shown. I can cook up a change to show them.
Furthermore, is there a convenient way to keep the Banks tab from showing all memories (the list is 1000+ long even if all-but-one memories is empty, and only then do the SPECIALS show.) It’d be nice to have empty memories blank the corresponding Banks line, UNLESS that Banks line has bank selections.
We could make the bank editor only show non-empty memories. Probably not much reason to have empty ones visible.
Maybe we already discussed this, but... is this a feature you actually want control over? Meaning, do you have a strong desire to be able to do this, or are you just thinking this is the way out of the box for errors that people have when they download a radio that has some of these channels in a bank? I'm asking because this seems (to me) to be a really oddball yaesu-ism that I can't really see myself using. Doing a bunch of work to enable it just because it exists doesn't really excite me. But, if the goal here is to implement it because it's useful to a wider audience, then fine.
--Dan
I’d welcome A way to show in the Band tab selected SPECIALS, or maybe even a new SPECIAL_SPECIALS. Not all of the SPECIALS entries for Yaesu are Bank-accesible. NOT showing empty memories in the banks would be welcome by me and I’d guess others.
We’ve not discussed it before in that way. I’m noticing many radios that can receive AM-broadcast up to 1 GHz (roughly.) AFAIK, only Yaesu places read-only broadcast memories into the radio, but I’d wager other manufacturers may do the same. Much of that functionality can be had by simply putting the appropriate data into regular memory. Several of these categories are ones CHIRP can download already (but not the SW broadcast entries) so one need not remember them without help. But considering the more than 150 broadcast addresses that Yaesu defines is equivalent to some 10% of the total memory space, it’d be nice to access them.
I don’t think “control over” is the right concept, but having tools in CHIRP that can support these “weird” radio features is useful. With China taking over the market, Yaesu may eventually fade away, but the China radios are presumably “weird” in their own ways.
WD5EQY@arrl.net
On Nov 2, 2024, at 20:09, Dan Smith via Developers developers@lists.chirpmyradio.com wrote:
I remember why I didn’t like treating Yaesu presets as SPECIALS… SPECIALS do not show up in my Banks tab. Is there a setting somewhere that can force them to be listed in Banks? Is ‘my' driver (ft1d.py) not doing something right in banks? I definitely have not studied the BANK_MODEL at all, so I’ve no clue where to start.
No, it's just that I don't think any other models have the ability to put specials in banks, so they're not shown. I can cook up a change to show them.
Furthermore, is there a convenient way to keep the Banks tab from showing all memories (the list is 1000+ long even if all-but-one memories is empty, and only then do the SPECIALS show.) It’d be nice to have empty memories blank the corresponding Banks line, UNLESS that Banks line has bank selections.
We could make the bank editor only show non-empty memories. Probably not much reason to have empty ones visible.
Maybe we already discussed this, but... is this a feature you actually want control over? Meaning, do you have a strong desire to be able to do this, or are you just thinking this is the way out of the box for errors that people have when they download a radio that has some of these channels in a bank? I'm asking because this seems (to me) to be a really oddball yaesu-ism that I can't really see myself using. Doing a bunch of work to enable it just because it exists doesn't really excite me. But, if the goal here is to implement it because it's useful to a wider audience, then fine.
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I’d welcome A way to show in the Band tab selected SPECIALS, or maybe even a new SPECIAL_SPECIALS. Not all of the SPECIALS entries for Yaesu are Bank-accesible. NOT showing empty memories in the banks would be welcome by me and I’d guess others.
I've got code for both of these I wrote last night, mostly done but I need to give it another once-over before I post. You can work on top of that.
We’ve not discussed it before in that way. I’m noticing many radios that can receive AM-broadcast up to 1 GHz (roughly.) AFAIK, only Yaesu places read-only broadcast memories into the radio, but I’d wager other manufacturers may do the same. Much of that functionality can be had by simply putting the appropriate data into regular memory. Several of these categories are ones CHIRP can download already (but not the SW broadcast entries) so one need not remember them without help. But considering the more than 150 broadcast addresses that Yaesu defines is equivalent to some 10% of the total memory space, it’d be nice to access them.
I'm not aware of anyone else that pre-programs immutable channels into their radio, with the exception of the seven US weather band channels. I've never seen a radio that lets you put those into a bank, mostly because they're already sort of in a bank of their own. I think a lot of people use banks for scanning, and it doesn't make much sense to scan the broadcast channels.
--Dan
Thanks!
It does make sense to include [one weather?] broadcast channel in amongst a scanning list of, say, local repeaters, if one can. Even more sense if one is on a SOTA trip for which CHIRP was used to build a bank with appropriate repeaters.
On Nov 3, 2024, at 08:37, Dan Smith via Developers developers@lists.chirpmyradio.com wrote:
I’d welcome A way to show in the Band tab selected SPECIALS, or maybe even a new SPECIAL_SPECIALS. Not all of the SPECIALS entries for Yaesu are Bank-accesible. NOT showing empty memories in the banks would be welcome by me and I’d guess others.
I've got code for both of these I wrote last night, mostly done but I need to give it another once-over before I post. You can work on top of that.
We’ve not discussed it before in that way. I’m noticing many radios that can receive AM-broadcast up to 1 GHz (roughly.) AFAIK, only Yaesu places read-only broadcast memories into the radio, but I’d wager other manufacturers may do the same. Much of that functionality can be had by simply putting the appropriate data into regular memory. Several of these categories are ones CHIRP can download already (but not the SW broadcast entries) so one need not remember them without help. But considering the more than 150 broadcast addresses that Yaesu defines is equivalent to some 10% of the total memory space, it’d be nice to access them.
I'm not aware of anyone else that pre-programs immutable channels into their radio, with the exception of the seven US weather band channels. I've never seen a radio that lets you put those into a bank, mostly because they're already sort of in a bank of their own. I think a lot of people use banks for scanning, and it doesn't make much sense to scan the broadcast channels.
It does make sense to include [one weather?] broadcast channel in amongst a scanning list of, say, local repeaters, if one can. Even more sense if one is on a SOTA trip for which CHIRP was used to build a bank with appropriate repeaters.
How does that make sense? Broadcast channels are always transmitting, which means as soon as you start to scan, the radio will hit the broadcast channel and stop scanning. Even if you have a time-based resume, you'll be *mostly* listening to weather and missing other stuff.
Anyway, if you see value and want to work on it then okay :)
I cc'd you on the PR to add the support. Please base your stuff on that and confirm it works for your use-case before I merge.
--Dan
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